"LegendNo6" <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, daxe--Adam crashed and died in his BGN car. I don't think he ever
> bent up a Cup car, and he only raced in it once. The engine fell out ofit,
> but he brought the car back in one piece.
I stand corrected. Now that I think about it, of course you are correct.
WC weren't at NHIS that weekend (doh!!)
> I do agree he probably needed several more years in Busch. It is pretty
> amazing how many times they had to pour the car back in the trailer rather
> than drive it on. I would have liked to seen him run the trucks a fewmore
> times as well (he did that two or three times).
Yeah, you usually need to at least distinguish yourself in a lesser series
before they try to stick you in a cup car. I think he may have been partly
the victim of his name.
~daxe
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Is NASCAR's #28 car cursed?
After Kenny Irwin's death, posters discussed the string of tragedies associated with the #28, including Davey Allison and Ernie Irvan, while noting that Fred Lorenzen, Cale Yarborough and Dale Jarrett had success in it. Others recalled Lorenzen's crashes and dismissed the curse as coincidence.
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I dont think the 28 is cursed. Just a little coincidence but cursed is
probably pushing it...8*) I hope anyway!!
Remember though that Dale Jarrett drove the #28 for a while and has had no
problems...(I must admit though, I was thinking about a "curse" on the car
yesterday)
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DTP <[email hidden]> wrote in article
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> It seems as though every driver that has been behind the wheel of the #28
car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
> Allison, Neil Bonnett, Ernie Ervin (still alive, but by rights should
have died in that testing crash years ago) and now
> Kenny Irwin. Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in his
pocket at all times, keep looking over his shoulder
> and sit with his back to the wall. It doesn't look good for him...
>
> My condolences to Kenny's friends and family, whom I'm sure loved him
very much and will miss him even more. I know I
> will...
>
> --
> See ya in the
pits,
> Deano
>
> I have a terrible memory. In fact it's so bad that I can't remember how
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
>
>
>
"Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Irwin was brought into WC too early (in my opinion). And sufferd
> from this.
Ditto Adam Petty. How many times did you see him rack up his BGN car? But
when he crashes a Cup car it's the track's fault?
~daxe
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I haven't seen anybody mention that Kyle Petty drove the #42 for years--now
I think *that's* spooky.
Jerry Morelock
"RUDDno28" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I dont think the 28 is cursed. Just a little coincidence but cursed is
> probably pushing it...8*) I hope anyway!!
"Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Fred Lorenzen
> Buddy Baker
> Cale Yaroborough
> All had very good years with #28
><snip>
Yeah, Lorenzen had two or three good years in it--and damn near got killed
in it, too. I think it was in '68 or '69.
Jerry Morelock
It goes back farther than this--Fred Lorenzen, probably the guy who first
made the number famous, had a horrific crash in the car that ultimately led
to his premature retirement. Offhand, the only longterm driver of the car I
can think of to suffer no serious damage is Cale Yarbrough.
Jerry Morelock
"DTP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It seems as though every driver that has been behind the wheel of the #28car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
> Allison, Neil Bonnett, Ernie Ervin (still alive, but by rights should havedied in that testing crash years ago) and now
> Kenny Irwin. Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in his pocketat all times, keep looking over his shoulder
> and sit with his back to the wall. It doesn't look good for him...
>
> My condolences to Kenny's friends and family, whom I'm sure loved him verymuch and will miss him even more. I know I
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
>
>
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> will... > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Deano > > I have a terrible memory. In fact it's so bad that I can't remember howIt seems as though every driver that has been behind the wheel of the #28 car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
Allison, Neil Bonnett, Ernie Ervin (still alive, but by rights should have died in that testing crash years ago) and now
Kenny Irwin. Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in his pocket at all times, keep looking over his shoulder
and sit with his back to the wall. It doesn't look good for him...
My condolences to Kenny's friends and family, whom I'm sure loved him very much and will miss him even more. I know I
will...
--
See ya in the pits,
Deano
I have a terrible memory. In fact it's so bad that I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
Don't know about cursed (although this is a terrible list of disasters) but
superstition can certainly be seen elsewhere in this sport.
In Formula 1 for many years now, the #13 has not been allocated to any car
or team because it was deemed to be unlucky.
MS
"DTP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It seems as though every driver that has been behind the wheel of the #28car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
> Allison, Neil Bonnett, Ernie Ervin (still alive, but by rights should havedied in that testing crash years ago) and now
> Kenny Irwin. Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in his pocketat all times, keep looking over his shoulder
> and sit with his back to the wall. It doesn't look good for him...
>
> My condolences to Kenny's friends and family, whom I'm sure loved him verymuch and will miss him even more. I know I
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
>
>
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> will... > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Deano > > I have a terrible memory. In fact it's so bad that I can't remember howFred Lorenzen
Buddy Baker
Cale Yaroborough
All had very good years with #28
Irwin was brought into WC too early (in my opinion). And sufferd
from this.
Allison bought a much too powerfull helicopter and had few hours
of instruction on how to handle it.
buzard
"DTP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It seems as though every driver that has been behind the wheel of the #28car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
> Allison, Neil Bonnett, Ernie Ervin (still alive, but by rights should havedied in that testing crash years ago) and now
> Kenny Irwin. Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in his pocketat all times, keep looking over his shoulder
> and sit with his back to the wall. It doesn't look good for him...
>
> My condolences to Kenny's friends and family, whom I'm sure loved him verymuch and will miss him even more. I know I
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
>
>
Quoted text (7 lines)
> will... > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Deano > > I have a terrible memory. In fact it's so bad that I can't remember how
"Lee Wee Leong" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Are u guys talking about nascar only or wat? Gerhard Berger drove this
> number for quite a number of years if my memory dun fail me/wl
>
Yeah, we're talking only about the number as it relates to NASCAR.
Jerry Morelock
"Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In 64 he flipped and cut an artery in his hand. Missed the 400.
> In 71? He was filling in for Donnie Allison in the Woods Bros
> #21 Mercury and really hit hard (forget the track) Several broken
> bones, out for a long time.
>
> buzard
The '71 crash is probably the one I'm thinking about, although I have this
mental image of a '68 or '69 Torino/Fairlane fastback going airborne.
Jerry Morelock
Not '64 for sure--but I'm pretty sure it was at Daytona. Car went airborne
and fliprolled several times. I still think it was '68 or '69, maybe '67.
I've always thought the crash was responsible for Lorenzen's retirement,
although I don't think he's ever said so.
Jerry Morelock
"Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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killed
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> 64 Daytona 400 qualifyer I think? > > buzard > > "chainbreaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:#lEdNuS6$GA.357@cpmsnbbsa07... > > > > "Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:2ZM95.424$[email hidden]... > > > Fred Lorenzen > > > Buddy Baker > > > Cale Yaroborough > > > All had very good years with #28 > > > > > <snip> > > > > Yeah, Lorenzen had two or three good years in it--and damn near gotQuoted text (7 lines)
> > in it, too. I think it was in '68 or '69. > > > > Jerry Morelock > > > > > >>Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in his pocket at all times
Yeah, but it didn't work for the rabbit.
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"daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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But
> when he crashes a Cup car it's the track's fault?
>
> ~daxe
>
>
Sorry, daxe--Adam crashed and died in his BGN car. I don't think he ever
bent up a Cup car, and he only raced in it once. The engine fell out of it,
but he brought the car back in one piece.
I do agree he probably needed several more years in Busch. It is pretty
amazing how many times they had to pour the car back in the trailer rather
than drive it on. I would have liked to seen him run the trucks a few more
times as well (he did that two or three times).
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> > "Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2ZM95.424$[email hidden]... > > > Irwin was brought into WC too early (in my opinion). And sufferd > > from this. > > Ditto Adam Petty. How many times did you see him rack up his BGN car?Neil Bonnet never drove for Yates.
"DTP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It seems as though every driver that has been behind the wheel of the #28car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
> Allison, Neil Bonnett, Ernie Ervin (still alive, but by rights should havedied in that testing crash years ago) and now
> Kenny Irwin. Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in his pocketat all times, keep looking over his shoulder
> and sit with his back to the wall. It doesn't look good for him...
>
> My condolences to Kenny's friends and family, whom I'm sure loved him verymuch and will miss him even more. I know I
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
>
>
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> will... > > -- > See ya in the pits, > Deano > > I have a terrible memory. In fact it's so bad that I can't remember how64 Daytona 400 qualifyer I think?
buzard
"chainbreaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > "Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2ZM95.424$[email hidden]... > > Fred Lorenzen > > Buddy Baker > > Cale Yaroborough > > All had very good years with #28 > > > <snip> > > Yeah, Lorenzen had two or three good years in it--and damn near got killed > in it, too. I think it was in '68 or '69. > > Jerry Morelock > >Neil Bonnet never drove for Yates.
car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
died in that testing crash years ago) and now
at all times, keep looking over his shoulder
much and will miss him even more. I know I
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.
In 64 he flipped and cut an artery in his hand. Missed the 400.
In 71? He was filling in for Donnie Allison in the Woods Bros
#21 Mercury and really hit hard (forget the track) Several broken
bones, out for a long time.
buzard
"chainbreaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Not '64 for sure--but I'm pretty sure it was at Daytona. Car wentairborne
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> and fliprolled several times. I still think it was '68 or '69, maybe '67. > I've always thought the crash was responsible for Lorenzen's retirement, > although I don't think he's ever said so. > > Jerry Morelock > > "Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2XT95.1470$[email hidden]... > > 64 Daytona 400 qualifyer I think? > > > > buzard > > > > "chainbreaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:#lEdNuS6$GA.357@cpmsnbbsa07... > > > > > > "Bob Thurman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:2ZM95.424$[email hidden]... > > > > Fred Lorenzen > > > > Buddy Baker > > > > Cale Yaroborough > > > > All had very good years with #28 > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > Yeah, Lorenzen had two or three good years in it--and damn near got > killed > > > in it, too. I think it was in '68 or '69. > > > > > > Jerry Morelock > > > > > > > > > > > >Are u guys talking about nascar only or wat? Gerhard Berger drove this
number for quite a number of years if my memory dun fail me/wl
chainbreaker <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It goes back farther than this--Fred Lorenzen, probably the guy who first
> made the number famous, had a horrific crash in the car that ultimatelyled
> to his premature retirement. Offhand, the only longterm driver of the carI
#28
> car has suffered some form of trajedy. Davey
> > Allison, Neil Bonnett, Ernie Ervin (still alive, but by rights shouldhave
> died in that testing crash years ago) and now
> > Kenny Irwin. Ricky Rudd better start carrying a rabbits foot in hispocket
> at all times, keep looking over his shoulder
> > and sit with his back to the wall. It doesn't look good for him...
> >
> > My condolences to Kenny's friends and family, whom I'm sure loved himvery
> much and will miss him even more. I know I
> > will...
> >
> > --
> > See ya in thepits,


































