Re: CPU Upgrade Advice Needed

First of all, if you are going to go against a P3 over a Athlon, go with the P3 cause they're just simply faster at the high end speeds. THough, I would recommend the new AMD Duron chip, which is like Intel's celeron. Though, motherboards will run you costly as Intel boards go for 113 dollars compared to AMD Athlon boards running darn near 200. All in all, I would recommend a P3 with an ASUS Intel motherboard for highest end performance, though DO NOT go with the latest RAMBUS technology cause it has trouble and is often benched slower the PC133 Ram. -- Sincerely, Mark F. E-Mail: [email hidden] ICQ: 2164331 AOL IM: DaRacerz SimGo, Your SimRacing Specialists!!! Web Site: http://members.xoom.com/DaRacerz/ (SimGo Got NASCAR 3 Setups, Patches, Utilites, X-Treme Manager, Plus News On Upcoming NASCAR 4) SimReview.com http://www.simreview.com (Your Only Need To Read Reviews About Any Simulation Racing Game Out There!) "Homer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Grm65.10$kt1.169@client... > I am looking to upgrade my home computer with a new CPU & motherboard. I > use the machine for GPL, N3, as well as some Office-type work from home. My > CPU budget will be in the $200-$300 range. Would I be better off with a > P3-600 (or thereabouts), an AMD K7 Athlon-750, or a Celeron? I also have a > cable modem and a Voodoo3, if it makes a difference. I would appreciate an > y advise. Thanks > > Luke > >

Try here http://www.pretestedcpus.com/ I`ve heard good reports on the overclocker newsgroups. I`m tempted to order from the UK. You know you will get a new stepping cpu and it will be guaranteed to run much higher than the quoted manufacturers clock speed. Hope this helps. Karl

I am looking to upgrade my home computer with a new CPU & motherboard. I use the machine for GPL, N3, as well as some Office-type work from home. My CPU budget will be in the $200-$300 range. Would I be better off with a P3-600 (or thereabouts), an AMD K7 Athlon-750, or a Celeron? I also have a cable modem and a Voodoo3, if it makes a difference. I would appreciate an y advise. Thanks Luke

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> I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 > overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. > > The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. > > The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140. >

Lucky sod, my Celeron 566 wont be stable at even 850, and thats at 1.85 volts. I'm going to try 1.90 today. Don't believe all the 566@850+ hype, if you're going to get one, get a guaranteed overclockable cpu. -- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

If you currently have a slot1 P2 motherboard capable of 100Mhz FSB, then I suggest going with a P3-600E flipchip. This is a socket 370 coppermine and you should be able to get it to work using the IWILL slocket2 adapter. That is what I used to upgrade from my old P2-450 (slot1) to my new P3-600E (socket 370). You can read about the slocket2 adapter here: http://www.iwillusa.com/home/home.asp -- [email hidden] "Homer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Grm65.10$kt1.169@client... > I am looking to upgrade my home computer with a new CPU & motherboard. I > use the machine for GPL, N3, as well as some Office-type work from home. My > CPU budget will be in the $200-$300 range. Would I be better off with a > P3-600 (or thereabouts), an AMD K7 Athlon-750, or a Celeron? I also have a > cable modem and a Voodoo3, if it makes a difference. I would appreciate an > y advise. Thanks > > Luke > >

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> I've heard that the success rate is about 80%, I took the chance. Mine runs > stable at 1.65 volts. I have the latest bios for the BH6. I did have major > problems with my SB Live soundcard crashing my system though. After I > upgraded the drivers everything was OK. Make sure you have all of the > latest drivers for your hardware. > > FWIW I have the IWILL slotket and a Golden Orb fan. I hope you get yours > working Olav.

Thanks. I have a BE6 rev 1 motherboard, Abit Slotket!!! and a globalwin fan. I also had that SB live problem in the beginning, luckily i found out with dejanews what was wrong.

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> Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "DLK" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 > > > overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. > > > > > > The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. > > > > > > The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140. > > > > > > > Lucky sod, my Celeron 566 wont be stable at even 850, and thats at > > 1.85 volts. I'm going to try 1.90 today. > > > > Don't believe all the 566@850+ hype, if you're going to get one, get a > > guaranteed overclockable cpu. > > > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove spam when replying > >

-- Olav K. Malmin remove spam when replying

I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140. Dave. Homer <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Grm65.10$kt1.169@client... > I am looking to upgrade my home computer with a new CPU & motherboard. I > use the machine for GPL, N3, as well as some Office-type work from home.My > CPU budget will be in the $200-$300 range. Would I be better off with a > P3-600 (or thereabouts), an AMD K7 Athlon-750, or a Celeron? I also havea > cable modem and a Voodoo3, if it makes a difference. I would appreciatean > y advise. Thanks > > Luke > >

I've heard that the success rate is about 80%, I took the chance. Mine runs stable at 1.65 volts. I have the latest bios for the BH6. I did have major problems with my SB Live soundcard crashing my system though. After I upgraded the drivers everything was OK. Make sure you have all of the latest drivers for your hardware. FWIW I have the IWILL slotket and a Golden Orb fan. I hope you get yours working Olav. Olav K. Malmin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "DLK" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 > > overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. > > > > The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. > > > > The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140. > > > > Lucky sod, my Celeron 566 wont be stable at even 850, and thats at > 1.85 volts. I'm going to try 1.90 today. > > Don't believe all the 566@850+ hype, if you're going to get one, get a > guaranteed overclockable cpu. > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove spam when replying

What speeds are you talking about? The Athlon beats the P3 hands down according to every single article I've read, and that's why I chose it, especially for racings sims, which require a killer FPU to get the required high framerates. Not to be too cynical, but I feel that there's always been an unfairly strong bias towards the Intel-based solutions irrespective of actual performance benchmarks, probably because of the extent to which they've flooded the market. If you've bought an Intel chip, you're likely to be all for it. In any case, unless you're only interested in framerate reports for video cards, your best bet is to read technical reviews from respected sites like Anandtech and Tom's Hardware instead of this newsgroup, with all due respect.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:02:03 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>That's the exact upgrade I am fixing to do for my BH6, darn celeron 300a has >been running so rock solid at 464 for the past year and a half, I kind of >hate to give it up - I figure it's time though, and can't beat the price. > >"DLK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:yYo65.146$[email hidden]... >> I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 >> overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. >> >> The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. >> >> The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140.

Me, three. :) What vendors did/will you guys get your CPU & accessories from? I assume that's the 566a/Coppermine/0.18micron Celeron? Any good places to look for overclocking info on this combo? Thanks a bunch! "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Hey, Intel wins out hands down cause AMD sucks! Thought I would throw in my one intelligent post for the day. :) -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Krakus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Chw65.78607$[email hidden]... > What speeds are you talking about? The Athlon beats the P3 hands down > according to every single article I've read, and that's why I chose it, > especially for racings sims, which require a killer FPU to get the required > high framerates. Not to be too cynical, but I feel that there's always been > an unfairly strong bias towards the Intel-based solutions irrespective of > actual performance benchmarks, probably because of the extent to which > they've flooded the market. If you've bought an Intel chip, you're likely to > be all for it. In any case, unless you're only interested in framerate > reports for video cards, your best bet is to read technical reviews from > respected sites like Anandtech and Tom's Hardware instead of this newsgroup, > with all due respect. > >

That's the exact upgrade I am fixing to do for my BH6, darn celeron 300a has been running so rock solid at 464 for the past year and a half, I kind of hate to give it up - I figure it's time though, and can't beat the price. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "DLK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yYo65.146$[email hidden]... > I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 > overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. > > The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. > > The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140. > > Dave. > > Homer <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Grm65.10$kt1.169@client... > > I am looking to upgrade my home computer with a new CPU & motherboard. I > > use the machine for GPL, N3, as well as some Office-type work from home. > My > > CPU budget will be in the $200-$300 range. Would I be better off with a > > P3-600 (or thereabouts), an AMD K7 Athlon-750, or a Celeron? I also have > a > > cable modem and a Voodoo3, if it makes a difference. I would appreciate > an > > y advise. Thanks > > > > Luke > > > > > >

Coppermine's are quicker that the Athlon's hands down...and they're cheaper too! When the new AMD's are out there to easily the AMD will be quicker, and then when the new Intel is out the Intel will be quicker... http://www.gamecenter.com/Hardware/Roundup/Athloncop/ As far as your graphics go (Maimum PC hs similar differences with the GHz processors too!): http://www.gamecenter.com/Hardware/Roundup/Athloncop/ss04.html Jon "Krakus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Chw65.78607$[email hidden]... > What speeds are you talking about? The Athlon beats the P3 hands down > according to every single article I've read, and that's why I chose it, > especially for racings sims, which require a killer FPU to get therequired > high framerates. Not to be too cynical, but I feel that there's alwaysbeen > an unfairly strong bias towards the Intel-based solutions irrespective of > actual performance benchmarks, probably because of the extent to which > they've flooded the market. If you've bought an Intel chip, you're likelyto > be all for it. In any case, unless you're only interested in framerate > reports for video cards, your best bet is to read technical reviews from > respected sites like Anandtech and Tom's Hardware instead of thisnewsgroup, > with all due respect. > >

http://www.atacom.com/ Would be a good source for the celeron's for overclocking. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Jeff Vincent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:02:03 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >That's the exact upgrade I am fixing to do for my BH6, darn celeron 300a has > >been running so rock solid at 464 for the past year and a half, I kind of > >hate to give it up - I figure it's time though, and can't beat the price. > > > >"DLK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:yYo65.146$[email hidden]... > >> I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 > >> overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. > >> > >> The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. > >> > >> The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140. > > Me, three. :) > > What vendors did/will you guys get your CPU & accessories from? I > assume that's the 566a/Coppermine/0.18micron Celeron? Any good places > to look for overclocking info on this combo? Thanks a bunch! > > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

This is where I got my 566 celeron, IWILL and Golden Orb. They had the best prices and I was very pleased with them. http://www.allstarshop.com I used the same overclocking procedure I used to overclock my 300A. Dave. Jeff Vincent <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:02:03 GMT, "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >That's the exact upgrade I am fixing to do for my BH6, darn celeron 300ahas

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> >been running so rock solid at 464 for the past year and a half, I kind of > >hate to give it up - I figure it's time though, and can't beat the price. > > > >"DLK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:yYo65.146$[email hidden]... > >> I just upgraded my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 with a Celeron 566 > >> overclocked to 875. I have a abit BH6 motherboard V1. > >> > >> The Wintune benchmark shows almost a 2X CPU performance increase. > >> > >> The total cost for CPU, Fan, Slotket and shipping was $140. > > Me, three. :) > > What vendors did/will you guys get your CPU & accessories from? I > assume that's the 566a/Coppermine/0.18micron Celeron? Any good places > to look for overclocking info on this combo? Thanks a bunch! > > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark