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GPL D3D on Voodoo2, does it work?

10 posts by 5 people · 23 Jun 2000 22:17 UTC - 27 Jun 2000

Thomas Heineman 23 Jun 2000 22:17 UTC#260635
Have anyone gotten this to work? I can load everything and the mouse works fine (although it is invisible) on the left hand menu, but when clicking on the green button nothing happens... I�d love to get that 60% speed improvment.... Thomas
Sjon Stigter 23 Jun 2000 22:29 UTC#260689
> I�d love to get that 60% speed improvment.... You won't get any improvement on a Voodoo2 with the D3d patch, it only makes it go slower... the D3d patch is for TNT/GeForce cards...
Kevin Gavitt 24 Jun 2000 20:05 UTC#260492
"Thomas Heineman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8j0nlj$30n4$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Have anyone gotten this to work? > > I can load everything and the mouse works fine (although > it is invisible) on the left hand menu, but when clicking on > the green button nothing happens... > > I�d love to get that 60% speed improvment.... > > Thomas > >
The D3D patch is for use on primary video cards that do not support Glide. The V2 is not a primary video card and ONLY supports Glide. It would work just fine on a V3 which is a primary video card, but there wouldn't be any point because Glide works just fine. GPL was written optimized for Glide, which was the primier 3D API of the time. D3D is Microsoft's own propriatary 3D API, in competition with both Glide and OpenGL. It is generally considered inferior to the other two by games programers but has this one distinct advantage, If your video card is supported by Windows it will ALWAYS work in a game that supports it. Thus the REAL importance of the D3D patch is that GPL will remain playable as long as Windows, as we know it, supports your video card, no matter who makes it. By the way, the 60% frame rate increase is only compared the the OpenGL patch with one of the modern OpenGL based cards. What this patch means for you, specifically, is that when you upgrade from the V2 you now have a wider choice of acceptable cards to choose from and maintain your ability to play GPL in an accetpable manner.
Thomas Heineman 24 Jun 2000 21:08 UTC#260508
Thanks Kevin, for that insightful post! That cleared up things for me. :) Thomas Kevin Gavitt <[email hidden]> skrev i diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:xw855.5990$[email hidden]... > What this patch means for you, specifically, is that when you upgrade from > the V2 you now have a wider choice of acceptable cards to choose from and > maintain your ability to play GPL in an accetpable manner.
Kevin Gavitt 25 Jun 2000 13:26 UTC#260324
"Thomas Heineman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8j380f$220l$[email hidden]... > Thanks Kevin, for that insightful post! > That cleared up things for me. :) > > Thomas You are quite welcome. When I'm not intentionally trying to be a smart ass I try for insightful. Of course, sometimes it just comes out inciteful. Go figure. :)
Jay J 25 Jun 2000 14:31 UTC#260348
>>The D3D patch is for use on primary video cards that do not support Glide.The V2 is not a primary video card and ONLY supports Glide. NOT TRUE, simply not true! That said.... I'd agree you'll get much better preformance with GLIDE on your Voodoo II than trying to run D3D with it, at least that's that case with me.
Kevin Gavitt 26 Jun 2000 10:56 UTC#260219
"Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iJo55.411$[email hidden]... > >>The D3D patch is for use on primary video cards that do not supportGlide.
Quoted text (9 lines)> The V2 is not a primary video card and ONLY supports Glide. > > NOT TRUE, simply not true! > > That said.... I'd agree you'll get much better preformance with GLIDE on > your Voodoo II than trying to run D3D with it, at least that's that case > with me. > >
Which part of my statement do you believe to be not true?
Ian P 26 Jun 2000 14:22 UTC#260118
The V2 isn't a primary card but it does support D3D, though it'll only run in full screen mode. I used to use a few D3D games with mine before I changed to a Voodoo3, the ATI Expert wasn't much use for games ;) -- Ian P <email address invalid due to spam Kevin Gavitt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CFG55.8676$[email hidden]... > > "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:iJo55.411$[email hidden]... > > >>The D3D patch is for use on primary video cards that do not support > Glide. > > The V2 is not a primary video card and ONLY supports Glide. > > > > NOT TRUE, simply not true! > > > > That said.... I'd agree you'll get much better preformance with GLIDE on > > your Voodoo II than trying to run D3D with it, at least that's that case > > with me. > > > > > > Which part of my statement do you believe to be not true? > > >

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