GP3: wait for the patch before buying

Hi Seems like we best wait for the patch to come out before buying the game.. there has been recent cases of game developer that refuses to do a patch after they found the game not up to par in terms of sales so they "blame the sale" for not doing the patch. I thought if they had done the patch the game should have sold better -- Thanks and regards Leong SINGAPORE Email: [email hidden]

Eric Cote wrote:

Quoted text (8 lines)

> > Leong, I have to remind you that GP2 never had any patch... you could > wait a long time before seeing one for GP3 > > Eric > > http://www.simracingmag.com >

Hasn't Hasbro promised us at least 3 complete games in the next years?? -- Greetings :)RuuD� +------------------------------+ mailto:[email hidden]

In article <[email hidden]>, "* Leong" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted text (14 lines)

>Hi > >Seems like we best wait for the patch >to come out before buying the game.. >there has been recent cases of game >developer that refuses to do a patch >after they found the game not up to par >in terms of sales >so they "blame the sale" for not >doing the patch. > >I thought if they had done the patch >the game should have sold better

We're still waiting for the Gp2 patch Z. Please remove my_pants when replying.

Buy it or not, there will be NO patch.

So if we all will wait for the patch, the patch will never be released because nobody bought it... Andre On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:13:50 +0800, "* Leong" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted text (30 lines)

>Hi > >Seems like we best wait for the patch >to come out before buying the game.. > >there has been recent cases of game >developer that refuses to do a patch >after they found the game not up to par >in terms of sales >so they "blame the sale" for not >doing the patch. > >I thought if they had done the patch >the game should have sold better > > > > >-- > >Thanks and regards >Leong >SINGAPORE Email: [email hidden] > > > > > > >

Waiting for the patch? How typical for these times that many want things they just don't NEED anyway. JoH On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:32:49 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

Quoted text (39 lines)

>So if we all will wait for the patch, the patch will never be released >because nobody bought it... > >Andre > >On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:13:50 +0800, "* Leong" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Hi >> >>Seems like we best wait for the patch >>to come out before buying the game.. >> >>there has been recent cases of game >>developer that refuses to do a patch >>after they found the game not up to par >>in terms of sales >>so they "blame the sale" for not >>doing the patch. >> >>I thought if they had done the patch >>the game should have sold better >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Thanks and regards >>Leong >>SINGAPORE Email: [email hidden] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

* Leong <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted text (14 lines)

> Hi > > Seems like we best wait for the patch > to come out before buying the game.. > > there has been recent cases of game > developer that refuses to do a patch > after they found the game not up to par > in terms of sales > so they "blame the sale" for not > doing the patch. > > I thought if they had done the patch > the game should have sold better

Buy it or not, there will be NO patch.

Leong, I have to remind you that GP2 never had any patch... you could wait a long time before seeing one for GP3 Eric http://www.simracingmag.com * Leong wrote:

Quoted text (20 lines)

> Hi > > Seems like we best wait for the patch > to come out before buying the game.. > > there has been recent cases of game > developer that refuses to do a patch > after they found the game not up to par > in terms of sales > so they "blame the sale" for not > doing the patch. > > I thought if they had done the patch > the game should have sold better > > -- > > Thanks and regards > Leong > SINGAPORE Email: [email hidden]

Why does GP2 need a patch? What is wrong with it? Seems like the lack of a patch didn't affect sales or the popularity of GP2 which is still enjoyed by many even 4 years after it's release. Why don't you think before you type in future? Chris [email hidden] (Zonky) wrote:

Quoted text (10 lines)

>In article <[email hidden]>, "* Leong" > > >We're still waiting for the Gp2 patch > >Z. > > >Please remove my_pants when replying. > >

Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

>Seems like we best wait for the patch >to come out before buying the game.. So we should not get GP3, and just wait for GP4? :-)) -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

Quoted text (7 lines)

>Why does GP2 need a patch? What is wrong with it? Seems like >the lack of a patch didn't affect sales or the popularity of GP2 >which is still enjoyed by many even 4 years after it's release. > >Why don't you think before you type in future? > >Chris

Um, i'd like a patch to prevent the replays that *change* when you play them back over and over. ? How about a decent optimisation of Monaco that allowd you to play this circuit at all? Think before you type, idddijot! Z. Please remove my_pants when replying.

Patch? Mr. Perfect Crammond does patches? heh heh, I wouldn't hold my breath. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "* Leong" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi > > Seems like we best wait for the patch > to come out before buying the game.. > > there has been recent cases of game > developer that refuses to do a patch > after they found the game not up to par > in terms of sales > so they "blame the sale" for not > doing the patch. > > I thought if they had done the patch > the game should have sold better > > > > > -- > > Thanks and regards > Leong > SINGAPORE Email: [email hidden] > > > > > > >

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:45:54 -0700, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: >Why does GP2 need a patch? What is wrong with it? Seems like >the lack of a patch didn't affect sales or the popularity of GP2 >which is still enjoyed by many even 4 years after it's release. Just because a game is "good", doesn't mean a patch wouldn't make it even better. GPL didn't need a patch.

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:30:58 GMT, [email hidden] (Toni Lassila) wrote:

Quoted text (8 lines)

>On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:45:54 -0700, Chris Bloom ><[email hidden]> wrote: >>Why does GP2 need a patch? What is wrong with it? Seems like >>the lack of a patch didn't affect sales or the popularity of GP2 >>which is still enjoyed by many even 4 years after it's release. > >Just because a game is "good", doesn't mean a patch wouldn't make it >even better. GPL didn't need a patch.

You are not talking about a patch but about an upgrade. A patch is meant to fix bugs. JoH

Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:[email hidden]... > > >Seems like we best wait for the patch > >to come out before buying the game.. > > So we should not get GP3, and just wait for GP4? :-)) > No dont waite for GP4 better be sure and waite for GP5 or GP6 or GP7 or...... Peter

Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have never been aware of any problems with the replays except >ones which have been saved on a differant computer or/and on one >of the third party tracks. Replays don't affect gameplay anyway >and I really find it hard to understand why people get so >excited about them. Sometimes, if you pause a race to replay a nice action that you made, the replay shows something completely different.(a crash for example) It was the impossible to go back to "what really happened", and you were screwed. Also happened to some replays. Driving a perfect hotlap, and the next day the replay shows your car leaving the track (no, nothing edited!). It's not as if happened all the time, though. Just now and then. JoH ------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- --------------------------------------------------------------

I have never been aware of any problems with the replays except ones which have been saved on a differant computer or/and on one of the third party tracks. Replays don't affect gameplay anyway and I really find it hard to understand why people get so excited about them. As for your complaint about Monaco, I don't quite understand what you mean. I have had many enjoyable races round the streets on GP2 and I have never had any problems. I can't really help you until you provide more information on that one. Chris [email hidden] (Zonky) wrote: > > >Um, i'd like a patch to prevent the replays that *change* whenyou play them >back over and over. ? > >How about a decent optimisation of Monaco that allowd you toplay this circuit

Quoted text (10 lines)

>at all? > >Think before you type, idddijot! > >Z. > > >Please remove my_pants when replying. > >

Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:36:16 GMT, [email hidden] (Jo Helsen) wrote: >>Just because a game is "good", doesn't mean a patch wouldn't make it >>even better. GPL didn't need a patch. >You are not talking about a patch but about an upgrade. A patch is >meant to fix bugs. Nope. A patch might just as well add missing extra features that should've been there and still be called a patch.

In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted text (13 lines)

>I have never been aware of any problems with the replays except >ones which have been saved on a differant computer or/and on one >of the third party tracks. Replays don't affect gameplay anyway >and I really find it hard to understand why people get so >excited about them. > >As for your complaint about Monaco, I don't quite understand >what you mean. I have had many enjoyable races round the >streets on GP2 and I have never had any problems. I can't >really help you until you provide more information on that one. > >Chris >

The replay bug happens on the original tracks. As for Monaco, you only have to play all the original tracks to know that the image densiity in Monaco far exceeded any other track. The rendering was all too complex. (try it on a P166/200). Z.

Quoted text (25 lines)

>[email hidden] (Zonky) wrote: >> >> >>Um, i'd like a patch to prevent the replays that *change* when >you play them >>back over and over. ? >> >>How about a decent optimisation of Monaco that allowd you to >play this circuit >>at all? >> >>Think before you type, idddijot! >> >>Z. >> >> >>Please remove my_pants when replying. >> >> > > >Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. >Up to 100 minutes free! >http://www.keen.com >

Please remove my_pants when replying.

[email hidden] (Toni Lassila) wrote:

Quoted text (9 lines)

>On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:36:16 GMT, [email hidden] (Jo Helsen) >wrote: >>>Just because a game is "good", doesn't mean a patch wouldn't make it >>>even better. GPL didn't need a patch. >>You are not talking about a patch but about an upgrade. A patch is >>meant to fix bugs. > >Nope. A patch might just as well add missing extra features that >should've been there and still be called a patch.

Who says they "should have been there"? You can ALWAYS come up with so called "missing features", since the development of a game has to stop somewhere. Heck, they would never be able to release a new game that way. All they could do was releasing "patches"! JoH ------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- --------------------------------------------------------------

I had that happen on third party tracks but never on the original ones. Chris Jo Helsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Sometimes, if you pause a race to replay a nice action that youmade, the replay >shows something completely different.(a crash for example) Itwas the impossible >to go back to "what really happened", and you were screwed. > >Also happened to some replays. Driving a perfect hotlap, andthe next day the

Quoted text (10 lines)

>replay shows your car leaving the track (no, nothing edited!). > >It's not as if happened all the time, though. Just now and then. > >JoH > >------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 -------- >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >

Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

Ruud <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted text (10 lines)

> Eric Cote wrote: > > > > Leong, I have to remind you that GP2 never had any patch... you could > > wait a long time before seeing one for GP3 > > > > Eric > > > > http://www.simracingmag.com > > > Hasn't Hasbro promised us at least 3 complete games in the next years??

Well 2 anyway, GP4 should be out soon but thats a full game not a patch.

looks that way........ Too bad. I note earlier there was an interview with Geff and in that interview, he sounded very defensive about GP3 Now we know why...... sigh... Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted text (24 lines)

> The patch is called Gp4 > > * Leong wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Seems like we best wait for the patch > > to come out before buying the game.. > > > > there has been recent cases of game > > developer that refuses to do a patch > > after they found the game not up to par > > in terms of sales > > so they "blame the sale" for not > > doing the patch. > > > > I thought if they had done the patch > > the game should have sold better > > > > -- > > > > Thanks and regards > > Leong > > SINGAPORE Email: [email hidden]

The patch is called Gp4 * Leong wrote:

Quoted text (21 lines)

> > Hi > > Seems like we best wait for the patch > to come out before buying the game.. > > there has been recent cases of game > developer that refuses to do a patch > after they found the game not up to par > in terms of sales > so they "blame the sale" for not > doing the patch. > > I thought if they had done the patch > the game should have sold better > > -- > > Thanks and regards > Leong > SINGAPORE Email: [email hidden]