Re: anyone tried F1 2000 on PIII 800 or higher ?

What a great game, just turn off 1/2 the graphics and it will run great...8*(

I run 1024x768 mirrors on all set to max etc. great...8*(

Almost every car sim is like that. David G Fisher great...8*(

My brother recently bought a PIII 677, tnt2 card, and f1 2000 still doesnt run flued with all graphics and all cars. Does anyone have experience with a faster processor ? Is there any processor or 3d card out there that can handle the game with constant high framerates ? please reply by email Thanx and kind regards R.Denessen E-MAIL: [email hidden]

I run it on my Athlon-800 with a GeForce-2 and it still chokes! Very slow at the start of the race. Sal V. "RD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> My brother recently bought a PIII 677, tnt2 card, and f1 2000 still doesnt > run flued with all > graphics and all cars. > > Does anyone have experience with a faster processor ? > > Is there any processor or 3d card out there that can handle the game with > constant high framerates ? > > please reply by email > > Thanx and kind regards > > R.Denessen > > E-MAIL: [email hidden] > >

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:38:15 GMT, "Sal V." <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >I run it on my Athlon-800 with a GeForce-2 and it still chokes! Very slow at >the start of the race. > >Sal V. Did you turn "other" cars to low detail? I have a P3 800@900mhz with a Geforce2. I'm running at 1024x768, with low detail "other cars", mirrors on just showing cars and track, no pit objects, no extraneous objects, view distance 125% etc. and it is quite smooth for me. There is a very slight drop in frame rate at the start of a race, but otherwise I've got F1 2000 running very nicely and looking good. Turning off smoke, particles and other cars to low detail makes the biggest frame rate difference I have found. Just turn down some options and you should get a good consistent frame rate. If not then I guess the P3 is the way to go with this game. Full detail settings and high res are just no possible in this game on todays cpu's. Maybe a 1.5ghz Williamette will do it. :-) -- Nos

F1 2000 runs like a dog on TNT/ GeForce systems... on my P3-600 mhz with Voodoo3 it's really smooth.... Nos <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:38:15 GMT, "Sal V." <[email hidden]> thus > spoke: > > >I run it on my Athlon-800 with a GeForce-2 and it still chokes! Very slowat

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> >the start of the race. > > > >Sal V. > > Did you turn "other" cars to low detail? I have a P3 800@900mhz with a > Geforce2. I'm running at 1024x768, with low detail "other cars", > mirrors on just showing cars and track, no pit objects, no extraneous > objects, view distance 125% etc. and it is quite smooth for me. There > is a very slight drop in frame rate at the start of a race, but > otherwise I've got F1 2000 running very nicely and looking good. > Turning off smoke, particles and other cars to low detail makes the > biggest frame rate difference I have found. Just turn down some > options and you should get a good consistent frame rate. If not then I > guess the P3 is the way to go with this game. Full detail settings and > high res are just no possible in this game on todays cpu's. Maybe a > 1.5ghz Williamette will do it. :-) > > > -- > Nos

I'm running it on an Athlon 1Ghz, TNT2 card, and ultra-wide SCSI hard disks. As you would expect, it runs like a banshee. 19 cars at the start of GPL with all options on, with the in-car view seems to be the only thing that can drag down frame rates a little(at least until Papy and NVIDIA get all the openGL driver stuff straightend out). I guess the only problem I'm having with F1 2000 is I can't really get into it. I want to, but it just doesn't do anything for me. Dave "RD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> My brother recently bought a PIII 677, tnt2 card, and f1 2000 still doesnt > run flued with all > graphics and all cars. > > Does anyone have experience with a faster processor ? > > Is there any processor or 3d card out there that can handle the game with > constant high framerates ? > > please reply by email > > Thanx and kind regards > > R.Denessen > > E-MAIL: [email hidden] > >

I run 1024x768 mirrors on all set to max etc. RUDDno28 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What a great game, just turn off 1/2 the graphics and it will rungreat...8*(

Like GPL when that was released you mean ? ;) -- Ian P <email address invalid due to spam RUDDno28 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What a great game, just turn off 1/2 the graphics and it will run great...8*(

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:30:25 +0200, "Sjon Stigter" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >F1 2000 runs like a dog on TNT/ GeForce systems... on my P3-600 mhz with >Voodoo3 it's really smooth.... Really? I just switched form a Voodoo3 to a Geforce2 and I can assure you it runs better on the Geforce2. Was able to up my res from 800x600 > 1024x768 and turn up the details a notch or two. -- Nos

On 20 Jun 2000 18:53:59 GMT, [email hidden] (RUDDno28) thus spoke: >What a great game, just turn off 1/2 the graphics and it will run great...8*( Did I say half? Either get a machine that can run it or stop whining. -- Nos

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:48:37 -0400, "LegendNo6" <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke:

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>I'm running it on an Athlon 1Ghz, TNT2 card, and ultra-wide SCSI hard disks. >As you would expect, it runs like a banshee. 19 cars at the start of GPL >with all options on, with the in-car view seems to be the only thing that >can drag down frame rates a little(at least until Papy and NVIDIA get all >the openGL driver stuff straightend out). I guess the only problem I'm >having with F1 2000 is I can't really get into it. I want to, but it just >doesn't do anything for me. > >Dave

I'm running GPL with 3.68 nvOpengl.dll and it is never below 36fps with 19 cars and 1024x768 res. -- Nos

Almost every car sim is like that. David G Fisher "RUDDno28" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What a great game, just turn off 1/2 the graphics and it will rungreat...8*(

I've put the nvopengl.dll 3.68 in the GPL directory, used enditall to end all processes, set the buffer flipping mode to block transfer (for the flickering mirrors). Anything I'm missing, Nos? It's killing me trying to figure out what is keeping the FR down. Every other game screams (I've got Q3 up in the 80-90 fps), so I am sure it is a setting I am missing with GPL which will dip to about 30fps at the start of a race. Is there a tweak I've overlooked? Thanks, Dave "Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:48:37 -0400, "LegendNo6" > <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: > > >I'm running it on an Athlon 1Ghz, TNT2 card, and ultra-wide SCSI harddisks.

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> >As you would expect, it runs like a banshee. 19 cars at the start of GPL > >with all options on, with the in-car view seems to be the only thing that > >can drag down frame rates a little(at least until Papy and NVIDIA get all > >the openGL driver stuff straightend out). I guess the only problem I'm > >having with F1 2000 is I can't really get into it. I want to, but it just > >doesn't do anything for me. > > > >Dave > > I'm running GPL with 3.68 nvOpengl.dll and it is never below 36fps > with 19 cars and 1024x768 res. > > -- > Nos

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:02:58 -0400, "David McCarson" <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke:

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>I've put the nvopengl.dll 3.68 in the GPL directory, used enditall to end >all processes, set the buffer flipping mode to block transfer (for the >flickering mirrors). Anything I'm missing, Nos? It's killing me trying to >figure out what is keeping the FR down. Every other game screams (I've got >Q3 up in the 80-90 fps), so I am sure it is a setting I am missing with GPL >which will dip to about 30fps at the start of a race. Is there a tweak I've >overlooked?

I had to turn sidebanding off when I play GPL or it locks up. LOD slider in the middle. Try turning mip mapping to fastest setting or auto. Get a P3 800@900. :-) -- Nos

Thanks--I've got it to 33 at the start, then a solid 36 once we get moving. I have a Gateway machine, and I'm starting to question the TNT2 in it. Did GW give me a TNT2 Lite? nVidia's drivers won't load, and the web page says its a Creative Labs, but their drivers don't load either. Anyone know if they put in some proprietary stuff on a TNT2? Even their drivers are labeled as "Gateway - English". Hmmm. No matter, I changed the EIDE drives to SCSI and will be changing the video card to the Voodoo 5 6k when it comes out. Now if we could just get the Act Labs shifter support in GPL, I may never leave the house again... Thanks again, Dave "Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:02:58 -0400, "David McCarson" > <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: > > >I've put the nvopengl.dll 3.68 in the GPL directory, used enditall to end > >all processes, set the buffer flipping mode to block transfer (for the > >flickering mirrors). Anything I'm missing, Nos? It's killing me tryingto > >figure out what is keeping the FR down. Every other game screams (I'vegot > >Q3 up in the 80-90 fps), so I am sure it is a setting I am missing withGPL > >which will dip to about 30fps at the start of a race. Is there a tweakI've

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> >overlooked? > > I had to turn sidebanding off when I play GPL or it locks up. LOD > slider in the middle. Try turning mip mapping to fastest setting or > auto. Get a P3 800@900. :-) > > -- > Nos

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:11:49 -0400, "David McCarson" <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: >Thanks--I've got it to 33 at the start, then a solid 36 once we get moving. >I have a Gateway machine, and I'm starting to question the TNT2 in it. I wouldn't complain about those numbers, it's good enough considering the max is 36. I tried FSAA and it was too slow for me (25 or so). Looks like the Gateway TNT2 card may be proprietary in some way. Nvidia's reference drivers should work on any Nvidia chipset card. I expect Gateway is not too prompt about driver updates either so I would demand that they exchange the card for one that is not proprietary so that you can get proper driver updates. -- Nos

I borrowed a Creative Labs TNT2 card from a buddy of mine, and we put in in with NVidia's reference drivers, and 3.68 in the gpl directory. Guess what? Frame rate doesn't drop below 36. The Gateway site has drivers, but (as you said) they are a little behind. All of their drivers load fine, (I tried 3 of them). I tried several nVidia's reference drivers, and none of them work. I REALLY question the Gateway card now. Dave "Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:11:49 -0400, "David McCarson" > <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: > > >Thanks--I've got it to 33 at the start, then a solid 36 once we getmoving.

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> >I have a Gateway machine, and I'm starting to question the TNT2 in it. > > I wouldn't complain about those numbers, it's good enough considering > the max is 36. I tried FSAA and it was too slow for me (25 or so). > Looks like the Gateway TNT2 card may be proprietary in some way. > Nvidia's reference drivers should work on any Nvidia chipset card. > I expect Gateway is not too prompt about driver updates either so I > would demand that they exchange the card for one that is not > proprietary so that you can get proper driver updates. > -- > Nos

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:37:49 -0400, "LegendNo6" <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke:

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>I borrowed a Creative Labs TNT2 card from a buddy of mine, and we put in in >with NVidia's reference drivers, and 3.68 in the gpl directory. Guess what? >Frame rate doesn't drop below 36. The Gateway site has drivers, but (as you >said) they are a little behind. All of their drivers load fine, (I tried 3 >of them). I tried several nVidia's reference drivers, and none of them >work. I REALLY question the Gateway card now. > >Dave

Yep, give them a call and tell them you are unhappy with the vid card. Probably tell you tough luck, but they may do an exchange. Worth a shot anyway. -- Nos

Use the tool at www.fraps.com. Jason. Steve Marsh wrote: > How do you know the frame rates? I can't find the option that switches this > on. > > Steve > -- Jason Monds http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL) http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Traded a guy at work even for a Voodoo 5 5500. I almost feel guilty--ok, maybe not :-) In all fairness, he is doing some development work with openGL. So in the long run, he may have the last laugh. "Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:37:49 -0400, "LegendNo6" > <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: > > >I borrowed a Creative Labs TNT2 card from a buddy of mine, and we put inin > >with NVidia's reference drivers, and 3.68 in the gpl directory. Guesswhat? > >Frame rate doesn't drop below 36. The Gateway site has drivers, but (asyou > >said) they are a little behind. All of their drivers load fine, (I tried3

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> >of them). I tried several nVidia's reference drivers, and none of them > >work. I REALLY question the Gateway card now. > > > >Dave > > Yep, give them a call and tell them you are unhappy with the vid card. > Probably tell you tough luck, but they may do an exchange. Worth a > shot anyway. > -- > Nos

www.fraps.com run it and minimize it before starting F1 2000 "Steve Marsh" <[email hidden]> wrote: >How do you know the frame rates? I can't find the option thatswitches this >on. Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:23:59 -0400, "LegendNo6" <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: >Traded a guy at work even for a Voodoo 5 5500. I almost feel guilty--ok, >maybe not :-) > >In all fairness, he is doing some development work with openGL. So in the >long run, he may have the last laugh. A TNT2 for a Voodoo5?! What a deal. Wish I had such generous friends. -- Nos

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:50:10 GMT, "Steve Marsh" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >How do you know the frame rates? I can't find the option that switches this >on. > >Steve I was talking about Grand Prix Legends and not F1 2000, which has a built in FPS counter. Alt+F. -- Nos

He's one of those that are really, really bright--just no common sense. I think we all know somebody like that.. Anyway, the TNT2 is probably a better platform for OpenGL development. He comes out ahead on what he wants to do, and I get GPL in 1024x768 with the detail all the way to the right at 36fps. We both win! "Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:23:59 -0400, "LegendNo6" > <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: > > >Traded a guy at work even for a Voodoo 5 5500. I almost feel guilty--ok, > >maybe not :-) > > > >In all fairness, he is doing some development work with openGL. So in

the > >long run, he may have the last laugh. > > A TNT2 for a Voodoo5?! What a deal. Wish I had such generous friends. > -- > Nos

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:45:16 +0200, amos-opus <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >erm..GPL doesn't go past 36 Fps...... Did I say it was above 36fps? No, I said it is never below 36fps. -- Nos

erm..GPL doesn't go past 36 Fps...... David McCarson wrote:

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> > I've put the nvopengl.dll 3.68 in the GPL directory, used enditall to end > all processes, set the buffer flipping mode to block transfer (for the > flickering mirrors). Anything I'm missing, Nos? It's killing me trying to > figure out what is keeping the FR down. Every other game screams (I've got > Q3 up in the 80-90 fps), so I am sure it is a setting I am missing with GPL > which will dip to about 30fps at the start of a race. Is there a tweak I've > overlooked? > > Thanks, > Dave > > "Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:48:37 -0400, "LegendNo6" > > <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: > > > > >I'm running it on an Athlon 1Ghz, TNT2 card, and ultra-wide SCSI hard > disks. > > >As you would expect, it runs like a banshee. 19 cars at the start of GPL > > >with all options on, with the in-car view seems to be the only thing that > > >can drag down frame rates a little(at least until Papy and NVIDIA get all > > >the openGL driver stuff straightend out). I guess the only problem I'm > > >having with F1 2000 is I can't really get into it. I want to, but it just > > >doesn't do anything for me. > > > > > >Dave > > > > I'm running GPL with 3.68 nvOpengl.dll and it is never below 36fps > > with 19 cars and 1024x768 res. > > > > -- > > Nos

How do you know the frame rates? I can't find the option that switches this on. Steve David McCarson <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> wrote in message news:x8X35.93$[email hidden]... > Thanks--I've got it to 33 at the start, then a solid 36 once we getmoving. > I have a Gateway machine, and I'm starting to question the TNT2 in it.Did > GW give me a TNT2 Lite? nVidia's drivers won't load, and the web pagesays > its a Creative Labs, but their drivers don't load either. Anyone know if > they put in some proprietary stuff on a TNT2? Even their drivers are > labeled as "Gateway - English". Hmmm. No matter, I changed the EIDEdrives > to SCSI and will be changing the video card to the Voodoo 5 6k when itcomes

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> out. > > Now if we could just get the Act Labs shifter support in GPL, I may never > leave the house again... > > Thanks again, > Dave > > > > "Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:02:58 -0400, "David McCarson" > > <legendno6..@..yahoo.com> thus spoke: > > > > >I've put the nvopengl.dll 3.68 in the GPL directory, used enditall to

end > > >all processes, set the buffer flipping mode to block transfer (for the > > >flickering mirrors). Anything I'm missing, Nos? It's killing metrying

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> to > > >figure out what is keeping the FR down. Every other game screams (I've > got > > >Q3 up in the 80-90 fps), so I am sure it is a setting I am missing with > GPL > > >which will dip to about 30fps at the start of a race. Is there a tweak > I've > > >overlooked? > > > > I had to turn sidebanding off when I play GPL or it locks up. LOD > > slider in the middle. Try turning mip mapping to fastest setting or > > auto. Get a P3 800@900. :-) > > > > -- > > Nos > >