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Yes, let's start Utility Faqs...

14 posts by 7 people · 07 Jun 2000 15:32 UTC - 09 Jun 2000 11:06 UTC

Andrew Turner 07 Jun 2000 15:32 UTC#264719
Tim Vanhee wrote in an earlier post: ******************* I'm not trying to offend you at all (I even asked this same question here once). This question is asked several times a week. Could anybody start a FAQ site for GPL where questions like flickering mirrors, enableing FF,... all sorts of gpl related problems can be answered? Or does it exist? ******************* I think it would be a great idea to start a "utility" faq for each sim.... not a gameplay faq, as there are plenty of those, but faqs to answer "utility" questions such as "how can I fix this" or "where can I get more cars for..." What I think we need is: 1) someone to volunteer to host the faqs 2) recommendations for existing faqs we can pick up on 3) maybe we can post known fixes with distinct titles to this group, such as: "N3 AI PIT SPEED FIX" so that the people managing the faqs would be able to pick up on them quickly. My two cents. Hey! Where the hell is the "cents" symbol? Andrew
Don Scurlock 07 Jun 2000 19:00 UTC#264623
What an excellent idea! I vote for Andrew and Tim to be the official r.a.s. FAQ writers. We would all be deeply indebted to you. Seriously, everybody knows we need one, it's a matter of somebody deciding to do it. I think there used to be a regulary posted faq on ras, but it obviously hasn't been around for a while. [email hidden] (Andrew Turner) wrote in <[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (42 lines)>Tim Vanhee wrote in an earlier post: > > >******************* > >I'm not trying to offend you at all (I even asked this same question >here >once). >This question is asked several times a week. >Could anybody start a FAQ site for GPL where questions like >flickering mirrors, enableing FF,... all sorts of gpl related >problems can be answered? >Or does it exist? > >******************* > >I think it would be a great idea to start a "utility" faq for each >sim.... not a gameplay faq, as there are plenty of those, but faqs >to answer "utility" questions such as "how can I fix this" or "where >can I get more cars for..." > >What I think we need is: > >1) someone to volunteer to host the faqs > >2) recommendations for existing faqs we can pick up on > >3) maybe we can post known fixes with distinct titles to this group, >such as: > >"N3 AI PIT SPEED FIX" > >so that the people managing the faqs would be able to pick up on >them quickly. > > > >My two cents. Hey! Where the hell is the "cents" symbol? > >Andrew > >
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GTX_SlotCar 07 Jun 2000 21:35 UTC#264557
If you need a place for it I'll volunteer the space and a menu for it, but I don't have the time to do the actual faq. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8F4C7AC3Ddscurlock@news... > What an excellent idea! I vote for Andrew and Tim to be the official > r.a.s. FAQ writers. We would all be deeply indebted to you. > Seriously, everybody knows we need one, it's a matter of somebody > deciding to do it. I think there used to be a regulary posted faq on > ras, but it obviously hasn't been around for a while. > > [email hidden] (Andrew Turner) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > >Tim Vanhee wrote in an earlier post: > > > > > >******************* > > > >I'm not trying to offend you at all (I even asked this same question > >here > >once). > >This question is asked several times a week. > >Could anybody start a FAQ site for GPL where questions like > >flickering mirrors, enableing FF,... all sorts of gpl related > >problems can be answered? > >Or does it exist? > > > >******************* > > > >I think it would be a great idea to start a "utility" faq for each > >sim.... not a gameplay faq, as there are plenty of those, but faqs > >to answer "utility" questions such as "how can I fix this" or "where > >can I get more cars for..." > > > >What I think we need is: > > > >1) someone to volunteer to host the faqs > > > >2) recommendations for existing faqs we can pick up on > > > >3) maybe we can post known fixes with distinct titles to this group, > >such as: > > > >"N3 AI PIT SPEED FIX" > > > >so that the people managing the faqs would be able to pick up on > >them quickly. > > > > > > > >My two cents. Hey! Where the hell is the "cents" symbol? > > > >Andrew > > > > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Neil 08 Jun 2000#264481
I agree absolutely that this would be a great thing to do, and it is something that I had been wondering about putting on my recently-built GPL website. I think that it would fit into my site quite well, as I've already tried to put up some hardware recommendations (eg get a Voodoo 3 if you want the least hassles.....). I'm happy to start compiling some information, but input from others would be helpful as I obviously have not used every trick in the book! I'll start doing a FAQ for the tricks that I have used, and the others that I know about, in the next few days. You can check out the site as it stands at: www.callnet0800.co.uk/myhome/nreverett/gplindex.htm And email me at : [email hidden] Don Scurlock wrote:
Quoted text (58 lines)> What an excellent idea! I vote for Andrew and Tim to be the official > r.a.s. FAQ writers. We would all be deeply indebted to you. > Seriously, everybody knows we need one, it's a matter of somebody > deciding to do it. I think there used to be a regulary posted faq on > ras, but it obviously hasn't been around for a while. > > [email hidden] (Andrew Turner) wrote in > <[email hidden]>: > > >Tim Vanhee wrote in an earlier post: > > > > > >******************* > > > >I'm not trying to offend you at all (I even asked this same question > >here > >once). > >This question is asked several times a week. > >Could anybody start a FAQ site for GPL where questions like > >flickering mirrors, enableing FF,... all sorts of gpl related > >problems can be answered? > >Or does it exist? > > > >******************* > > > >I think it would be a great idea to start a "utility" faq for each > >sim.... not a gameplay faq, as there are plenty of those, but faqs > >to answer "utility" questions such as "how can I fix this" or "where > >can I get more cars for..." > > > >What I think we need is: > > > >1) someone to volunteer to host the faqs > > > >2) recommendations for existing faqs we can pick up on > > > >3) maybe we can post known fixes with distinct titles to this group, > >such as: > > > >"N3 AI PIT SPEED FIX" > > > >so that the people managing the faqs would be able to pick up on > >them quickly. > > > > > > > >My two cents. Hey! Where the hell is the "cents" symbol? > > > >Andrew > > > > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Liutger Franzen 08 Jun 2000 08:39 UTC#264474
Quoted text (7 lines)> I'm not trying to offend you at all (I even asked this same question > here once). > This question is asked several times a week. > Could anybody start a FAQ site for GPL where questions like flickering > mirrors, enableing FF,... all sorts of gpl related problems can be > answered? > Or does it exist?
there is FAQ for r.a.s., but it was last modified on 28th of march 1999. you can fid it at: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/simulators/introduction/ or ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/mcarver/AutoSim/rasfaq.txt I tried to contact the former maintainer Michael E. Carver and volunteered to continue the FAQ but I did not get a reply. then there is a GPL-FAQ maintained by Alison Hine, including a hardware and online section. you can find this at: http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/faq.htm > I think it would be a great idea to start a "utility" faq for each > sim.... not a gameplay faq, as there are plenty of those, but faqs to > answer "utility" questions such as "how can I fix this" or "where can I > get more cars for..." I'd rather say that these questions should be covered by the r.a.s. FAQ. if there is someone who offers the webspace, I'd volunteer to continue the maintainance of the r.a.s. FAQ. Lio
Don Scurlock 08 Jun 2000 14:12 UTC#264410
In a previous post I believe Slot made an offer of space. "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> [email hidden] (Liutger Franzen) wrote in <[email hidden]>:
Quoted text (26 lines)>there is FAQ for r.a.s., but it was last modified on 28th of march >1999. you can fid it at: > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/simulators/introduction/ >or ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/mcarver/AutoSim/rasfaq.txt > >I tried to contact the former maintainer Michael E. Carver and >volunteered to continue the FAQ but I did not get a reply. > >then there is a GPL-FAQ maintained by Alison Hine, including a >hardware and online section. you can find this at: > > http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/faq.htm > >> I think it would be a great idea to start a "utility" faq for each >> sim.... not a gameplay faq, as there are plenty of those, but faqs >> to answer "utility" questions such as "how can I fix this" or >> "where can I get more cars for..." > >I'd rather say that these questions should be covered by the r.a.s. >FAQ. > >if there is someone who offers the webspace, I'd volunteer to >continue the maintainance of the r.a.s. FAQ. > >Lio
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Liutger Franzen 08 Jun 2000 14:24 UTC#264417
> We don't need a FAQ for RAS, we need a FAQ for the technical (not the > gameplay) aspect of sims. as far as I understood FAQs for newsgroups, they include the most common questions asked in the newsgroup. and in this NG, a lot of them deal with technical problems, so a r.a.s. FAQ could cover this. just my 2 cents though ... Lio
Andrew Turner 08 Jun 2000 14:49 UTC#264427
Hi Lio, Technically, if there is an "r.a.s. FAQ", it covers the operation and use of this newsgroup, not the operation and use of the programs discussed.. Besides, I think we would need a separate FAQ for each sim anyway. My 3 cents (saw your 2 and raised you 1) Andrew Liutger Franzen wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > We don't need a FAQ for RAS, we need a FAQ for the technical (not the > > gameplay) aspect of sims. > > as far as I understood FAQs for newsgroups, they include the most common > questions asked in the newsgroup. and in this NG, a lot of them deal > with technical problems, so a r.a.s. FAQ could cover this. just my 2 > cents though ... > > Lio
Tim Vanhee 08 Jun 2000 15:26 UTC#264404
We don't need a FAQ for RAS, we need a FAQ for the technical (not the gameplay) aspect of sims. Liutger Franzen <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]...
Quoted text (33 lines)> > I'm not trying to offend you at all (I even asked this same question > > here once). > > This question is asked several times a week. > > Could anybody start a FAQ site for GPL where questions like flickering > > mirrors, enableing FF,... all sorts of gpl related problems can be > > answered? > > Or does it exist? > > there is FAQ for r.a.s., but it was last modified on 28th of march 1999. > you can fid it at: > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/simulators/introduction/ > or ftp://ftp.teleport.com/users/mcarver/AutoSim/rasfaq.txt > > I tried to contact the former maintainer Michael E. Carver and > volunteered to continue the FAQ but I did not get a reply. > > then there is a GPL-FAQ maintained by Alison Hine, including a hardware > and online section. you can find this at: > > http://simracing.com/alison/gpl/faq.htm > > > I think it would be a great idea to start a "utility" faq for each > > sim.... not a gameplay faq, as there are plenty of those, but faqs to > > answer "utility" questions such as "how can I fix this" or "where can I > > get more cars for..." > > I'd rather say that these questions should be covered by the r.a.s. FAQ. > > if there is someone who offers the webspace, I'd volunteer to continue > the maintainance of the r.a.s. FAQ. > > Lio
Michael E. Carver 08 Jun 2000 15:57 UTC#264291
On Thu, 08 Jun 2000 16:25:14 +0200 Liutger Franzen <[email hidden]> wrote: % > We don't need a FAQ for RAS, we need a FAQ for the technical (not the % > gameplay) aspect of sims. % as far as I understood FAQs for newsgroups, they include the most common % questions asked in the newsgroup. and in this NG, a lot of them deal % with technical problems, so a r.a.s. FAQ could cover this. just my 2 % cents though ... 2 cents...... Some newsgroups do get the same questions over and over again. r.a.s. does as well, but they tend to be "game" specific and not r.a.s. specific. Therefore, we need r.a.s FAQ's for each heavily discussed "game". In the past there were unofficial FAQ's for f1rs gp2 n2 gpl which I posted on a regular basis. However, as I had to take the trouble to check these unofficial FAQs for updates and then re-edit them for posting to r.a.s. I soon ran out of time. I was even 'clobbered' by one of the faq authors for posting it to r.a.s (they wanted the web site traffic) and didn't want it posted to r.a.s. I even got hate mail from folks who thought I was spamming because they kept getting the faq over and over again. <G> In order to keep the work load down for FAQ maintainer(s) it is best to have several specific faqs... r.a.s. general introduction FAQ (what is r.a.s.) r.a.s. controller FAQ r.a.s. general hardware FAQ (video cards, MB, CPU's for optimizing sim performance) r.a.s. GPL FAQ r.a.s. F12k FAQ r.a.s. N3 FAQ r.a.s. GP3 FAQ r.a.s. SCGT FAQ r.a.s. DTR FAQ r.a.s. game of the week FAQ this way as sims come and go in popularity one general FAQ does not have to be maintained. Nor does an individual have to wade through one huge FAQ to find the information the seek. The other alternative is for there to be links to game specific FAQ's in the one general introduction FAQ. There are official FAQs and unofficial FAQs. Official FAQs must be registered as well as the FAQ maintainer. After all of the effort, only 1 out of a 100 posters will read the FAQ before posting their question...... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. [email hidden] http://www.teleport.com/~mcarver =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Don Scurlock 08 Jun 2000 17:03 UTC#264306
[email hidden] wrote in <4oP%4.8892$[email hidden]>: >The other alternative is for there to be links to game specific FAQ's >in the one general introduction FAQ. I think this is the way to go. One small, daily, post containing nothing but links.(is it possible to automate a daily posting?) That way we can just direct questions to the links, if people haven't clued into it on there own. And I will happily leap down the throat of anyone who considers the daily post spam, as it would be nothing compared to the questions that get repeatedly asked and answered here. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Andrew Turner 08 Jun 2000 18:20 UTC#264322
It may be a little too much to update ia general faq daily; I think an introduction faq would be helpful, though I envision someone asking for help for a specific problem, and then being directed o a page which lists links for that program, instead of being directed to a general faq they may not need anyway, skipping over it, and simply linking to their desired "area of knowledge". When I first came to this group, there is no doubt I asked questions which had been answered a million times (and still do!).. I personally would not have scoured the group expecting to find a general faq. I lurked a little bit, but once I had questions, I asked - and got good answers, some of which pointed to sites and some of which answered the questions directly. I think it's possible a lot of people only look for this group once they experience some sort of trouble. Whew! good thing you don't have to hold your breath while typing. Andrew Don Scurlock wrote:
Quoted text (19 lines)> [email hidden] wrote in <4oP%4.8892$[email hidden]>: > > >The other alternative is for there to be links to game specific FAQ's > >in the one general introduction FAQ. > > I think this is the way to go. One small, daily, post containing > nothing but links.(is it possible to automate a daily posting?) That > way we can just direct questions to the links, if people haven't clued > into it on there own. And I will happily leap down the throat of anyone > who considers the daily post spam, as it would be nothing compared to > the questions that get repeatedly asked and answered here. > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > GPLRank -1.90 > > Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site > http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Don Scurlock 09 Jun 2000 06:32 UTC#264214
[email hidden] (Andrew Turner) wrote in <[email hidden]>: >It may be a little too much to update a general faq daily; I'm not suggesting you update it daily, I'm suggesting that the same post be posted daily to the group. And that post would be nothing but a list of urls to specific FAQs. Title it "Do You Need Help ? READ ME!"
Quoted text (27 lines)> >Don Scurlock wrote: >> [email hidden] wrote in >> <4oP%4.8892$[email hidden]>: >> >> >The other alternative is for there to be links to game specific >> >FAQ's in the one general introduction FAQ. >> >> I think this is the way to go. One small, daily, post containing >> nothing but links.(is it possible to automate a daily posting?) >> That way we can just direct questions to the links, if people >> haven't clued into it on there own. And I will happily leap down >> the throat of anyone who considers the daily post spam, as it >> would be nothing compared to the questions that get repeatedly >> asked and answered here. >> >> -- >> Don Scurlock >> Vancouver,B.C. >> GPLRank -1.90 >> >> Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site >> http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/ >
-- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -1.90 Come see how you rate, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/
Andrew Turner 09 Jun 2000 11:06 UTC#264156
Hi Don, Well, it certainly wouldn't hurt anyone! I think I'm with you on this one. Andrew Don Scurlock wrote: > I'm suggesting that the same > post be posted daily to the group. And that post would be nothing but > a list of urls to specific FAQs. Title it "Do You Need Help ? READ > ME!" >

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