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Future of GPL, is it in jeopardy?

12 posts by 9 people · 25 Apr 2000 - 29 Apr 2000 00:25 UTC

aws6000 25 Apr 2000#275468
As we've all seen over the past year, GPL continues to be the best driving simulator on the market. Other companies have promised to meet or beat it, but as of today no one has come close. This is starting to worry me.... Computer and graphic card technology is continuing to evolve, and yet we're stuck only with 3Dfx and Rendition support. There is an unofficial OpenGL patch, but from what I can tell it's worthiness is hit or miss. Will it work with all OpenGL drivers or only those from Nvidia (and that appears to be only a subset of drivers)? In the near future I'd like to upgrade my system, graphics card in particular, unfortunately GPL will prevent me from purchasing the best technology available. What I would like to see is an unofficial DirectX/Direct 3D patch made available by Papyrus or a 3rd party developer. This would extend the lifetime of GPL (I don't want to maintain a specific GPL box), and open up a broader choice of graphics cards. Do you think it would be possible to lobby Papy to develop a DX patch? Or even to farm out the job to an outside developer? I would surely pay $10 to $15 dollars to keep this game alive for another few years. This a very unique game that faithfully reproduces a great moment in sporting history and I'd hate to see it fall by the wayside because of something as silly as a graphics card. Sure there will be dozens and dozens of modern F1 sims released in the next 2 years, but they won't have the heart and style of Grand Prix Legends. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Kirk Lane 25 Apr 2000 23:10 UTC#275269
In theory it shouldn't be too incredibly hard to do...all you need is to write a DLL to dump in the GPL directory (Matrox made a G200 patch...but it sucked and hasn't been messed with since October 1998...) Speaking of that G200 patch, is there the possibilty that the G200 patch was really just a D3d patch made by Matrox???????? -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] [email hidden] ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA"
> More than possible, it is true. Someone had better tell 3dfx quick... they'd probably pay these guys *not* to finish :-) Seriously, that's superb news. Good luck to those involved, it could ensure GPL goes on forever (or until something better comes along, which seems to be the same thing). Of course you probably shouldn't have mentioned this. Within weeks the Rambo effect will rear its ugly head. Someone'll start shouting "Where's my D3D patch??? You freakin'*promised*!!!" Andrew McP... with no faith in human nature whatsoever <g>
George M. Smiley 26 Apr 2000 00:43 UTC#275284
"Kirk Lane" <[email hidden]> wrote > Speaking of that G200 patch, is there the possibilty that the > G200 patch was really just a D3d patch made by Matrox? More than possible, it is true. Regardless work is underway on a GPL D3D rasteriser by possibly three different individuals that I know of (one of which may be a Papyrus worker slaving away in his spare time). All that is required is patience. - George
Don Scurlock 26 Apr 2000 03:54 UTC#275225
[email hidden] (George M. Smiley) wrote in <qYqN4.74$[email hidden]>: >work is underway on >a GPL D3D rasteriser by possibly three different individuals that >I know of (one of which may be a Papyrus worker slaving away >in his spare time). > >All that is required is patience. That is a GREAT bit of news. I'll be looking forward to it...patiently of course. Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C.
Dave Henrie 26 Apr 2000 19:53 UTC#275079
Hey! You Freakin' PROMISED! Where's the D3D patch.\ dave (smirk) henrie Andrew MacPherson wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> > > More than possible, it is true. > > Someone had better tell 3dfx quick... they'd probably pay these guys *not* > to finish :-) > > Seriously, that's superb news. Good luck to those involved, it could > ensure GPL goes on forever (or until something better comes along, which > seems to be the same thing). > > Of course you probably shouldn't have mentioned this. Within weeks the > Rambo effect will rear its ugly head. Someone'll start shouting "Where's > my D3D patch??? You freakin'*promised*!!!" > > Andrew McP... with no faith in human nature whatsoever <g>
AndrewS 26 Apr 2000 21:57 UTC#275008
> More than possible, it is true. Regardless work is underway on > a GPL D3D rasteriser by possibly three different individuals that > I know of (one of which may be a Papyrus worker slaving away > in his spare time). This is "possibly" the best news I've heard all day. Like I said in my post, I'm willing to pay a few $'s to see this become a reality.
Is this a team effort, or three separete projects? The latter would seem very silly, especially in today's trendy 'Open Source' world! Anyway, if this becomes a commercial add-on, I'll buy it. If it's giftware, then I'll send 'em a chocolate egg or somesuch! :-) Never mind patience... Who? When? Where? :-) -- Richard. "Take these broken wings and learn to fly all your life."
Kirk Lane 28 Apr 2000 00:22 UTC#274770
LOL!!! It has a name now!! 'The Rambo Effect'....too funny!!!! -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] [email hidden] ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA"
Lee 28 Apr 2000 01:40 UTC#274712
matrox gpl opengl patch 28feb 2000 http://www.matrox.com/mga/drivers/patch_demos/patches.htm Kirk Lane <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8e58l2$c5e$[email hidden]... > In theory it shouldn't be too incredibly hard to do...all you need is to > write a DLL to dump in the GPL directory (Matrox made a G200 patch...butit > sucked and hasn't been messed with since October 1998...) Speaking ofthat
Quoted text (19 lines)> G200 patch, is there the possibilty that the G200 patch was really just a > D3d patch made by Matrox???????? > > -- > Kirk Lane > [email hidden] > [email hidden] > ICQ: 28171652 > BRT #187 > > "Yeah you won't find me > I'm going MIA > Tonight I'm leaving > Going MIA > Getting lost in you again > Is better than being known" > -Foo Fighters, "MIA" > >
Kirk Lane 29 Apr 2000 00:23 UTC#274521
Oh my lord THEY UPDATED THE PATCH???????? Even though a V2 now resides in the PCI slot next door it's worth a look... -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] [email hidden] ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" Lee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8eaq5l$fpo$[email hidden]... > matrox gpl opengl patch 28feb 2000 > http://www.matrox.com/mga/drivers/patch_demos/patches.htm > Kirk Lane <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8e58l2$c5e$[email hidden]... > > In theory it shouldn't be too incredibly hard to do...all you need is to > > write a DLL to dump in the GPL directory (Matrox made a G200 patch...but > it > > sucked and hasn't been messed with since October 1998...) Speaking of > that > > G200 patch, is there the possibilty that the G200 patch was really just a > > D3d patch made by Matrox???????? > > > > -- > > Kirk Lane > > [email hidden] > > [email hidden] > > ICQ: 28171652 > > BRT #187 > > > > "Yeah you won't find me > > I'm going MIA > > Tonight I'm leaving > > Going MIA > > Getting lost in you again > > Is better than being known" > > -Foo Fighters, "MIA" > > > > > >
Kirk Lane 29 Apr 2000 00:25 UTC#274522
Wait, wait wait... It's just Papy's OpenGL patch... =( -- Kirk Lane [email hidden] [email hidden] ICQ: 28171652 BRT #187 "Yeah you won't find me I'm going MIA Tonight I'm leaving Going MIA Getting lost in you again Is better than being known" -Foo Fighters, "MIA" Lee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8eaq5l$fpo$[email hidden]... > matrox gpl opengl patch 28feb 2000 > http://www.matrox.com/mga/drivers/patch_demos/patches.htm > Kirk Lane <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8e58l2$c5e$[email hidden]... > > In theory it shouldn't be too incredibly hard to do...all you need is to > > write a DLL to dump in the GPL directory (Matrox made a G200 patch...but > it > > sucked and hasn't been messed with since October 1998...) Speaking of > that > > G200 patch, is there the possibilty that the G200 patch was really just a > > D3d patch made by Matrox???????? > > > > -- > > Kirk Lane > > [email hidden] > > [email hidden] > > ICQ: 28171652 > > BRT #187 > > > > "Yeah you won't find me > > I'm going MIA > > Tonight I'm leaving > > Going MIA > > Getting lost in you again > > Is better than being known" > > -Foo Fighters, "MIA" > > > > > >

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