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Re: GPL - Finally Beat 1:30 at Monza!!

15 posts by 13 people · 05 Apr 2000 - 06 Apr 2000 22:49 UTC

On Wed 05 Apr 2000 12:48:59p, Todd Sorensen wrote: >How about a wheel. I can't believe some of you are using a joystick >- some of the same ones who ONLY want to play a TRUE sim. I will >have to check, but I don't think the cars in 1967 were equipped with >joysticks. <snip> I don't remember them having Shift-R after smashing headlong into the Spa wall, either :-) -- David. "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
Kevin Gavitt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8cfeme$9ia$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> > "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > > below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would > > have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > > couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second > > place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my > > 1:29.88. > > > > My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the > > fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > > forward/back motion for these functions. > > > > Chris > > > > Interact is now making a pistol grip car controler called the FX. Looks
and > works a bit like an R/C car radio, plus, get this, the wheel is force > feedback! The first review I've seen of it says the FF really works too. > Dirt cheap to boot. > Beware, though, that the utilities that ship with the controller cause huge drops in system performance, according to some. The "force" feedback is also not a worthwhile addition in this small controller. However, having used the previous, non-FF version of the Interact controller, I love them, and the ergonomics of the new one seem better. I would buy it and forget the FF aspect. Stephen
M Connolly 05 Apr 2000#280703
In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: > After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. Congrats. I got it in January too, and got under 1:30 for the first time this weekend. Came right out of the blue (7th lap of an 11 lap race). Isn't it a great feeling? Mind you, in my case I was left wondering how less fuel makes *me* slower! > I would > have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second > place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my > 1:29.88. Third place is my best finish. I actually led a race once in Spa after a pile-up at turn 1, but it went to my head and I ran over someone at the Masta kink. > > My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the > fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > forward/back motion for these functions. OK, now I feel crap again. A decent wheel/pedal setup (like mine) would surely make you a lot quicker. The weakest link in my setup is (sadly) the guy-who's-beginning-to-accept-he's-not-the-new-Senna at the wheel. Thanks to everyone who offered tips on this group btw. I found switching tracks and cars helps a lot. I amazed myself by taking 1.5sec off my PB at Spa by switching from a Lotus to an Eagle (3:22.86). A case of a change being better than a rest I think. It was a great weekend! Michael (who is agnostic about SIMS, but loves GPL more every day). Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Schlomo4 05 Apr 2000#280772
Congrats!! Its certianly a great feelig isnt it? And from my experiance after you get that first 1:29 running that consistantly isnt too far off. Chris BTW- I've been running GPL since it was released and I still get excited about a second place finish so thats definately something to be proud of too.
Chris Bloom 05 Apr 2000 04:57 UTC#280860
After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my 1:29.88. My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the forward/back motion for these functions. Chris * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
Alastair Ingram 05 Apr 2000 07:30 UTC#280649
Congratulations Chris! I am eagerly awaiting breaking through the 1.30 mark. I have a PB of 1.30.1 After only about eight months! :-) "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would > have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second > place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my > 1:29.88. > > My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the > fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > forward/back motion for these functions. > > Chris > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network
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Ryan Mitchley 05 Apr 2000 09:20 UTC#280676
Well done! It's something of a relief to find I'm not the only one not running 1:27.xxx yet ;-) I still have break 1:30 myself. I just wish I had more time to hack away at my times. They keep coming down, but every 0.5 second needs quite a substantial investment of time . . . You're South African, right? I live in Cape Town - I wonder how many S.A. GPL'ers could be found so that we could start an online multiplay session. Do any of them read this newsgroup? Ryan
Richard G Clegg 05 Apr 2000 09:34 UTC#280679
Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: : After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got : below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would : have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a : couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second : place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my : 1:29.88. : My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the : fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the : forward/back motion for these functions. Hmm.. you're making things veeeery difficult for yourself using fire buttons to accelerate and decelerate. You've essentailly no control over how MUCH you accelerate and decelerate. If you can get yourself a decent controlled for brakes and throttle you'll find a world of difference. (A cheap option might be an extra joystick, I'm told some people race successfully like this). -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/
Todd Sorensen 05 Apr 2000 11:48 UTC#280798
How about a wheel. I can't believe some of you are using a joystick - some of the same ones who ONLY want to play a TRUE sim. I will have to check, but I don't think the cars in 1967 were equipped with joysticks. Todd Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8cf1an$glu$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (24 lines)> Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: > : After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > : below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would > : have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > : couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second > : place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my > : 1:29.88. > > : My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the > : fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > : forward/back motion for these functions. > > Hmm.. you're making things veeeery difficult for yourself using fire > buttons to accelerate and decelerate. You've essentailly no control > over how MUCH you accelerate and decelerate. If you can get yourself a > decent controlled for brakes and throttle you'll find a world of > difference. (A cheap option might be an extra joystick, I'm told some > people race successfully like this). > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/
kcgenn 05 Apr 2000 12:01 UTC#280806
If you want to really get your times down you have to get pedals. If you can't "feather" the gas and brake you'll go into or come out of corners faster than the guys with the pedals. CH products has a nice set of pedals you can add to your joystick. Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would > have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second > place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my > 1:29.88. > > My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the > fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > forward/back motion for these functions. > > Chris > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network
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kcgenn 05 Apr 2000 12:04 UTC#280807
Typo! you'll go into or come out of corners SLOWER than the guys with the pedals. sorrry. kcgenn <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BWFG4.6337$O5.64426@news02...
Quoted text (22 lines)> If you want to really get your times down you have to get pedals. If you > can't "feather" the gas and brake you'll go into or come out of corners > faster than the guys with the pedals. CH products has a nice set of pedals > you can add to your joystick. > > > Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > > below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would > > have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > > couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second > > place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my > > 1:29.88. > > > > My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the > > fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > > forward/back motion for these functions. > > > > Chris > > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion
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David Karr 05 Apr 2000 12:13 UTC#280816
maybe they're a bit poor right now, spam-boy --DK "Todd Sorensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LKFG4.29875$[email hidden]... > How about a wheel. I can't believe some of you are using a joystick - some > of the same ones who ONLY want to play a TRUE sim. I will have to check,but > I don't think the cars in 1967 were equipped with joysticks. > > Todd
Kevin Gavitt 05 Apr 2000 13:22 UTC#280831
"Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I would > have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway second > place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with my > 1:29.88. > > My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use the > fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > forward/back motion for these functions. > > Chris >
Interact is now making a pistol grip car controler called the FX. Looks and works a bit like an R/C car radio, plus, get this, the wheel is force feedback! The first review I've seen of it says the FF really works too. Dirt cheap to boot. Check it out at http://www.force-1.com/
Chris Bloom 06 Apr 2000 17:33 UTC#280223
In article <8cf0h9$dt4$[email hidden]>, "Ryan Mitchley" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Well done! Thanks, and thanks to everyone else for their congratulations in this thread. > >You're South African, right? I've lived here in Durban for the last ten years. > >I live in Cape Town - I wonder how many S.A. GPL'ers could befound so that >we could start an online multiplay session. Do any of them readthis >newsgroup? I would be interested in having an on-line race, Maybe we could do a race as a test and try and find some more racers somehow. Chris
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Don Burnette 06 Apr 2000 22:49 UTC#280169
During development of GPL, many of the in house Papy testers used joysticks with pedals, and from what I understand were very fast. I also have seen some extremely fast N2 and N3 online racers that used joysticks. Hey, as long as your having fun, that's what counts! -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends "Chris Bloom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <LKFG4.29875 > $[email hidden]>, "Todd Sorensen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >How about a wheel. I can't believe some of you are using a > joystick > > A couple of reasons I don't have a wheel. Firstly I don't have > the money for one at the moment and when i did have some cash I > chose the stick as I also like Flight Sims and other games that > require a joystick. The only thing that I suffer with is GPL, > but I guess I am doing okay and importantly I'm enjoying it. > > Chris > > Chris > > - some > >of the same ones who ONLY want to play a TRUE sim. I will have > to check, but > >I don't think the cars in 1967 were equipped with joysticks. > > > >Todd > > > >Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:8cf1an$glu$[email hidden]... > >> Chris Bloom <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> : After about five months with GPL this morning I finally got > >> : below 1:30 at Monza during practice for a novice race. I > would > >> : have won the race aswell had it not been for me going wide a > >> : couple of times coming out of the second Lesmo. Anyway > second > >> : place is my best yet in a F1 race and I'm happy enough with > my > >> : 1:29.88. > >> > >> : My controller, MS Sidewinder Precision Pro Joystick, I use > the > >> : fire buttons for Gas/Brake as I can't drive using the > >> : forward/back motion for these functions. > >> > >> Hmm.. you're making things veeeery difficult for yourself > using fire > >> buttons to accelerate and decelerate. You've essentailly no > control > >> over how MUCH you accelerate and decelerate. If you can get > yourself a > >> decent controlled for brakes and throttle you'll find a world > of > >> difference. (A cheap option might be an extra joystick, I'm > told some > >> people race successfully like this). > >> > >> -- > >> Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > >> Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > >> Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > >> UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! >

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