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Another question regarding F12000

8 posts by 6 people · 26 Mar 2000 00:52 UTC - 27 Mar 2000 12:13 UTC

Brian Ekberg 26 Mar 2000 00:52 UTC#283687
Okay, so the Playstation version features two types of gear boxes for the cars: the automatic and what's referred to as the "semi-automatic" which basically means that when the engine reaches a certain RPM decrease, it will automatically shift to a lower (numeric) gear. My question: Is this a "real" feature of F1 cars, or is this an attempt by EA to insult my driving intelligence? Every other F1 game I've played has "true" manual transmission. Thanks, Brian
GB 26 Mar 2000 01:07 UTC#283814
I had heard that there was a system whereby the drivers would shift up manually, then press a button and the car would downshift automatically.
DjFIL 26 Mar 2000 04:45 UTC#283771
umm, I'm not 100% sure on this... But today durring qual on itv the guys came up with a comment about blowing engines. That blowing engines is not by bad driving, as the revs (and gears?) are controled by electronics, and when an engine blows it is totaly a mechanical problem. Dunno if this'd go with this problem...but you never know. The modern f1 cars seam to drive them selves... as most would say.. f1 is now 90% car, 10% driver. Brian Ekberg wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)> Okay, so the Playstation version features two types of gear boxes for the > cars: the automatic and what's referred to as the "semi-automatic" which > basically means that when the engine reaches a certain RPM decrease, it will > automatically shift to a lower (numeric) gear. My question: Is this a "real" > feature of F1 cars, or is this an attempt by EA to insult my driving > intelligence? > > Every other F1 game I've played has "true" manual transmission. > > Thanks, > Brian
Then why the F did EA include the so-called "semi-automatic" feature in the game? If it's a "sim" then this shouldn't be part of the game. Oh well, now I'm REALLY looking forward to F1WGP on the Dreamcast... Brian > The gearboxes in f1 aren't semi automatic as in they change themselves. The > electronics do however prevent changing into an inappropriate gear and over
Quoted text (11 lines)> revving the engine. > -- > Ian Parker > == > > umm, I'm not 100% sure on this... But today durring qual on itv the guys > came up > > with a comment about blowing engines. That blowing engines is not by
bad
Quoted text (7 lines)> > driving, as the revs (and gears?) are controled by electronics, and when > an > > engine blows it is totaly a mechanical problem. Dunno if this'd go with > this > > problem...but you never know. The modern f1 cars seam to drive them > selves... > > as most would say.. f1 is now 90% car, 10% driver.
rrevved 27 Mar 2000#523908
>Then why the F did EA include the so-called "semi-automatic" feature in the >game? If it's a "sim" then this shouldn't be part of the game. Brian, I am not aware of any F1 sim that accurately simulates the current day gearboxes. All of them, that I am aware of, simulate manual shift and fully automatic. It sounds as is F1-2000 on the PSX is no different, or did I miss something in the description from Ian?
Quoted text (23 lines)>> The gearboxes in f1 aren't semi automatic as in they change themselves. >The >> electronics do however prevent changing into an inappropriate gear and >over >> revving the engine. >> -- >> Ian Parker >> == >> > umm, I'm not 100% sure on this... But today durring qual on itv the guys >> came up >> > with a comment about blowing engines. That blowing engines is not by >bad >> > driving, as the revs (and gears?) are controled by electronics, and when >> an >> > engine blows it is totaly a mechanical problem. Dunno if this'd go with >> this >> > problem...but you never know. The modern f1 cars seam to drive them >> selves... >> > as most would say.. f1 is now 90% car, 10% driver.
-- * rrev at mindspring dot com *
: Brian, I am not aware of any F1 sim that accurately simulates the current : day gearboxes. All of them, that I am aware of, simulate manual : shift and fully automatic. It sounds as is F1-2000 on the PSX is : no different, or did I miss something in the description from Ian? The PSX verison has two modes, auto (does everything for you) and semi-auto (auto clutch, manual shift) like most other games. In semi-auto mode, gearchanges that would over- or under-rev the engine are blocked. -- Mathew Hendry, Programmer, Visual Sciences Ltd.
rrevved 27 Mar 2000#523910
Quoted text (9 lines)>: Brian, I am not aware of any F1 sim that accurately simulates the current >: day gearboxes. All of them, that I am aware of, simulate manual >: shift and fully automatic. It sounds as is F1-2000 on the PSX is >: no different, or did I miss something in the description from Ian? >The PSX verison has two modes, auto (does everything for you) and >semi-auto (auto clutch, manual shift) like most other games. In >semi-auto mode, gearchanges that would over- or under-rev the engine >are blocked.
O.K., that sounds pretty cool. -- * rrev at mindspring dot com *
Ian P 27 Mar 2000 12:13 UTC#283372
The gearboxes in f1 aren't semi automatic as in they change themselves. The electronics do however prevent changing into an inappropriate gear and over revving the engine. -- Ian Parker [email hidden] [email hidden] == DjFIL <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > umm, I'm not 100% sure on this... But today durring qual on itv the guys came up > with a comment about blowing engines. That blowing engines is not by bad > driving, as the revs (and gears?) are controled by electronics, and when an > engine blows it is totaly a mechanical problem. Dunno if this'd go with this > problem...but you never know. The modern f1 cars seam to drive them selves... > as most would say.. f1 is now 90% car, 10% driver.

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