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LWFF getting wiggly in GPL. (demo)

5 posts by 5 people · 06 Mar 2000 06:00 UTC - 10 Mar 2000

Kai Fuller 06 Mar 2000 06:00 UTC#288265
Ok just when I get the pedals how I like them and my lap times fall by a couple seconds... It seems that the wheel is becoming very loose. I can turn in a couple degrees to the right and increasingly so to the left with out getting any feedback (like auto centering) and when I'm in GPL the car seems to weave back and forth either because the wheel is sending bad info, or it's so loose I'm not holding it strait and under it. (The drivers ed variety not cornering... where if you wait to long to correct you end up doing it in drastic motions) what do you guys think? I know there isn't a real question here, but any ideas on how to fix it? I've e-mailed logi, no response yet. Also I never got a reply on how to plug the FPS2000 digital adapter into my SB Live Card... Since I put GPL in the subject line, maybe I'll get some help, here's the original text.... Basically I can't figure out where to plug this onto the SB board...
Wayne Stelly 06 Mar 2000 06:50 UTC#288267
I had a play problem with my LWFF wheel also. Downloaded Ninunni's instructions on how to fix it. After I disassembled my wheel per his instructions (approximately 30 screws or so) I realized that what he was explaining as a solution and what it was fixing just didn't make sense to me. As it turned out the problem was simply play between the main shaft (with the two flats on opposite sides) and the matching (or not so matching) hole in the steering wheel. The very simple solution is as follows: 1. Remove the cap from the front of the wheel 2. Remove the nut. You may need to bend the retainer slightly to rotate the nut. 3. disconnect the connector and slide the wheel off of the shaft 4. Cut a piece of paper (or mylar) the width of the flat on the shaft and a length that is approximately 1 inch longer than the metal shaft. You may vary the thickness of the paper (or mylar) shim depending on how much play you have between the shaft and the wheel. 5. While holding the shim against the flat on the shaft and lining the bottom end up with the bottom of the shaft (towards the mechanism side of wheel), install the wheel while feeding the long end along with the connector through the hole in the wheel. Once the wheel is in place, you should be able to tell how much less play you have. Try a different thickness shim if necessary. 6. Once the wheel is all the way down onto the shaft, tear off or cut the protruding end of your shim, put on the retainer washer and nut and tighten to the previous tightness (not very tight in my case), bend over the retainer washer tab back against the flat of the nut, connect the connector and reinstall the cap. DONE! Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes or so. This completely solved my problem such that the slightest movement of the wheel results in a movement on the screen. It's Great! Hope this helps your problem. Good luck. Wayne Kai Fuller wrote:
Quoted text (18 lines)> Ok just when I get the pedals how I like them and my lap times fall by a > couple seconds... > > It seems that the wheel is becoming very loose. I can turn in a couple > degrees to the right and increasingly so to the left with out getting any > feedback (like auto centering) and when I'm in GPL the car seems to weave > back and forth either because the wheel is sending bad info, or it's so > loose I'm not holding it strait and under it. (The drivers ed variety not > cornering... where if you wait to long to correct you end up doing it in > drastic motions) > > what do you guys think? I know there isn't a real question here, but any > ideas on how to fix it? I've e-mailed logi, no response yet. > > Also I never got a reply on how to plug the FPS2000 digital adapter into my > SB Live Card... Since I put GPL in the subject line, maybe I'll get some > help, here's the original text.... Basically I can't figure out where to > plug this onto the SB board...
don hodgdon 06 Mar 2000#521940
Wayne, I tried this fix on my LWFF using the clear mylar from an envelope window. There wasn't a great deal of play in the wheel, maybe couple of degrees, but there is a noticeable improvement. Thanks for the tip. -- don [|]-(_)-[|]
JS 08 Mar 2000#288086
Better email me ;-) Either you should reduce your center death zone from 5 to 2 whatsoever using a small program or it's a mechanical problem. In this case the easiest solution is a loose nut under the wheel cap. From now on there will be a manual for dissambling the Logi on my webpage. See you Jens On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 21:59:56 -0800, "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ok just when I get the pedals how I like them and my lap times fall by a >couple seconds... > >It seems that the wheel is becoming very loose. I can turn in a couple<snip> --------------------------------------------- [email hidden] Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some serious stuff concerning: Radio controlled airplanes Racing simulation, esp. GPL Classic cars, esp. Morris Minor
PRooney797 10 Mar 2000#522312
Wayne, thanks for the excellent and simple fix. I'm a newbie to this group and after reading a lot of different opinions on the various wheels I went out and bought the Logitech wheel this past weekend. After playing with it a couple of days I was pretty dissappointed with the slop in the wheel. But your fix worked perfectly :) Thanks for passing along the simple fix, and the great instructions. Paul. P.S I also ordered GPL, and I'm having a blast trying to learn this sim. I must admit, I'm, spending more time in the grass and against the fence's than on the track right now :)

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