Re: GPL + Voodoo3... Any Tweaks To Improve Frame Rates?

On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:17:51 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: I don't know how you have your pc configured but I have a pII 450 o/c to 504mhz and a non o/c v3. I have solid 36fps all the way with the detail slider about 20% to the left. I have all options on apart from crowds, and drivers arms (it distracts me), and the mirrors are set to show cars and track only. With 12 cars I am able to have the detail slider all the way to the right with solid 36fps. I also have another pc, a pII 333 o/c to 500mhz with 12mb V2 SLI, and have similar performance. Both pc/s have 128mb pc100 ram, and I have practically nothing running in the background when I am gaming. Lots of memory and processing power will give solid 36fps in GPL, as for the V3 I've had it o/c with a pentium fan stuck to it, but I only gained fps once I o/c my processor. As for the V2 overclocking it just reduces it life spam and stability to about 60%. With a P3-450 I would expect much better performance than what your guys are getting. You should definitely aim for more as you have enough processing power there for the job. Mauricio.

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>Agree with most comments below - I've just moved from V2 to V3 >(2000) with a P3-450 and seen similar improvements. > >Detail slider does have a big effect as I tried moving it all the way to >the right to see whta happened and fps dived. > >I still use the "mirrors patch" with mirror refressh rate at 1/3rd front >view - extra forward fps is much more worthwhile. Also I set mirrors to >cars and track only. > >Couple of other points > >- I found no significant fps change by moving from "all" objects to >"many" > >- also found no significant improvements from overclocking to V3 (i.e. >I'm not losing anything from having 2000 and not 3000 or 3500!) > >1024x768 is no problem with practice. "back of grid at monte carlo" >needs to OC CPU to around 550MHz to get 30+ fps at start. > > >In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Phillip McNelley) wrote: >> Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should >> never get better than that. >> >> Mirrors to just cars and track >> >> Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less. >> This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see >> anyway. >> >> All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will >> actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with. >> >> Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance. >> >> Turm arms off, cockpit detail off, clouds can go. >> >> With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768 >> >> Regards >> >> Phillip McNelley >> >> >Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a >Creative Labs >> >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus >video card. >> >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'm >using the >> >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can >> >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you for your >> >assistance and help! >> > >> >> > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.

Agree with most comments below - I've just moved from V2 to V3 (2000) with a P3-450 and seen similar improvements. Detail slider does have a big effect as I tried moving it all the way to the right to see whta happened and fps dived. I still use the "mirrors patch" with mirror refressh rate at 1/3rd front view - extra forward fps is much more worthwhile. Also I set mirrors to cars and track only. Couple of other points - I found no significant fps change by moving from "all" objects to "many" - also found no significant improvements from overclocking to V3 (i.e. I'm not losing anything from having 2000 and not 3000 or 3500!) 1024x768 is no problem with practice. "back of grid at monte carlo" needs to OC CPU to around 550MHz to get 30+ fps at start. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Phillip McNelley) wrote:

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> Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should > never get better than that. > > Mirrors to just cars and track > > Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less. > This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see > anyway. > > All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will > actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with. > > Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance. > > Turm arms off, cockpit detail off, clouds can go. > > With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768 > > Regards > > Phillip McNelley > > >Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a

Creative Labs > >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP busvideo card. > >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'musing the > >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can > >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you for your > >assistance and help! > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Stop when you reach a solid 36fps during race with a full field. Reduce detail slider to half reduce details in mirrors Mirror refresh by half (where can I find that utillity?) skidmarks, smoke, sparks,.. off should be enough. Jens On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:22:04 GMT, [email hidden] (John Boles) wrote:

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>Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a Creative Labs >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus video card. >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'm using the >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you for your >assistance and help!

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Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should never get better than that. Mirrors to just cars and track Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less. This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see anyway. All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with. Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance. Turm arms off, cockpit detail off, clouds can go. With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768 Regards Phillip McNelley

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>Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a Creative Labs >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus video card. >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'm using the >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you for your >assistance and help! >

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>On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:17:51 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: > >I don't know how you have your pc configured but I have a pII 450 o/c >to 504mhz and a non o/c v3. I have solid 36fps all the way with the >detail slider about 20% to the left. I have all options on apart from >crowds, and drivers arms (it distracts me), and the mirrors are set to >show cars and track only. With 12 cars I am able to have the detail >slider all the way to the right with solid 36fps.

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I have done the tweaks below - except for the sparks and smoke and so on - and found great improvement in framerates THANK YOU I will now go and underclock my Voodoo 3 back to normal speed Thomas Soerensen GPL Enthusiast of Denmark In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Phillip McNelley) wrote:

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> Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should > never get better than that. > > Mirrors to just cars and track > > Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less. > This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see > anyway. > > All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will > actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with. > > Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance. > > Turm arms off, cockpit detail off, clouds can go. > > With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768 > > Regards > > Phillip McNelley > > >Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a

Creative Labs > >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP busvideo card. > >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'musing the > >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can > >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you foryour > >assistance and help! > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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> I have done the tweaks below - except for the sparks and smoke and so > on - and found great improvement in framerates > > THANK YOU > > I will now go and underclock my Voodoo 3 back to normal speed > > Thomas Soerensen > GPL Enthusiast of Denmark > > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Phillip McNelley) wrote: > > Depends what you're getting atm. GPL is fr locked at 36 so you should > > never get better than that. > > > > Mirrors to just cars and track > > > > Detail slider no more than about 1/4 the way from the left or less. > > This is a real frame rate killer but doesn't add much to what you see > > anyway. > > > > All momentary special effects off, smoke, dirt, etc. These things will > > actually blind you in races anyway. Not good to do serious races with. > > > > Spec. Highlights etc turned off too. Makes little differance. > > > > Turm arms off, cockpit detail off, clouds can go. > > > > With your system and the above you should be right at 1024x768 > > > > Regards > > > > Phillip McNelley > > > > >Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from a > Creative Labs > > >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP bus > video card. > > >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'm > using the > > >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can > > >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you for > your > > >assistance and help! > > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Disabling vsync makes a diff. As much as 10fps, but only 2 on mine. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (JS) wrote:

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> Stop when you reach a solid 36fps during race with a full field. > > Reduce detail slider to half > reduce details in mirrors > Mirror refresh by half (where can I find that utillity?) > skidmarks, smoke, sparks,.. off > > should be enough. > > Jens > > On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 00:22:04 GMT, [email hidden] (John Boles)

wrote: > > >Hello! I recently upgraded my 450 MHZ PII, 128 RAM system from aCreative Labs > > >Voodoo 2 PCI Bus 3D video card to the 3DFX Voodoo3 2D/3D AGP busvideo card. > >Frame rates improved approximately 25% in GPL with the upgrade. I'musing the

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> >latest drivers downloaded from 3DFX. Any tweakes/changes that I can > >make that can further improve frame rates in GPL? Thank you for your > >assistance and help! > > --------------------------------------------- > [email hidden] > Remove "NOSPAM" before using my email-address > > Visit my webpage at http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ for some

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