andretti dig racing wheel in NL anyone ??? ( GPL is the GAME )

Hello I was wondering if anybody in holland bought and used the andretti racing wheel ??? A few questions How do you like it ?? What did it cost ?? Where did you buy it ?? I'am interested in this dig technology !! Please tell me what you think THX

You can't dig with it! Andre

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>Hello > >I was wondering if anybody in holland bought and used the andretti racing >wheel ??? >A few questions > >How do you like it ?? >What did it cost ?? >Where did you buy it ?? > >I'am interested in this dig technology !! > >Please tell me what you think > >THX > > >

You can't dig with it! Andre

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LOL denk ik ??!?!?!?! Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws [email hidden]...

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> You can't dig with it! > > Andre > > >Hello > > > >I was wondering if anybody in holland bought and used the andretti racing > >wheel ??? > >A few questions > > > >How do you like it ?? > >What did it cost ?? > >Where did you buy it ?? > > > >I'am interested in this dig technology !! > > > >Please tell me what you think > > > >THX > > > > > > >

As well as other wheels, I have an Andretti Racing wheel. I'm not in Holland, but the wheel should be the same. It's an excellent wheel. Probably the best non FF wheel. My lap times actually dropped a couple days after I started using it. The wheel itself is not well padded like a CH EXL500, Act Labs or Logitech non FF, and has a little smaller grip than I'd like. The pedal unit is heavy and well made, but over engineered. The pots are gear driven by the pedal levers which is nice. It doesn't support split axis as far as I can tell, if that really matters. The pedal travel is too much with the last 1/4 of travel dead space. The pedal pads are hinged and sprung on the pedal levers (supposed to be more comfortable) and gave a false sense of where the pedal lever actually was. But, its easy to block the end of the pedal travel with rubbers erasers stuck behind the levers (they'll fit) or go inside the pedal base and put stoppers there. And I removed the pedal pads from the levers, disconnected one side of the pad spring, and tightened it down so the pads don't swivel on the levers. All this took about 1/2 hour. Now they are the best pedal unit I've ever used. And they look great too :) The steering tension is not heavy, I'd say medium to light, and the steering is very accurate. The stick shifter has great feel and a nice knob. It also has paddle shifters that use the same buttons as the stick shifter. Except for the pedals, its not the best looking wheel I've had or seen, but I like it because of what it does (accuracy) , and it is well made. Two things to note. The pedal pads are a smooth, non-slip surface that unfortunately works very well. You can't wear rubber soled shoes with them. Also, this wheel and the MS non FF USB wheel do not work in UBS mode with Nascar 3. Papy says its the MadCatz drivers, but they work in all other games just fine. So in Nascar 3, you'll have to use the game port. Slot Jinx wrote in message <83nobk$2027$[email hidden]>...

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>Hello > >I was wondering if anybody in holland bought and used the andretti racing >wheel ??? >A few questions > >How do you like it ?? >What did it cost ?? >Where did you buy it ?? > >I'am interested in this dig technology !! > >Please tell me what you think > >THX > > >

Hi slot Nou digital pedals ??? So only the steering wheel. I thought this wheel was completaly digital guess I was wrong GTX_SlotCar <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws JTO74.990$[email hidden]... > As well as other wheels, I have an Andretti Racing wheel. I'm not in > Holland, but the wheel should be the same. It's an excellent wheel.Probably snip > them. Also, this wheel and the MS non FF USB wheel do not work in UBS mode > with Nascar 3. Papy says its the MadCatz drivers, but they work in allother

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> games just fine. So in Nascar 3, you'll have to use the game port. > > Slot > > > Jinx wrote in message <83nobk$2027$[email hidden]>... > >Hello > > > >I was wondering if anybody in holland bought and used the andretti racing > >wheel ??? > >A few questions > > > >How do you like it ?? > >What did it cost ?? > >Where did you buy it ?? > > > >I'am interested in this dig technology !! > > > >Please tell me what you think > > > >THX > > > > > > > >

I agree with your terrific review. Just want to add a few things. I ended up removing the pedal pads and installed my old T1 roller pedals (personal preference). I also went down to my local hdw store and bought a couple of flat metal plates about 1/2X2 and screwed them into the top of the pedal travel slots to reduce the pedal travel and thus remove the dead spot in the upper limit of pedal travel. I run N3/NL/GPL fine in USB mode. It's a DX7.0 issue. Madcatz says 6 months or more for a new driver. I haven't tried DX7.0a yet, waiting till just before I need to re-install W98 next week before I try. The DXuninstaller utility failed miserably for me after my initial install of DX7.0 so be wary. I currently use DX6.1. Cant really go wrong for $70. Mitch GTX_SlotCar <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JTO74.990$[email hidden]... > As well as other wheels, I have an Andretti Racing wheel. I'm not in > Holland, but the wheel should be the same. It's an excellent wheel.Probably > the best non FF wheel. My lap times actually dropped a couple days after I > started using it. The wheel itself is not well padded like a CH EXL500,Act > Labs or Logitech non FF, and has a little smaller grip than I'd like. The > pedal unit is heavy and well made, but over engineered. The pots are gear > driven by the pedal levers which is nice. It doesn't support split axis as > far as I can tell, if that really matters. The pedal travel is too muchwith > the last 1/4 of travel dead space. The pedal pads are hinged and sprung on > the pedal levers (supposed to be more comfortable) and gave a false senseof > where the pedal lever actually was. But, its easy to block the end of the > pedal travel with rubbers erasers stuck behind the levers (they'll fit) or > go inside the pedal base and put stoppers there. And I removed the pedal > pads from the levers, disconnected one side of the pad spring, andtightened > it down so the pads don't swivel on the levers. All this took about 1/2 > hour. Now they are the best pedal unit I've ever used. And they look great > too :) The steering tension is not heavy, I'd say medium to light, andthe

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> steering is very accurate. The stick shifter has great feel and a nice > knob. It also has paddle shifters that use the same buttons as the stick > shifter. Except for the pedals, its not the best looking wheel I've had or > seen, but I like it because of what it does (accuracy) , and it is well > made. Two things to note. The pedal pads are a smooth, non-slip surface > that unfortunately works very well. You can't wear rubber soled shoes with > them. Also, this wheel and the MS non FF USB wheel do not work in UBS mode > with Nascar 3. Papy says its the MadCatz drivers, but they work in all

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> games just fine. So in Nascar 3, you'll have to use the game port. > > Slot > > > Jinx wrote in message <83nobk$2027$[email hidden]>... > >Hello > > > >I was wondering if anybody in holland bought and used the andretti racing > >wheel ??? > >A few questions > > > >How do you like it ?? > >What did it cost ?? > >Where did you buy it ?? > > > >I'am interested in this dig technology !! > > > >Please tell me what you think > > > >THX > > > > > > > >

Hey Mitch, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who likes to make good things "better". Also nice to see someone else pay attention to the dead travel space in pedals. Lots of guys on here have complained about not enough pedal travel on some units, but don't realize that most of the time this extra travel is just dead space. I thought of the metal strips to cover the end of the pedal slots, then wondered if the plastic cover would crack around the***holes from the beating it would take. Then I though, use one piece of metal long enough to cover both slots and secure it with several screws to even out the pressure when the pedals bang into it. I actually used the erasers for only a short time to test out the pedal function with reduced travel. Plus its easy and anyone can do it. Glueing flat nylon plastic on the bottom inside base under the levers also worked good and was easy. For my permant fix I ended up tapping a couple***holes in the base under the pedals levers. Short screws (ah, the power of a Dremell Tool) are screwed in and adjusted and then Loc-Tited to hold the adjustment. A bit overboard?? Slot >I agree with your terrific review. Just want to add a few things. I ended >up removing the pedal pads and installed my old T1 roller pedals (personal >preference). I also went down to my local hdw store and bought a couple of >flat metal plates about 1/2X2 and screwed them into the top of the pedal >travel slots to reduce the pedal travel and thus remove the dead spot in the

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>upper limit of pedal travel. I run N3/NL/GPL fine in USB mode. It's a >DX7.0 issue. Madcatz says 6 months or more for a new driver. I haven't >tried DX7.0a yet, waiting till just before I need to re-install W98 next >week before I try. The DXuninstaller utility failed miserably for me after >my initial install of DX7.0 so be wary. I currently use DX6.1. >Cant really go wrong for $70. >Mitch >> As well as other wheels, I have an Andretti Racing wheel. I'm not in >> Holland, but the wheel should be the same. It's an excellent wheel. >Probably >> the best non FF wheel. My lap times actually dropped a couple days after

I >> started using it. The wheel itself is not well padded like a CH EXL500, >Act >> Labs or Logitech non FF, and has a little smaller grip than I'd like. The >> pedal unit is heavy and well made, but over engineered. The pots are gear >> driven by the pedal levers which is nice. It doesn't support split axis as >> far as I can tell, if that really matters. The pedal travel is too much >with >> the last 1/4 of travel dead space. The pedal pads are hinged and sprung on >> the pedal levers (supposed to be more comfortable) and gave a false sense >of >> where the pedal lever actually was. But, its easy to block the end of the >> pedal travel with ***s erasers stuck behind the levers (they'll fit) or >> go inside the pedal base and put stoppers there. And I removed the pedal >> pads from the levers, disconnected one side of the pad spring, and >tightened >> it down so the pads don't swivel on the levers. All this took about 1/2 >> hour. Now they are the best pedal unit I've ever used. And they look great >> too :) The steering tension is not heavy, I'd say medium to light, and >the >> steering is very accurate. The stick shifter has great feel and a nice >> knob. It also has paddle shifters that use the same buttons as the stick >> shifter. Except for the pedals, its not the best looking wheel I've had or >> seen, but I like it because of what it does (accuracy) , and it is well >> made. Two things to note. The pedal pads are a smooth, non-slip surface >> that unfortunately works very well. You can't wear *** soled shoes with >> them. Also, this wheel and the MS non FF USB wheel do not work in UBS mode

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>> with Nascar 3. Papy says its the MadCatz drivers, but they work in all >other >> games just fine. So in Nascar 3, you'll have to use the game port. >> Slot >> >Hello >> >I was wondering if anybody in holland bought and used the andretti

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>> >wheel ??? >> >A few questions >> >How do you like it ?? >> >What did it cost ?? >> >Where did you buy it ?? >> >I'am interested in this dig technology !! >> >Please tell me what you think >> >THX

Oh, about DX7. USB and the Andretti Wheel with DX7 works on all my other games, every single one. It just doen't work with Nascar3. Also, I've talked to people using the combo with DX6.1 and their's don't work either, so I don't think its got anything to do with DX7. Papy did say its the MadCatz drivers but I doubted this since the drivers work in all the other games and since the MS USB wheel also has problems with N3. But, since your's works, maybe there's another factor involved, like video card drivers, network cards, motherboards, or something else thrown into the equation. Or it may in fact be that the MadCatz and MS drivers have some little quirk that N3 doens't like. Hmmm, but then, why does your's work with DX6.1 and others' don't? Got me puzzled. Slot

>Damn. It's hard to keep the concentration up for two hours. It's VERY hard. I've never finished one. I have tried several times but after 60-80 percent of the race I start to loose concentration and I go off and get a bent suspension or other stuff. And it's no fun driving a car like that for the reminder of the race. Especially not if you have FF and have to hold on to the wheel like crazy. Record is 101 laps at the Glen out of 108... :( /Martin Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Yesterday I completed a 68 lap GP race at Monza for the first time. Before, my engine would allways blow up after a lap or 30. I adjusted my driving style, which costed my tenths of seconds every lap, but at least I could finish the race. On lap 68 I was in third position, Clark being first, 30 seconds ahead, and Gurney second, 12 seconds ahead of me. At least my name would be mentioned in the newspaper. And given that I spinned 4 times during the race, without damage, I was very pleased with this result. Ok, last lap: Exiting 2nd lesmo, I suddenly saw a white flag. Before I knew it, I rammed a Ferrari who was driving very slowly just after the bridge. I got heavy car damage, my steering went wild, and a wheel broke off. I got back on the track and made it to the finish, but I had dropped to the 8th position.... Damn. It's hard to keep the concentration up for two hours. Going to try again tonight :) Andre

Just interested, are you running with the AI tweaked or "hyped"? James Larson Omaha, Nebraska, USA

I didn't touch the AI, so it's hyped. That's why Clark and Gurney keep dirving better than me, as soon as I improve, they improve too. Hill would have been faster than me too, but he got engine problems after a couple of laps. I think it's competely fair to turn the hype off, but I like the hype, I like it when Clark keeps beating me, it makes me push my car to the limits more and more. The only problem I have with the AI is that they can race far too fast with cold tires and a full fuel tank, my tactic is to start first and block them in every way I can. After a lap or 3 my tires are warm enough to match their laptimes. Often I let Hill and Clark pass, when they are too close to me. After a lap or 40, my laptimes are about half a second faster than theirs, and I can catch up on them quite easily. The biggest problem of the AI is the problem they have with overtaking other cars. On Monaco this is a real disaster, you can win there with your eyes closed, since all the fast guys are being old up by the slower cars. That's why I love racing on Monza, the AI doesn't have the overtaking problem there so much. Another problem with the AI is a bug imho. Sometimes an AI car has engine problems, but he doesn't enter the pits, he just keeps on driving. This caused my crash yesterday on the 68th lap, the ferrari I crashed with was allready 20 laps behind! In the next patch (?) the AI should be taken of the track if their laptimes are way below normal lap times, or if they are more than 4 laps behind. Andre

That's why you hit the 'pause' key every so often. We have a luxury that real drivers don't have. We can get up and stretch our legs...<g> Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

No pause key, that option is the only option that Papy should have left out! :) Ok, it can be quite handy sometimes when the phone rings or your hamster is on fire, but when I drive a full race, I take the hook of the phone and close all curtains. The biggest challenge of a full GP is to keep the concentration up for 2 hours. I think it's amazing that real f1 drivers can concentrate so long. After a lap or 30, my mind starts to wander, my lap times drop, and I really have to concentrate myself very hard to keep up. All part of the game. All part of the sim I mean :) Andre

Well done, I've been running some full length races in NL over Christmas, and I can appreciate the effort you have put in. It does seem a bit ***ive though, don' t you think? Some how the bleary eye, dead beat, endurance aspect adds a whole lot of adrenalin, once its all over! I bet A J Foyt (or Jim Clark) couldn't sip a Coke though, or am I cheating? Steve :-)

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>Yesterday I completed a 68 lap GP race at Monza for the first time. >Before, my engine would allways blow up after a lap or 30. I adjusted >my driving style, which costed my tenths of seconds every lap, but at >least I could finish the race. >On lap 68 I was in third position, Clark being first, 30 seconds >ahead, and Gurney second, 12 seconds ahead of me. >At least my name would be mentioned in the newspaper. And given that I >spinned 4 times during the race, without damage, I was very pleased >with this result. >Ok, last lap: Exiting 2nd lesmo, I suddenly saw a white flag. Before I >knew it, I rammed a Ferrari who was driving very slowly just after the >bridge. I got heavy car damage, my steering went wild, and a wheel >broke off. I got back on the track and made it to the finish, but I >had dropped to the 8th position.... >Damn. It's hard to keep the concentration up for two hours. >Going to try again tonight :) >Andre

Dan Guerney, he never usually lasts 10 laps before breaking down in the offline races that I have, he is usually the first to have car probs. Anyone else have the same driver, be it Guerney or Bandini or any other AI driver be the first to become a casualty in medium to GP races?? Capp

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>Yesterday I completed a 68 lap GP race at Monza for the first time. >Before, my engine would allways blow up after a lap or 30. I adjusted >my driving style, which costed my tenths of seconds every lap, but at >least I could finish the race. >On lap 68 I was in third position, Clark being first, 30 seconds >ahead, and Gurney second, 12 seconds ahead of me. >At least my name would be mentioned in the newspaper. And given that I >spinned 4 times during the race, without damage, I was very pleased >with this result. >Ok, last lap: Exiting 2nd lesmo, I suddenly saw a white flag. Before I >knew it, I rammed a Ferrari who was driving very slowly just after the >bridge. I got heavy car damage, my steering went wild, and a wheel >broke off. I got back on the track and made it to the finish, but I >had dropped to the 8th position.... >Damn. It's hard to keep the concentration up for two hours. >Going to try again tonight :) >Andre

Well....We drive GPLengths online in the league(found in following URL) and......we surely don't have the luxury to press pause there.... and you know what? that is _the thing_ that makes it the best league in my books ;) http://www.snafu.de/~xoph/

Well, to be honest, I smoke cigarettes during those 2 hour races, I don't think Clark did that during his races ;) Andre

No, the AI casualties seem completely random to me. Afaik you can tweak the ai damage chances per driver with AItweak, perhaps you have used that? Andre

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>Dan Guerney, he never usually lasts 10 laps before breaking down in the >offline races that I have, he is usually the first to have car probs. >Anyone else have the same driver, be it Guerney or Bandini or any other AI >driver be the first to become a casualty in medium to GP races?? >Capp

Cool site, some very nice 'how to complete GP races' lessons! Andre

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>No pause key, that option is the only option that Papy should have >left out! :) >Ok, it can be quite handy sometimes when the phone rings or your >hamster is on fire, but when I drive a full race, I take the hook of >the phone and close all curtains. The biggest challenge of a full GP >is to keep the concentration up for 2 hours. >I think it's amazing that real f1 drivers can concentrate so long. >After a lap or 30, my mind starts to wander, my lap times drop, and I >really have to concentrate myself very hard to keep up. >All part of the game. >All part of the sim I mean :) >Andre >>That's why you hit the 'pause' key every so often. We have a luxury that >real >>drivers don't have. We can get up and stretch our legs...<g> >>Eldred

I *suppose* I could run it without breaks. I have an answering machine, and don't own a hamster<g>. But you're right - the concentration required is intense. You must not be married, Andre. I can't imagine a spouse not bothering you at SOME point during the race. I'm single and live alone, so I could get away with it. Maybe for the New Year...:-) Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>> That's why you hit the 'pause' key every so often. We have a luxury that >real >> drivers don't have. We can get up and stretch our legs...<g> >> Eldred >Well....We drive GPLengths online in the league(found in following URL) >and......we surely don't have the luxury to press pause there.... and you >know what? that is _the thing_ that makes it the best league in my books ;) >http://www.snafu.de/~xoph/

Well, I was assuming he meant offline. I realize that's not an option in online racing. GP length online? That's crazy enough that it sounds interesting. But, I'm probably not good enough to get into the league... :-( Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Own Grand Prix Legends? Goto http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Update to this post: The last time I loaded win98 with DX6.1, N3 did see the Andretti wheel in USB mode. Upgrading to DX7a (without going to DX7 first) and it still works. Go figure. Slot >Oh, about DX7. USB and the Andretti Wheel with DX7 works on all my other >games, every single one. It just doen't work with Nascar3. Also, I've talked >to people using the combo with DX6.1 and their's don't work either, so I >don't think its got anything to do with DX7. Papy did say its the MadCatz >drivers but I doubted this since the drivers work in all the other games and

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>since the MS USB wheel also has problems with N3. But, since your's works, >maybe there's another factor involved, like video card drivers, network >cards, motherboards, or something else thrown into the equation. Or it may >in fact be that the MadCatz and MS drivers have some little quirk that N3 >doens't like. Hmmm, but then, why does your's work with DX6.1 and others' >don't? >Got me puzzled. >Slot