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Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and driving simulator combination that allows the steering wheel to be turned through more than 360 degrees. Ta Mark Charlesworth Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Yes that's what he means That would be cool if someone could rig a set of gears up so that the wheel turns more than the steering shaft. dunno how it could be done though. CA -- =============================== Chris Arndt 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up Up "All I can do on a given day is put myself in a position to win, and let circumstances dictate the outcome" -Richard Petty http://CArndt.tripod.com Leaky_Valve <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > There aren't any more than 360 degrees! > Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution > lock-to-lock? > > [email hidden] wrote: > > > Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and > > driving simulator combination that allows the > > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360 > > degrees. > > > > Ta > > > > Mark Charlesworth > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----

There aren't any more than 360 degrees! Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution lock-to-lock? [email hidden] wrote:

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> Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and > driving simulator combination that allows the > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360 > degrees. > > Ta > > Mark Charlesworth > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

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What would be the reason for this, Chris.......to replicate the lock-to-lock on a NASCAR or tourer? Chris Arndt wrote:

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> Yes that's what he means > > That would be cool if someone could rig a set of gears up so that the wheel > turns more than the steering shaft. dunno how it could be done though. > > CA > > -- > =============================== > Chris Arndt > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up Up > "All I can do on a given day is put myself > in a position to win, and let circumstances > dictate the outcome" > -Richard Petty > http://CArndt.tripod.com > > Leaky_Valve <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > There aren't any more than 360 degrees! > > Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution > > lock-to-lock? > > > > [email hidden] wrote: > > > > > Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and > > > driving simulator combination that allows the > > > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360 > > > degrees. > > > > > > Ta > > > > > > Mark Charlesworth > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > > > > > > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > ==---------- > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! > > ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers > ==-----

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First of all sorry for any confusion caused. Yes I did meant a wheel and simulator combination that allows the wheel to be turned through more than one complete revolution lock to lock. My main reason for wanting this is to allow me practice pull-push steering, etc. as advised in 'Roadcraft - The Police Driver's Handbook' for the UK Institute of Advanced Motorists test. This is to allow me to unlearn bad habit and learn good habits for real world driving in a safe simulated driving environment. I would also think that with the correct software control to allow various setting for different vehicles this would add to the realism of simulated driving experiences 'just for fun'. If this sort of wheel and simulator combination already exist please let me know. Thanks again, Mark Charlesworth > What would be the reason for this, Chris.......to replicate the lock-to-lock on

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> a NASCAR or tourer? > > Yes that's what he means > > That would be cool if someone could rig a set of gears up so that

the wheel > > turns more than the steering shaft. dunno how it could be done though.

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> > CA > > -- > > =============================== > > Chris Arndt > > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion > > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up Up > > "All I can do on a given day is put myself > > in a position to win, and let circumstances > > dictate the outcome" > > -Richard Petty > > http://CArndt.tripod.com > > > There aren't any more than 360 degrees! > > > Or do you mean something that is more than one complete revolution > > > lock-to-lock? > > > > Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and > > > > driving simulator combination that allows the > > > > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360 > > > > degrees. > > > > Ta > > > > Mark Charlesworth > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > Before you buy. > > > -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News > > ==---------- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in

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: My main reason for wanting this is to allow me practice pull-push : steering, etc. as advised in 'Roadcraft - The Police Driver's Handbook' : for the UK Institute of Advanced Motorists test. This is to allow me to : unlearn bad habit and learn good habits for real world driving in a safe : simulated driving environment. I would also think that with the correct : software control to allow various setting for different vehicles this : would add to the realism of simulated driving experiences 'just for : fun'. By pull-push, do you mean shuffling the wheel through a turn, i.e. never crossing your hands? If so, I thought this was now (rightly) out of fashion with most police forces in the UK. When I was there in the summer, there was a big article about how this technique had resulted in many accidents involving cruisers, especially as the speeds rise with the advent of Subaru Impreza WRC pursuit vehicles. Many forces are now advocating a technique that involves crossing over the hands when using more than, say, 120 degrees of lock. If this is what you actually mean, then ignore my reply :) Stephen

The 1998 edition of Roadcraft that I have suggests 'rotational steering' which involves crossing over the hands, is appropriate in 'certain circumstance for example ... high speed manoeuvres' as well as 'pull-push'. Both appear to be intended to applied systematically to maintain maximum safety in particular circumstance, rather than the lazy bad habits that I have got into. I still wonder if there are any wheel and simulator combinations that allow more than one complete rotation of the wheel, or at least which wheel(s) allow the greatest number of degrees to be turned. Ta Mark Charlesworth > : My main reason for wanting this is to allow me practice pull-push > : steering, etc. as advised in 'Roadcraft - The Police Driver's Handbook' > : for the UK Institute of Advanced Motorists test. This is to allow me to > : unlearn bad habit and learn good habits for real world driving in a safe > : simulated driving environment. I would also think that with the correct > : software control to allow various setting for different vehicles this > : would add to the realism of simulated driving experiences 'just for > : fun'. > By pull-push, do you mean shuffling the wheel through a turn, i.e. never > crossing your hands? If so, I thought this was now (rightly) out of > fashion with most police forces in the UK. When I was there in the > summer, there was a big article about how this technique had resulted in > many accidents involving cruisers, especially as the speeds rise with the > advent of Subaru Impreza WRC pursuit vehicles. Many forces are now > advocating a technique that involves crossing over the hands when using > more than, say, 120 degrees of lock. If this is what you actually mean, > then ignore my reply :) > Stephen Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

: The 1998 edition of Roadcraft that I have suggests 'rotational steering' : which involves crossing over the hands, is appropriate in 'certain : circumstance for example ... high speed manoeuvres' as well as : 'pull-push'. Both appear to be intended to applied systematically to : maintain maximum safety in particular circumstance, rather than the lazy : bad habits that I have got into. Seems odd to teach two different techniques when basic driving skills should be instinctive. "Rotational steering" is the standard in North America, Germany, and Switzerland (the only countries I have experience with). Yes, off topic, and I'm not sure about your wheel question. I haven't seen one before, but perhaps it would be possible to modify a wheel. When I opened my old Thrustmaster, the lock was limited by some stops which could be modified. A rotational potentiometer usually has more travel than is used by the wheels, so that shouldn't be a problem. Stephen

More to the point, is there any way I can make full lock to lock only 270 degrees on my road car? : )))) -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends | Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and | driving simulator combination that allows the | steering wheel to be turned through more than 360 | degrees. | | Ta | | Mark Charlesworth | | | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ | Before you buy.

Just mount your computer table on casters, bolt the wheel to the table and voila <G> MS

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> Does anybody know of a PC steering wheel and > driving simulator combination that allows the > steering wheel to be turned through more than 360 > degrees. > Ta > Mark Charlesworth > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

The hyperstimulator manages to get 1 1/2 or so rotations, just the limit before you need to take your hands off the wheel ie arms crossed up. They are a little expensive ($AUS 2000 or so) and also dont have a fully circular wheel, so they don't suit your interests well. They are fantastic to use, giving you full lock when you need it (Monaco hairpins) and sensitivity whilst on the straights and fast corners. Since almost all pots are limited to about 320 -340 degrees, I don't know how they do it, but I'm sure the money may have something to do with it... R Mc * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!