Re: GPL and Matrox G400 ??????

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:06:08 GMT, "Peter Prochazka" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm reading RAS regularly (and the Apex forum) and I can't remember one >single post in which somebody said, he got GPL working with the G400. There >were only questions like 'how can I get GPL working with the G400'. So I I think theres a patch or fix over at the matrox \ games \ patches web page * Joe_Blow *

I'm reading RAS regularly (and the Apex forum) and I can't remember one single post in which somebody said, he got GPL working with the G400. There were only questions like 'how can I get GPL working with the G400'. So I suppose, there are a lot of problems with GPL and G400.(can't tell for sure, since I'm on a V3 3000). BTW, what do you mean by saying you don't like the 2D perfomance of the V3? Maybe there are cards with faster 2D, but V3's is definately adequate to everyday needs. If you are looking for a card that runs GPL well, I can only recommend a V3 (and it runs everything else well too). GPL is written for 3dfx (Glide) and any card that doesn't support it natively (and the G400 doesn't, AFAIK) will cause problems and will run it slower than a Voodoo. Peter Vienna, Austria Mad <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 7ud9lo$1h2e$[email hidden]...

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> Hi Guys > > I'am looking for a new graphics card > A friend of mine said that the G400 was a super card and worked good with > GPL. > He didn't know framerates because he didn't own GPL > > How about it .... any comments / experience ???? > > I don't like the V3 2d performance and TNT2 gives bad framerate ( in car ) > > Thanks in advance > > Glenn > >

V3? The G400 has some advantages such as the Dual-Head feature for multiple monitor/tv support from one card. With the Marvel version, it has really good video editing features, etc. V3 3500 does some of that, but not as much. Maybe his needs are NOT everyday needs. No, that is incorrect. GPL supports, as a retail product, both the Glide (3dfx) and Rendition cards through rasterizers along with its own software rasterizer. Through a beta patch from Papyrus, GPL also supports [to varying degrees of success] an OpenGL rasterizer thats basically tuned for the Nvidia TNT [and TNT2 cards it turns out] OpenGL drivers. Btw, no cards other than those that use the various 3dfx chipsets support Glide natively.

> BTW, what do you mean by saying you don't like the 2D perfomance of theV3? The G400 has some advantages such as the Dual-Head feature for multiple monitor/tv support from one card. With the Marvel version, it has really good video editing features, etc. V3 3500 does some of that, but not as much. > Maybe there are cards with faster 2D, but V3's is definately adequate to > everyday needs. Maybe his needs are NOT everyday needs. > If you are looking for a card that runs GPL well, I can only recommend aV3 > (and it runs everything else well too). GPL is written for 3dfx (Glide)and > any card that doesn't support it natively (and the G400 doesn't, AFAIK)will > cause problems and will run it slower than a Voodoo. No, that is incorrect. GPL supports, as a retail product, both the Glide (3dfx) and Rendition cards through rasterizers along with its own software rasterizer. Through a beta patch from Papyrus, GPL also supports [to varying degrees of success] an OpenGL rasterizer thats basically tuned for the Nvidia TNT [and TNT2 cards it turns out] OpenGL drivers. Btw, no cards other than those that use the various 3dfx chipsets support Glide natively.

Joe_Blow <[email hidden]> schrieb > I think theres a patch or fix over at the matrox \ games \ patches web > page I think this is for the G200 (?) and won't work with the G400, but I don't know exactly... Peter Vienna, Austria

Chris "Hollywood" Schletter <[email hidden]> schrieb

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> > BTW, what do you mean by saying you don't like the 2D perfomance of the > V3? > > The G400 has some advantages such as the Dual-Head feature for multiple > monitor/tv support from one card. With the Marvel version, it has really > good video editing features, etc. V3 3500 does some of that, but not as > much. > > > Maybe there are cards with faster 2D, but V3's is definately adequate to > > everyday needs. > > Maybe his needs are NOT everyday needs.

OK, I didn't know about these gadges of the G400, and maybe 'Mad' needs this stuff. I just wanted to point out that there may be problems with the G400 regarding GPL. > > > If you are looking for a card that runs GPL well, I can only recommenda

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> V3 > > (and it runs everything else well too). GPL is written for 3dfx (Glide) > and > > any card that doesn't support it natively (and the G400 doesn't, AFAIK) > will > > cause problems and will run it slower than a Voodoo. > > No, that is incorrect. GPL supports, as a retail product, both the Glide > (3dfx) and Rendition cards through rasterizers along with its own software > rasterizer. Through a beta patch from Papyrus, GPL also supports [to > varying degrees of success] an OpenGL rasterizer thats basically tuned for > the Nvidia TNT [and TNT2 cards it turns out] OpenGL drivers.

Yep, I know that. But I don't think, that 'Mad' wants to buy a Rendition now (I don't think that Rendition's 2D is better than a V3's and it's a little bit outdated). AFAIK, the OpenGL rasterizer for the TNT(2) (or the TNT driver ?) has problems with the mirrors in GPL and that reduces your framerate (in car). If you want to run GPL problem-free at max framerate and want to have an up-to-date card, there seems to be no way around a V3 currently. > Btw, no cards other than those that use the various 3dfx chipsets support > Glide natively. That's what I thought, now I'm sure. Thanx! Peter Vienna, Austria

How did he know it worked well since he didn't own it nor did he know frame rate results? Marc.