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Re: you guys are too much 600mhz

37 posts by 19 people · 12 Oct 1999 - 23 Oct 1999

Flame warPentium III owner hits back at critics

Morris Jones objected to the rude replies to his new-PC post, which drew further mockery and a sharp, profane exchange led by Antti Markus Peteri. Other posters discussed Athlon versus Pentium III performance in GPL and the lack of Athlon motherboards from ASUS.

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WiNoJoE 12 Oct 1999#292833
If you really loved your wife and family, you would buy THEM the new computer and make do yourself with the "old" one. But that's OK Morris, we know how you are... Morris Jones Jr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Make one simple post about getting a new system, and everyonehas to > make > rude remarks about it. I did not say anything was wrong with my400 > machine > I am only getting the new one so my wife and family will have acomputer > too. > not that it should be any of you guys business why I am gettinga new > one. > I was just looking forward to running N3 and GPL on it > Sorry for the post. > > -- ,,, '' "Have you beered YOUR cat today?" '' '' ,,,'''',,, '' ,,''''''''''''''',, '' /\.../\''''''''''''''''''''',, ,,'' ( o o )'''''''''''''''''''''''''' I used to === ^ === ''''''''''''''''''''' have a cat \ o /''''''' '''''''' named Morris... ''' ''''' '''''' .. / '''' WiNoJoE '''' []o O .. ''' c/o ''' \/|\_o[] '' madrulli@ '' | '' airmail.net '' / \ '' '' ._/ \_. WW WW ,,, ,,,
Morris Jones 12 Oct 1999 22:01 UTC#292815
Make one simple post about getting a new system, and everyone has to make rude remarks about it. I did not say anything was wrong with my 400 machine I am only getting the new one so my wife and family will have a computer too. not that it should be any of you guys business why I am getting a new one. I was just looking forward to running N3 and GPL on it Sorry for the post.
Bob Curtin 13 Oct 1999#292546
Oh, of course! What am I thinking!! Ian Parker wrote:
Quoted text (32 lines)> Because real sports cars are made in Italy !!! ;) > > -- > Ian Parker > [email hidden] > UKGPL League > http://www.btinternet.com/~ukgpl/index.html > -- > Bob Curtin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Christer Andersson wrote: > > > > > /Chrille, I wont post here when I've ordered my Ferrari F355 Spider... > Well > > > okay, I might, cause I'm only human, but I wont get upset if you get > rude... > > > Okay, I might that too, cause again - I'm only human ;o) > > > > > > > Only a Ferrari F355? Why not a Ruf Porsche? It's faster. > > > > -- > > Bob Curtin > > Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange > > http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ > > "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, > baggy > > skin" > > > >
-- Bob Curtin Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy skin"
Ian Parker 13 Oct 1999#292598
Because real sports cars are made in Italy !!! ;) -- Ian Parker [email hidden] UKGPL League http://www.btinternet.com/~ukgpl/index.html -- Bob Curtin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Christer Andersson wrote: > > > /Chrille, I wont post here when I've ordered my Ferrari F355 Spider... Well > > okay, I might, cause I'm only human, but I wont get upset if you get rude... > > Okay, I might that too, cause again - I'm only human ;o) > > > > Only a Ferrari F355? Why not a Ruf Porsche? It's faster. > > -- > Bob Curtin > Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange > http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ > "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy > skin" > >
Mark D 13 Oct 1999#292637
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Antti Markus Peteri) wrote: > Well whaddya think? > Because someone has to tell him, since he obviously doesn't know. > Like you just now. > Antti Markus Peteri He -needs- to know that we don't care because....? I've read God knows how many posts that I don't care about as I trawl through usenet but don't feel the need to respond to them all. If you don't calm down soon you'll end up on a cardiac ward, and we'll all miss that friendly, warm tone of yours ;-) Cheers Mark Reading, UK Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Bob Curtin 13 Oct 1999#292651
Christer Andersson wrote: > /Chrille, I wont post here when I've ordered my Ferrari F355 Spider... Well > okay, I might, cause I'm only human, but I wont get upset if you get rude... > Okay, I might that too, cause again - I'm only human ;o) > Only a Ferrari F355? Why not a Ruf Porsche? It's faster. -- Bob Curtin Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy skin"
Morris, don't be so thin-skinned! If you are going to post a "I'm getting a new....." message then expect some good-natured flak. It's called "envy"!! :o) BK Morris Jones Jr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Make one simple post about getting a new system, and everyone has to > make > rude remarks about it. I did not say anything was wrong with my 400 > machine > I am only getting the new one so my wife and family will have a computer > too. > not that it should be any of you guys business why I am getting a new > one. > I was just looking forward to running N3 and GPL on it > Sorry for the post. > >
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Then why did you respond to this recent post? Antti Markus Peteri <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > [email hidden] says... > > Exactly, now you've got the point! It's not our business. > We don't fuckin' care. -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
Why didn't you ask us which puter to buy before you went away and bought the overprized P3? I think a post about what puter to buy to run auto simulators best is much better than a post about what puter already bought, unless you have questions about the new puter. For example if you had asked if your new P3 600 will run GPL and N3 faster than the cheaper Athlon 600, then we could have answered - No, the Athlon 600 is probably faster... Ask here first, then buy, not the other way around. Your current strategy is probably one of the reasons why you had a P2 400 before instead of an overclocked Celeron 300A. If you want to tell someone you bought a new puter, tell your friends, not this NG... unless you have a question about it :o). If you post it here we might think you have no friends, which is okay of course, but if you have needs like having to tell someone you bought a new puter, then you should get some friends. /Chrille, I wont post here when I've ordered my Ferrari F355 Spider... Well okay, I might, cause I'm only human, but I wont get upset if you get rude... Okay, I might that too, cause again - I'm only human ;o) Morris Jones Jr wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (12 lines)>Make one simple post about getting a new system, and everyone has to >make >rude remarks about it. I did not say anything was wrong with my 400 >machine >I am only getting the new one so my wife and family will have a computer >too. >not that it should be any of you guys business why I am getting a new >one. >I was just looking forward to running N3 and GPL on it >Sorry for the post. > >
Antti Markus Peteri 13 Oct 1999 00:24 UTC#292759
[email hidden] says...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > Make one simple post about getting a new system, and everyone has to > make rude remarks about it. I did not say anything was wrong with my > 400 machine. I am only getting the new one so my wife and family will > have a computer too. Not that it should be any of you guys business > why I am getting a new one. I was just looking forward to running N3 > and GPL on it. Sorry for the post. >
Exactly, now you've got the point! It's not our business. We don't fuckin' care. So don't apologize, no reason to. It's just that 99,999% of the people here couldn't care less. The 0,001% covering you plus any of your relatives gaining something from your recent investment. That's the Way of the World, Morris. --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Jalo 13 Oct 1999 02:50 UTC#292778
> Make one simple post about getting a new system, and everyone has to > make > rude remarks about it. I did not say anything was wrong with my 400 > machine Don't be upset, I kinda thought "only 600". With the Athlon 700 out, I thought I'd see one of those "I can't wait for my 700 to get here" post. I had a PIII 450, and it was not the greatest chip for GPL (at the start of a full race it was slow), and my old PIII was faster than your 400, so, you will see a difference at the start of races. Oh and by the way, who cares what your going to do with the old computer, out with the old, in with the new.
pqt2 13 Oct 1999 02:57 UTC#292780
A little thin -skinned aren't we? Lighten up, this is just a news group. Paul Morris Jones Jr wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> Make one simple post about getting a new system, and everyone has to > make > rude remarks about it. I did not say anything was wrong with my 400 > machine > I am only getting the new one so my wife and family will have a computer > too. > not that it should be any of you guys business why I am getting a new > one. > I was just looking forward to running N3 and GPL on it > Sorry for the post.
Antti Markus Peteri 13 Oct 1999 08:16 UTC#292716
[email hidden] says...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > > > Exactly, now you've got the point! It's not our business. > > We don't fuckin' care. > > > > Then why did you respond to this recent post? >
Well whaddya think? Because someone has to tell him, since he obviously doesn't know. Like you just now. --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Then why did you respond to this recent post? > Exactly, now you've got the point! It's not our business. > We don't ***in' care. -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- http://www.newsfeeds.com The Largest Usenet Servers in the World! ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including Dedicated Binaries Servers ==-----
Bob Curtin 13 Oct 1999#498293
Oh, of course! What am I thinking!!
Quoted text (29 lines)> Because real sports cars are made in Italy !!! ;) > -- > Ian Parker > UKGPL League > http://www.btinternet.com/~ukgpl/index.html > -- > > > /Chrille, I wont post here when I've ordered my Ferrari F355 Spider... > Well > > > okay, I might, cause I'm only human, but I wont get upset if you get > rude... > > > Okay, I might that too, cause again - I'm only human ;o) > > Only a Ferrari F355? Why not a Ruf Porsche? It's faster. > > -- > > Bob Curtin > > Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange > > http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ > > "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, > baggy > > skin"
-- Bob Curtin Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy skin"
Antti Markus Peteri 13 Oct 1999 15:14 UTC#292669
[email hidden] says... > > He -needs- to know that we don't care because....? > Well, aren't you the brilliant one... So that next time he'll know better, and instead of Usenet hellholes he'll direct the news to his friends and closest ones who genuinely do care, and get the response he could welcome, rather than the less understanding concerto which only seemed to disappoint him. Of course, anyone can post just about anything they wish to this ng - as you can see - but the point was that since Morris was a bit upset about the reception of his undeniably quite innocent & enthusiastic message, he would be well adviced to keep those kind of news to himself and his friends. And those with a thicker skin... just keep posting whatever you want, makes very little difference to either party. What I did was point out what I perceived to be the simple, albeit harsh reasons for the group's reactions. > > I've read God knows how many posts that I don't care about as I trawl > through usenet but don't feel the need to respond to them all. > Good for you. Neither do I. On average I post one message to each 600-800 messages I've read. Consider yourself exceptionally unlucky. OTOH, luck has nothing to do with it, almost everyone pays most attention to messages in which their own words are questioned. I'm not an exception, even if the actual subject has become most insignificant. > > If you don't calm down soon you'll end up on a cardiac ward, and we'll > all miss that friendly, warm tone of yours ;-) > I'll take whatever comes my way, be it a cardiac arrest. I do have an inborn heart murmur and arrhytmia but that has never stopped me from expressing my opinions the way I see fit. I rather die knowing that I've done it my way than live as the one who kneels. The record shows, I took the blows, as the classic says. --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Thomas JS Brown 13 Oct 1999 16:13 UTC#292682
tick tick tick.....
Quoted text (12 lines)> I'll take whatever comes my way, be it a cardiac arrest. I do have an > inborn heart murmur and arrhytmia but that has never stopped me from > expressing my opinions the way I see fit. I rather die knowing that I've > done it my way than live as the one who kneels. The record shows, I took > the blows, as the classic says. > > --- > Antti Markus Peteri > > 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away > > - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Antti Markus Peteri 13 Oct 1999 17:19 UTC#292595
[email hidden] says... > > tick tick tick..... > Back at you pal, I don't see you fooling the grim reaper either, no matter how tiny flame you've got. Wouldn't want it any other way, for that matter. --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Thomas JS Brown 13 Oct 1999 17:49 UTC#292599
Ever tried decaf?? Antti Markus Peteri wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> [email hidden] says... > > > > tick tick tick..... > > > > Back at you pal, I don't see you fooling the grim reaper either, no > matter how tiny flame you've got. Wouldn't want it any other way, for > that matter. > > --- > Antti Markus Peteri > > 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away > > - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Antti Markus Peteri 13 Oct 1999 18:39 UTC#292607
[email hidden] says... > > Ever tried decaf?? > Can't say I have, don't care much for coffee. Ever tried waking up? --- Antti Markus Peteri 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken
Mitch_A 13 Oct 1999 20:44 UTC#292628
Christer, Why in the world would someone ask you for an opinion only to hear as a response "Probably"? The AMD part may be faster on some of the "fixed" benchmarks, but we'll see how it fares upon widespread adoption. It really makes no difference whatsoever if a CPU is faster if it miserably fails software/hardware compatablility. We know the P3's are fully compatable now, not the "what if" of the Athlon. Morris, Pay no mind to some of the responses you recieved. Annononymity equals bravery in an online forum. Take many of the same "flamers" in a one to one confrontation and they will cower behind mommies shirt tail :-) Enjoy that new "Kickin" system! Mitch Christer Andersson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Why didn't you ask us which puter to buy before you went away and boughtthe > overprized P3? >No, the Athlon 600 is probably faster... > > Ask here first, then buy
In article <hraN3.1441$[email hidden]>, Jalo <[email hidden]> writes
Quoted text (9 lines)> >I've got an Athlon, (550), It is very fast, and not just at benchmarks, >every game I have thrown at it I can run all settings max, and still get a >good frame rate (I had a PIII 450, and I can not say the same about it). >As far as hardware/software compatablility, it works with all the hardware I >had with the PIII, and all my games. I have not heard of any compatablilty >issues with the Athlon. > >
Even on GPL with all graphics and all AI cars you get a good framerate? -- Mike Buckley Cotswold Pig Development Co Ltd Tel: +44 (0) 1472 371591 Fax: +44 (0) 1472 371208 Mail: [email hidden], [email hidden] http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk
I have never understood why anyone would drink coffee wihtout caffeine in it. What's the point? Coffee doesn't taste very good in the first place, even when you're used to it, and believe me I've been drinking it since I was seven, and without the caffeine you get a drink that doesn't do anything for you and as an extra bonus it doesn't taste very well... It's like cigarettes without nicotine. How stupid would it not be to smoke those??? /Chrille Thomas J.S. Brown wrote in message <[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (20 lines)>Ever tried decaf?? > >Antti Markus Peteri wrote: > >> [email hidden] says... >> > >> > tick tick tick..... >> > >> >> Back at you pal, I don't see you fooling the grim reaper either, no >> matter how tiny flame you've got. Wouldn't want it any other way, for >> that matter. >> >> --- >> Antti Markus Peteri >> >> 15 miles. your dim light shines from so far away >> >> - Soul Asylum, Promises Broken >
Mark D 14 Oct 1999#292533
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Antti Markus Peteri) wrote: > Well, aren't you the brilliant one... He shoots, he scores! Crowd goes wild! Bye for now Mark Reading, UK Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Jalo 14 Oct 1999 01:24 UTC#292501
Oh here we go, off on another long tread. Ian Parker <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7u2gh0$hev$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> Because real sports cars are made in Italy !!! ;) > > > > > > > > Only a Ferrari F355? Why not a Ruf Porsche? It's faster. > > > > -- > > Bob Curtin > > Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange > > http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ > > "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, > baggy > > skin" > > > > > >
Jalo 14 Oct 1999 01:35 UTC#292503
> Christer, > Why in the world would someone ask you for an opinion only to hear as a > response "Probably"? The AMD part may be faster on some of the "fixed" > benchmarks, but we'll see how it fares upon widespread adoption. Itreally > makes no difference whatsoever if a CPU is faster if it miserably fails > software/hardware compatablility. We know the P3's are fully compatable > now, not the "what if" of the Athlon. I've got an Athlon, (550), It is very fast, and not just at benchmarks, every game I have thrown at it I can run all settings max, and still get a good frame rate (I had a PIII 450, and I can not say the same about it). As far as hardware/software compatablility, it works with all the hardware I had with the PIII, and all my games. I have not heard of any compatablilty issues with the Athlon.
Clark Archer 14 Oct 1999 06:37 UTC#292520
A 'sports car' and a 'fast car' aren't always the same thing, eh? Ian Parker <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7u2gh0$hev$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (34 lines)> Because real sports cars are made in Italy !!! ;) > > -- > Ian Parker > [email hidden] > UKGPL League > http://www.btinternet.com/~ukgpl/index.html > -- > Bob Curtin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Christer Andersson wrote: > > > > > /Chrille, I wont post here when I've ordered my Ferrari F355 Spider... > Well > > > okay, I might, cause I'm only human, but I wont get upset if you get > rude... > > > Okay, I might that too, cause again - I'm only human ;o) > > > > > > > Only a Ferrari F355? Why not a Ruf Porsche? It's faster. > > > > -- > > Bob Curtin > > Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange > > http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ > > "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, > baggy > > skin" > > > > > >
Jalo 14 Oct 1999#498302
Oh here we go, off on another long tread.
Jalo 15 Oct 1999 01:14 UTC#292386
> >I've got an Athlon, (550), It is very fast, and not just at benchmarks, > >every game I have thrown at it I can run all settings max, and still geta > >good frame rate (I had a PIII 450, and I can not say the same about it). > >As far as hardware/software compatablility, it works with all thehardware I > >had with the PIII, and all my games. I have not heard of anycompatablilty > >issues with the Athlon. > > > > > Even on GPL with all graphics and all AI cars you get a good framerate? It never drops below 19 frames, even at the very start of a race with full grid, max detail, and res set to 1280x1024 (at least at Monza, have not tried other tracks yet).
In article <iRxO3.1882$[email hidden]>, Larry <[email hidden]> writes >As soon as ASUS makes a main board available (and isn't shivering from >Intel's 'pressure'), I'll put together an Athlon system. > >Athlon boards are a bit too far and few in-between for me right now. > I think ASUS do have a mainboard available. One company (in the UK at least) I know of is doing Athlon/mobo combo's for : 500Mhz - 269ukp 550 - 335 600 - 444 650 - 539 includes coolermaster fan thingy. Still too pricey for me but certainly seems the way to go rather than PIII. http://www.scan.co.uk/today.htm if you're interested. -- Mike Buckley Cotswold Pig Development Co Ltd Tel: +44 (0) 1472 371591 Fax: +44 (0) 1472 371208 Mail: [email hidden], [email hidden] http://www.toastyhamster.freeserve.co.uk
Larry 18 Oct 1999 05:02 UTC#292095
As soon as ASUS makes a main board available (and isn't shivering from Intel's 'pressure'), I'll put together an Athlon system. Athlon boards are a bit too far and few in-between for me right now. -Larry Christer Andersson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LN2O3.146$[email hidden]... > Mitch, the reason for me using probably is that according to > http://www.tomshardware.com the Athlon is faster than the P3 at almost > everything, so it's _probably_ faster than P3 in GPL and N3 too. You're > right that we wont know until we start to see comparisons in this group,but
Quoted text (34 lines)> if we were betting, I'll bet on the Athlon. > > Actually I just visited Tom's page and it seems as if the floating point > performance of an Athlon 500 is even better than the fastest P3, the P3 > 650... Here's the link - > http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/99q3/990823/athlon_pentiumiii-06.html -. > > /Chrille, and dont forget that the Athlon is not as expensive as the P3 > > "The important thing is not if we were right or wrong, but that we learned > something." > > Mitch Alatorre <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ea6N3.1168$[email hidden]... > > Christer, > > Why in the world would someone ask you for an opinion only to hear as a > > response "Probably"? The AMD part may be faster on some of the "fixed" > > benchmarks, but we'll see how it fares upon widespread adoption. It > really > > makes no difference whatsoever if a CPU is faster if it miserably fails > > software/hardware compatablility. We know the P3's are fully compatable > > now, not the "what if" of the Athlon. > > > > Morris, > > Pay no mind to some of the responses you recieved. Annononymity equals > > bravery in an online forum. Take many of the same "flamers" in a one to > one > > confrontation and they will cower behind mommies shirt tail :-) > > > > Enjoy that new "Kickin" system! > > > > Mitch > > > > Christer Andersson <[email hidden]> wrote in
message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Why didn't you ask us which puter to buy before you went away andbought
Quoted text (9 lines)> > the > > > overprized P3? > > >No, the Athlon 600 is probably faster... > > > > > > Ask here first, then buy > > > > > >
Goy Larsen 18 Oct 1999 09:33 UTC#292120
Larry wrote: > > As soon as ASUS makes a main board available (and isn't shivering from > Intel's 'pressure'), I'll put together an Athlon system. This is how I feel too, I've used many different boards in my PC's over the years, but somehow I always come back to ASUS, too bad Intel (probably) scared them off the Athlon, but then again, the famous Tom has praised AMD's products before.... -- Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
mark jeangerard 19 Oct 1999 07:15 UTC#291978
Why? ! -- Mark Jeangerard www.soundchaserweb.com New Mexico USA Oli <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7u9fjv$gue$[email hidden]... > Don't buy that crap Mark! > > -- > Oliver Nikolic > DP-MAX Computers > http://www.dp-max.co.yu/ > BeoRocket Racing Team (retired) > http://www.beorocket.co.yu/ > > > mark jeangerard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7u96pb$213$[email hidden]... > > That's very reassuring indeed. > > > > -- > > Mark - A future Athlon owner > > >
Oli 23 Oct 1999#498930
Well coz none of the AMD processors could match Intel in performance and compatibility so far... Dunno about the future and the Athlon but that's how it was so far... Just check how many guys here have problems and have the K6! Maybe the DX7 does wonder for AMD but I doubt it. Than again the AMD is much better than the crapy Cyrix. To avoid some crossfire here I"m not saying that the AMD products suck big time it's just that I know Mark and what he needs from his rig... -- Oliver Nikolic DP-MAX Computers http://www.dp-max.co.yu/ BeoRocket Racing Team (retired) http://www.beorocket.co.yu/

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