West Racing back in action.

http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply

http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply

Who cares....... Kevin (aka tlgtr) **** Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured annually by their clothing.

Exactly. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply "TlgtrProd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Who cares....... > > > Kevin (aka tlgtr) > **** > Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured > annually by their clothing. >

"Andi Cole" wrote: > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR Cockpit view only fans will be pleased to hear of the upcoming hamster view mod...

"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Stakd.10824$[email hidden]: > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR A Hamster in the cockpit is worth two Gerbils on a Kite. dave henrie

A Hamster in the***pit is worth two Gerbils on a Kite. dave henrie

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> http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > Andi. > > > > -- > > Remove only one zero to reply

One born every minute. > > >

The site www.virtualrc.com says ''Site / Game Coming Summer 2004" Typical Andre On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 19:14:55 -0000, "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote: >http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > >Andi.

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> The site www.virtualrc.com says > ''Site / Game Coming Summer 2004" > > Typical > > Andre >

It's coming, it's coming... they just have to model the transport box for the cars first...

"Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41911729$0$4007$[email hidden]... > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > Andi. > Excuse me while I clear the smoke out of the room - (brain went into infinite loop and started to smoke). So, this is a simulation of a simulation? LOL. Some people are really frightened of the real thing! :)

There's still some entertainment from the dynamic duo, well one at least. I guess if Tony's been working on VRCR there'll be a slight delay in Racing Legends. Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4191a31e$0$31701$[email hidden]... > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:41911729$0$4007$[email hidden]... > > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > > > Andi. > > > > Excuse me while I clear the smoke out of the room - (brain went into > infinite loop and started to smoke). > > So, this is a simulation of a simulation? LOL. Some people are really > frightened of the real thing! :) > >

>> http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > Cockpit view only fans will be pleased to hear of the upcoming hamster > view mod... Apparently the hamster view has been delayed. A fully rendered cage complete with one of those neat little wheel things is complete though...

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> http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > Andi. > > > >

Dont these dolts realize that they have made themselves the laughing stocks of the racing sim world? They need to move on and get real jobs. -- _________________________ Todd Walker http://www.toddwalker.net _________________________

Andi Cole wrote: > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > Andi. < yawn> < crickets chirping> :) -- Don Burnette

Todd Walker wrote: > Dont these dolts realize that they have made themselves the laughing > stocks of the racing sim world? They need to move on and get real > jobs. You must have missed something. That's just what Tony did. Or don't you think 3D-modeling is a real job? -- Jone Tytlandsvik http://tytlandsvik.no mailto: firstname at lastname dot no

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> Todd Walker wrote: > > > Dont these dolts realize that they have made themselves the laughing > > stocks of the racing sim world? They need to move on and get real > > jobs. > > You must have missed something. That's just what Tony did. Or don't you > think 3D-modeling is a real job?

I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The Life and Times of the West Brothers." -- _________________________ Todd Walker http://www.toddwalker.net _________________________

Well you must have read some issue to form the opinion you have, I mean you must know all the facts to call someone a 'Dolt', otherwise I guess the spirit of someone at least trying to do something is lost on you. OK they havnt had a title out for a while (seems thats about to change) but at least they are giving something ago instead on some people who just like to moan. "Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... >> Todd Walker wrote: >> >> > Dont these dolts realize that they have made themselves the laughing >> > stocks of the racing sim world? They need to move on and get real >> > jobs. >> >> You must have missed something. That's just what Tony did. Or don't you >> think 3D-modeling is a real job? > > I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The > Life and Times of the West Brothers." > > -- > _________________________ > Todd Walker > http://www.toddwalker.net > _________________________

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"Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41911729$0$4007$[email hidden]... > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > Andi. You guys do realize this is what (I believe) r.a.s. poster Todd Wasson (sp) has been working on? Sounds like Mr. West was contract help for 3d work more than a part of the core development team. Back to your normally scheduled hauler bashing. :-) -jde

Todd Walker wrote: > > I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The > Life and Times of the West Brothers." No, you missed something in that particular piece of news Andi refer to. Tony West has been working for Virtual Racing. I guess he has been paid and that makes it a job. Maybe short term but still a "real job". BTW: I wish I didn't have a "real job" and had more time to work on my rank. ;) -- Jone Tytlandsvik http://tytlandsvik.no mailto: firstname at lastname dot no

All I did was point out why RL maybe delayed a bit more ! Andi. -- Remove only one zero to reply "J.D. Ellis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ppVkd.1$[email hidden]... > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:41911729$0$4007$[email hidden]... > > http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR > > > > Andi. > > You guys do realize this is what (I believe) r.a.s. poster Todd Wasson (sp) > has been working on? Sounds like Mr. West was contract help for 3d work > more than a part of the core development team. > > Back to your normally scheduled hauler bashing. :-) > > -jde > > >

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>From: Andre Warringa [email hidden] >Date: 11/9/2004 8:21 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >The site www.virtualrc.com says >''Site / Game Coming Summer 2004" > >Typical > >Andre >

Tell me, do you honestly believe the project was delayed because Tony West is involved? Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

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>From: "Andi Cole" [email hidden] >Date: 11/10/2004 1:01 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <41926585$0$4016$[email hidden]> > >There's still some entertainment from the dynamic duo, well one at least. > >I guess if Tony's been working on VRCR there'll be a slight delay in Racing >Legends. > >Andi. >

Not necessarily. If Bill and Bob build a house using their seperate, individual skills, Bob's job may take 2 years and Bill's only 6 months. If that's the case, Bill can do other things for a year and a half without delaying the houses'.. errmm... "release" ;-) at all. Actually, I had the same fear too when Tony started out. Not sure if/how much it's effected the "schedule" but suffice it to say there's still much coding to be done on Chris' end anyway :-) Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

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>From: Todd Walker [email hidden] >Date: 11/11/2004 8:22 AM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... >> Todd Walker wrote: >> >> > Dont these dolts realize that they have made themselves the laughing >> > stocks of the racing sim world? They need to move on and get real >> > jobs. >> >> You must have missed something. That's just what Tony did. Or don't you >> think 3D-modeling is a real job? > >I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The >Life and Times of the West Brothers." > >-- >_________________________ >Todd Walker >http://www.toddwalker.net >_________________________ >

The magazine, "The Life and Times of the West Brothers" was unfortunately cancelled by their publisher on account of it being too difficult to read and the Wests' simultaneous refusal to allow it to be produced under that name with language aimed at a third grade reading comprehension level. As a result, the Wests have now been blamed and ridiculed for failing to produce anything at all. Anyway, as the others pointed out, if you had actually read the article (actually just the first sentence) you would have known that "[VRC was] Created by a team of international game developers, including Tony West of West Racing" It mentions nothing of Chris, and it doesn't say "created by West Racing." I would be much more harsh if you didn't have the cutest baby picture I've ever seen posted at your web site :-) http://www.toddwalker.net/jalbum/nicole_bday/slides/CRW_1689%20(Large).html Awww... :-) Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

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>From: Todd Walker [email hidden] >Date: 11/10/2004 4:50 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >In article <41911729$0$4007$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR >> >> Andi. >> >> >> >> > >Dont these dolts realize that they have made themselves the laughing >stocks of the racing sim world? They need to move on and get real jobs. > >-- >_________________________ >Todd Walker >http://www.toddwalker.net >_________________________ >

Some people believe that refusing high paying job offers (rather shocking ones to beat) to work for yourself after refusing to compromise a previous product when demanded by the publisher, taking all the risk yourself to make what you set out to make in the first place instead, is "moving on" at the highest level. I have to agree. Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

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>From: "J.D. Ellis" [email hidden] >Date: 11/11/2004 8:41 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <ppVkd.1$[email hidden]> > > >"Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:41911729$0$4007$[email hidden]... >> http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR >> >> Andi. > >You guys do realize this is what (I believe) r.a.s. poster Todd Wasson (sp) >has been working on? Sounds like Mr. West was contract help for 3d work >more than a part of the core development team. >

Precisely. Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

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>From: "Tony Rickard" [email hidden] >Date: 11/10/2004 4:43 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <HQwkd.11668$[email hidden]> > >>> http://www.bhmotorsports.com/VRCR >> >> Cockpit view only fans will be pleased to hear of the upcoming hamster >> view mod... > >Apparently the hamster view has been delayed. A fully rendered cage complete >with one of those neat little wheel things is complete though... >

It's rather difficult to measure a hamster's "torsional neck spring rate" and code the resulting motion dynamics, hence the hamster view delay. Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

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>> I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The >> Life and Times of the West Brothers." > Anyway, as the others pointed out, if you had actually read the article > (actually just the first sentence) you would have known that "[VRC was] > Created > by a team of international game developers, including Tony West of West > Racing"

The jibes are generally in good humour, I am sure Chris and Tony have been around usenet long enough not to give a monkeys anyway. Despite my own occasional light hearted sarcasm aimed at the Westies I genuinely hope they succeed, if only for my own selfish desires for the best racing sim possible. If our own working lives were quite so visible I am sure we would all get a load of opinions on how to do it better!

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> It mentions nothing of Chris, and it doesn't say "created by West Racing." > > I would be much more harsh if you didn't have the cutest baby picture I've > ever > seen posted at your web site :-) > > http://www.toddwalker.net/jalbum/nicole_bday/slides/CRW_1689%20(Large).html > > Awww... :-)

You big old softie! Cheers Tony

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>From: "Tony Rickard" [email hidden] >Date: 11/13/2004 5:41 PM Central Standard Time >Message-id: <FYwld.14192$[email hidden]> > >"J. Todd Wasson" wrote: > >>> I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The >>> Life and Times of the West Brothers." > >> Anyway, as the others pointed out, if you had actually read the article >> (actually just the first sentence) you would have known that "[VRC was] >> Created >> by a team of international game developers, including Tony West of West >> Racing" > >The jibes are generally in good humour, I am sure Chris and Tony have been >around usenet long enough not to give a monkeys anyway. Despite my own >occasional light hearted sarcasm aimed at the Westies I genuinely hope they >succeed, if only for my own selfish desires for the best racing sim >possible. If our own working lives were quite so visible I am sure we would >all get a load of opinions on how to do it better! >

I must admit to chuckling at some of the jibes :-) I especially liked the hamster view and transport box bits. I sent Tony the transport box remark and he said, "right, I'll get right on that." :-) What we really need is a box with a nice bag, although I think the zipper may be rather challenging to model...

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>> It mentions nothing of Chris, and it doesn't say "created by West Racing." >> >> I would be much more harsh if you didn't have the cutest baby picture I've >> ever >> seen posted at your web site :-) >> >> http://www.toddwalker.net/jalbum/nicole_bday/slides/CRW_1689%20(Large).html >> >> Awww... :-) > >You big old softie! >

Cheers >Tony > :-) Todd Wasson Racing Software http://PerformanceSimulations.com http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm

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> "J. Todd Wasson" wrote: > > >> I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The > >> Life and Times of the West Brothers." > > > Anyway, as the others pointed out, if you had actually read the article > > (actually just the first sentence) you would have known that "[VRC was] > > Created > > by a team of international game developers, including Tony West of West > > Racing" > > The jibes are generally in good humour, I am sure Chris and Tony have been > around usenet long enough not to give a monkeys anyway. Despite my own > occasional light hearted sarcasm aimed at the Westies I genuinely hope

they > succeed, if only for my own selfish desires for the best racing sim > possible. If our own working lives were quite so visible I am sure wewould > all get a load of opinions on how to do it better! > > > It mentions nothing of Chris, and it doesn't say "created by WestRacing." > > > > I would be much more harsh if you didn't have the cutest baby pictureI've > > ever > > seen posted at your web site :-) > > > >http://www.toddwalker.net/jalbum/nicole_bday/slides/CRW_1689%20(Large).html

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> > > > Awww... :-) > > You big old softie! > > Cheers > Tony

If our working lives resembled this project, we'd be unemployed long ago. <g> > > >

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> > Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FYwld.14192$[email hidden]... > > "J. Todd Wasson" wrote: > > > > >> I must have missed something. I guess I didn't get that issue of "The > > >> Life and Times of the West Brothers." > > > > > Anyway, as the others pointed out, if you had actually read the

article > > > (actually just the first sentence) you would have known that "[VRCwas] > > > Created > > > by a team of international game developers, including Tony West ofWest > > > Racing" > > > > The jibes are generally in good humour, I am sure Chris and Tony havebeen

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> > around usenet long enough not to give a monkeys anyway. Despite my own > > occasional light hearted sarcasm aimed at the Westies I genuinely hope > they > > succeed, if only for my own selfish desires for the best racing sim > > possible. If our own working lives were quite so visible I am sure we > would > > all get a load of opinions on how to do it better! > > > > > It mentions nothing of Chris, and it doesn't say "created by West > Racing." > > > > > > I would be much more harsh if you didn't have the cutest baby picture > I've > > > ever > > > seen posted at your web site :-) > > > > > > >

http://www.toddwalker.net/jalbum/nicole_bday/slides/CRW_1689%20(Large).html

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> > > > > > Awww... :-) > > > > You big old softie! > > > > Cheers > > Tony > > > > If our working lives resembled this project, we'd be unemployed long

ago. > <g> Yeah, pretty darn good thing that there are better work options out there. Some things take just way too long. <g> RindaLynn

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>> If our working lives resembled this project, we'd be unemployed long > ago. >> <g> > > Yeah, pretty darn good thing that there are better work options out there. > > Some things take just way too long.

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