: Indycar and Nascar

>Forgive my ignorance in this matter, but someone could probably explain me >which is the difference between the real Indycars and Nascar. I always knew >that Nascar were a sort of stock cars, but after trying the patch posted >here few days ago I am not that sure. Indycar and Nascar are two very different racing series. They run on (some) different tracks, have different body styles, different rules, etc. NASCAR (at least Winston Cup, which is the most popular Nascar series) is an American racing series made mostly of American drivers, driving American cars, and racing on American tracks. Currently, the Winston Cup series features three different car types: Ford Thunderbird, Chevy Lumina, and Pontiac Grand Prix. But make no mistake. They may _look_ like the cars you can buy from a dealer, but they're nothing like them. They all run V8 engines (which generate ~800 HP), and weigh around 3500 lbs. These cars generally run on oval tracks of different sizes (from around 0.5 miles up to 2.6 miles), but they also run on a couple of road cources (Sears Point and Watkins Glen) during the racing season. The most famous track they race at is probably the Daytona International Speedway in Daytona, Florida. This year, the Nascar Winston Cup cars are racing at Indianapolis Motor Speedway for the first time in the Brickyard 400. Indycars are like the ones in the Indycar Racing game. Lighter, more power, differnt look, and completely different handling characteristics from the Nascar Winston Cup cars. No, nothing wrong. There currently is no good NASCAR simulator game, so the point of the Nascar patch (add-on actually, not really a patch) was just to paint the cars like Nascar Winston Cup, and to name the drivers appropriatly. The patch is not particularly realistic since the cars still look and act like Indycars. And why do I love the Nascar painted cars for ICR? I get much more joy out of riding Dale Earnhardt into the wall than I do Al Unser Jr. (although I enjoy it for both.) Later... Steve ***************************************************************************** *****************************************************************************

Hello. Forgive my ignorance in this matter, but someone could probably explain me which is the difference between the real Indycars and Nascar. I always knew that Nascar were a sort of stock cars, but after trying the patch posted here few days ago I am not that sure. Or have I done something wrong in applying the patch? The only difference I see is a different colour for my car and the chance to choose a different chassis/engine... Thanks. Luca.

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>Hello. >Forgive my ignorance in this matter, but someone could probably explain me >which is the difference between the real Indycars and Nascar. I always knew >that Nascar were a sort of stock cars, but after trying the patch posted >here few days ago I am not that sure. >Or have I done something wrong in applying the patch? The only difference I >see is a different colour for my car and the chance to choose a different >chassis/engine...

The "patch" is simply to simulate the appearance of NASCAR cars in the current season. The cars are still IndyCars, and yes, you're right, NASCAR runs full-bodied stock cars. -- .......................................................................... Tony Johns | Winston Racing Series FTP: ftp.netcom.com |------------------------------------------------- /pub/zyllyx | IndyCar Racing Series #38 --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hey guys (and gals), I am upgrading my system to vlb with a 486/66 and I was wondering what vlb video cards work best with IndyCar. I was considering a Diamond stealth 32 or 64 with 2 megs. Any opinions on these from a satisfied (or dissatisfied) customer? Any opinions on other vlb cards used? All opinions welcome and encouraged! Thanks, -------- Darrel Cherry AFM #184

Darrel, Although I have had no direct experience with{ the Diamond stealth cards, I can say that you definately want a VL-bus card with a Tseng Labs ET4000 chip on it. {_Cards with this chip are excellent DOS Video performers, and the newer Tseng Labs ET4000{w32's have very good Windows performance as well. Traditionally, D video performance and Windows performance had to be balanced, and a video card that performed excellent in Windows was a mediocre Dos perf{_ormer, and vice versa. The newer Tseng labs chips seem to contradict this traditional thinking. I myself have a Cirrus Logic 5428 VLB card. I was going to get a card with the Tseng Labs chips, but I found a very Incredible deal on the Cirrus Logic. It isn't the newest chip, but it performs well above the average for Local bus video cards (although not as fast as the ET4000). However, its Windows performance is average at best{ so if you are a heavy Windows user you may want to avoid it. I myself didn't notice much of a speedup when I upgraded my video cards from a 16-bit Trident SVGA card to the 32-bit Cirrus Logic ca at least in Indy Car Racing. The game that I have used that had the most dramatic speedup was Doom, on that thespeed literally doubled. I don't know. I'm running ICR on a DX2-66 also, and ICR runs very smoothly. Maybe that's why I don't notice a Speedup. Aaron

Hi... I'm running a DX 4/100 with the Diamond Stealth 32 2mb vlb card. I'm very happy with it....I run ICR w/ all details on and drop no frames...... With the Tseng Labs ET4000W32p chip, things fly..especially for the price!!!! I've seen the game on a Pent90 w/ a ATI PCI Mach64 w/ 4MB... fast but not any faster than on my system...now if I could only save up enough for the T1 wheel and pedals!!!! Yoshiki

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>Subject: Best VLB Video card for IndyCar Racing?? >Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 22:22:47 GMT >Hey guys (and gals), >I am upgrading my system to vlb with a 486/66 and I was wondering >what vlb video cards work best with IndyCar. I was considering a >Diamond stealth 32 or 64 with 2 megs. Any opinions on these from >a satisfied (or dissatisfied) customer? Any opinions on other >vlb cards used? All opinions welcome and encouraged! >Thanks, >-------- >Darrel Cherry >AFM #184

I have the Diamond Stealth 64 w/2 MB RAM... but its PCI. It is fantastic! Ralf

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>Subject: Re: Best VLB Video card for IndyCar Racing?? >Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 01:32:35 GMT >Hi... >I'm running a DX 4/100 with the Diamond Stealth 32 2mb vlb card. >I'm very happy with it....I run ICR w/ all details on and drop >no frames...... With the Tseng Labs ET4000W32p chip, things >fly..especially for the price!!!! >I've seen the game on a Pent90 w/ a ATI PCI Mach64 w/ 4MB... >fast but not any faster than on my system...now if I could only >save up enough for the T1 wheel and pedals!!!! >Yoshiki

Really not much need to save up... Chips & Bits can get one to ya in 2 days for $111 + $2 shipping +$4 airbourne express. Here's the address and # Chips & Bits P.O. Box 234 Rochester, VT 05767 800-767-3033 They have COD also, but usually not on first orders and usually only on software. Ralf

Hey guys (and gals), I am upgrading my system to vlb with a 486/66 and I was wondering what vlb video cards work best with IndyCar. I was considering a Diamond stealth 32 or 64 with 2 megs. Any opinions on these from a satisfied (or dissatisfied) customer? Any opinions on other vlb cards used? All opinions welcome and encouraged! Thanks, ========================================== Well I have a Diamond Speedstar Pro and I absolutely LOVE it, and have had zero problems. Rob

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>Subject: Re: Best VLB Video card for IndyCar Racing?? >Date: 10 Aug 1994 01:49:01 -0400 >Hey guys (and gals), >I am upgrading my system to vlb with a 486/66 and I was wondering >what vlb video cards work best with IndyCar. I was considering a >Diamond stealth 32 or 64 with 2 megs. Any opinions on these from >a satisfied (or dissatisfied) customer? Any opinions on other >vlb cards used? All opinions welcome and encouraged! >Thanks, >========================================== >Well I have a Diamond Speedstar Pro and I absolutely LOVE it, and have had >zero problems. >Rob

I have the Diamond Stealth 64... Beautiful! Ralf Southard