INDYCAR BUGS

I have noticed a few bugs with INDYCAR, running on any version 1.00 thru to 1.05. When on yellow flags, if you actually are running the last lap on yellow, and you are coming second, then if you accelerate past the first placed car just before the finish line, then you actually come first and are not penalised for it!!! Also, you can sometimes pass under yellow flags and it doesn't slow you down until the cars that are supposed to be in front of you go past you!!!!! There are no black flags in this game for anybody, so you can cheat as much as you like, like driving thru the pits on some courses on yellow laps to pass all the cars in front of you!!!! Cheers Tommy

<some yellow flag bugs deleted...> Also a minor one: Replay in Cleveland does some strange things. If you watch from TV1, the cars come below pavement after turn 3 and the engine sound disappears in couple of places. : Cheers : Tommy Pasi

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>Subject: INDYCAR BUGS >Date: Wed, 24 Aug 1994 03:29:41 GMT >I have noticed a few bugs with INDYCAR, running on any version >1.00 thru to 1.05. >When on yellow flags, if you actually are running the last lap >on yellow, and you are coming second, then if you accelerate past >the first placed car just before the finish line, then you actually >come first and are not penalised for it!!!

That's not a "bug", that's a cheat. Same here. Hmmmm... exactly the kind of person we don't need in our racing series, a driver with no integrity. Ralf _____________________________________________________________________ _ ____ ____ ____ | | / __| | __ \ / ___| Ralf Southard ICRS Co-Director | | | | | |_| / \ \_ Editor-In-Chief of Online Racing Int'l _____________________________________________________________________ 6 Armsby Building, University Park, PA 16802

writes: I agree with Ralf on this one. We don't need any driver in our contest that cheats. All of this is an 'Honesty Policy' type thing. I can say I ran a 233.500 an Michigan but if I only ran 129.?? why bother. There's no challenge in seeing who can word process a results file the best. Jason

: I agree with Ralf on this one. We don't need any driver in our contest : that cheats. All of this is an 'Honesty Policy' type thing. I can say I : ran a 233.500 an Michigan but if I only ran 129.?? why bother. There's no : challenge in seeing who can word process a results file the best. Oh, give me a break! How exactly would you know whether anybody had or hadn't tweaked a results.txt? Do you really believe it has never happened? Also, the fella in question was merely commented on behaviour of the simulator that he (and a zillion others) have discovered. To assume that he employs these tricks in a contest is as bad an assumption that nobody else does. ------------------------------------------------------------------- EF Data Corp. wk: (602)968-0447 2105 W. 5th Pl. fax: (602)921-9012 Tempe, AZ 85281 My opinions are regarded by my employer as rather humorous. -------------------------------------------------------------------

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>Subject: Re: INDYCAR BUGS >Date: 27 Aug 1994 17:46:38 GMT >: writes: >: I agree with Ralf on this one. We don't need any driver in our contest >: that cheats. All of this is an 'Honesty Policy' type thing. I can say I >: ran a 233.500 an Michigan but if I only ran 129.?? why bother. There's no >: challenge in seeing who can word process a results file the best. >Oh, give me a break! How exactly would you know whether anybody had or >hadn't tweaked a results.txt? Do you really believe it has never happened? >Also, the fella in question was merely commented on behaviour of the >simulator that he (and a zillion others) have discovered. To assume that >he employs these tricks in a contest is as bad an assumption that nobody >else does.

First of all, I was not insinuating that the original poster was employing known flaws in ICR to progress through a racing series. If that is how it was taken, I apologize. There are many tell-tale signs of using these methods improperly, but listing them here would only make it more difficult to verify outright dishonest persons. Each of us being owners of our own copy of ICR, we can do with them what we want. So if a person wants to race through the pits at 170mph during a yellow flag, so be it. But that is for outside the series. In most cases, our racing series are based on honesty. But in a couple of our series, we have methods that go beyond the simple text editor methods of altering results.txt files. Bottom line, if you don't ever touch your results files, you've got nothing to worry about. If you don't race through Yellow flags, you've got nothing to worry about. If you don't play dishonestly, then don't worry about it. And if something strange does happen, just report it to your series director. Racing Simulation games are fun, and are meant to be enjoyed. No matter what it is that makes you happy. And ther series do the same thing, but people are looking for good honest competition. If something strange happens to your race when you're in a series, just explain the situation, and the director will understand. Final note, it'll be great when pit speed limits and black flags are added to ICR, then racing through the pits won't be an issue. Ralf _____________________________________________________________________ _ ____ ____ ____ | | / __| | __ \ / ___| Ralf Southard ICRS Co-Director | | | | | |_| / \ \_ Editor-In-Chief of Online Racing Int'l _____________________________________________________________________ 6 Armsby Building, University Park, PA 16802 _____________________________________________________________________