ICR Problem: Judging handling

After a haitus I've been playing ICR again, and I notice I've got the same problem I had last time: I know the difference between under and oversteer (push & loose) and how they affect handling, and how to deal with them. My problem is I'm having trouble determining WHICH condition is happening as I drive. I hear skidding and I see myself going into the wall, but I can't decide whether it's because of push or being loose. What clues should I be looking for to tell which is the problem? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh ry in eye ay - oh ry in eye ay - oh ry in eye key ooh lay - ka lay ooh lau ee - oh ry in eye ay - sya te lee ay vee show

Usually if you are having an understeer problem the car will loose control on the front wheels and you end up doing a very wide turn banging against the wall nose-first. If you have an oversteer problem the rear wheels will loose grip and you end up doing a spin banging back-sided against the wall (specialy when you accelerate on turn-exits). -- +---------------------+----------------------------------------------+ |Mario Carlos Sadio | ... que dessa Ocidental praia Lusitana, por | |TEL +351 (1) 7205000 | mares nunca dantes navegados, passaram para | |FAX +351 (1) 7205090 | alem da Trapobana... (LC) | +---------------------+----------------------------------------------+

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> I know the difference between under and oversteer (push & loose) and how > they affect handling, and how to deal with them. My problem is I'm having > trouble determining WHICH condition is happening as I drive. I hear > skidding and I see myself going into the wall, but I can't decide whether > it's because of push or being loose. > What clues should I be looking for to tell which is the problem?

As Fireball Roberts once put it (I think) "If you hit the wall with the front of the car, that's understeer. If you hit the wall with the back of the car, that's oversteer, Sonny." -- Kevin Sullivan, Hiratsuka, Kanagawa, Japan "Pointing to the President's seal on the wall of the car, Truman explained that he had had the eagle's head turned to face the olive branch. Churchill said he thought the eagle's head should be mounted on a swivel." p488, Truman, David McCullough, 1992, Simon & Schuster