Spinning across garage bug in NASCAR

I think I have discovered a bug in version 1.2 of Papyrus Nascar Racing. I was racing at Bristol, 26 cars in the field, 98% opponent strength, no damage, no yellow, no wind, constant weather. I was in traffic(in the lead) about the lap about 5 cars. All of the sudden, without an impact, my car started spinning. It spun faster than I have ever seen. I hit the outside wall of turn 3, then bounce acrossed the track. Somehow went through the inside wall, still spinning. I was spinning in the garage area, except there was no trailers or anything, just lots and lots of green. I spun back out on the track in turn one, didn't cross the start/finish line and ram right into a few of the cars in the pack. I then stopped spinning after hitting about 5 cars(killing them all). I started driving off. When I pressed F2, I was shown being passed by Jarrett because of all these spinning, but something else happened. This is what the screen looked like(kind of). Pos. Driver Time 1 D. Jarrett 2 V. Cheng -53.9 3 M. Martin -1.2 4 R. Wallace -1.5 5 D. Earnhardt -3.0 Has anyone experienced a similar incident? Vince "using my bro's account" Cheng

Sounds to me like you were clipped from behind and sent for a spin. Did you look at the replay?????? I would love to have seen this. The replay would have showed it all. As for you being 53 seconds behind, that's probably because you never crossed the start/finish line, fell way behind in all your spinning, then the track got blocked from all the wrecks so the lead cars couldn't cross the finish line either. I don't think this is a bug but it sounds like an incredible wreck. --- ************************************************************************** ** ** **"Push means you see the wreck...Loose means you don't see the wreck!!"** ** ** ** Neil Bonnett ** ************************************************************************** ** Jeff Foglietta Network & Software Support (TFN) ** ** 914-644-2730 NYNEX Science & Technology ** ** Fax 914 644 2170 White Plains, NY 10604 ** **************************************************************************

>Sounds to me like you were clipped from behind and sent for a spin. After looking at the replays from the 4 cars that were near by and from all possible angles, I concluded that I was not nearly close enough to be cliped, plus I was the only car on turn 3 to spin. Nope. I only crashed out 3 cars, and they were no where close to the front. The situation is this, I spun through the concrete walls and came out on the other side of the track. I did not just sit there and spin. My car spun over 40 times, which is impossible, knowing how slow you must go at Bristol. started spinning here! /===========================\ ( ) \===========================/ came out from the concrete here! I don't think anyone touched me, even if they did, I should have gone through the concrete like that. Maybe it has to do with the fact that damage is off. Vince "using my bro's account" Cheng

This bug is not uncommon in INDYCAR racing. I thought sure Papyrus would have fixed it for NASCAR but apparently not.

Well I had the same thing happen with NASCAR (version 1.2.1) just the other day. I was coming off turn four at MIS at it made some weird sound and I just started spinning ***ly - I mean, I was _spinning_, jack! I viewed it from several different camera angles, and there was clearly nobody even near me. But, both front quarter panels and my hood either got severly damaged or torn off all together. So far that's the one and only time it has happened, knock on wood.... Jim

Since I haven't played enough long races to experience this yet, is this sudden blip and spin possibly Papyrus' way of simulating cutting a tire? Sure wouldn't explain the teleportation, but it might explain the cause for the spin. Bill

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>>Sounds to me like you were clipped from behind and sent for a spin. >After looking at the replays from the 4 cars that were near by and >from all possible angles, I concluded that I was not nearly close enough >to be cliped, plus I was the only car on turn 3 to spin. >>Did you look at the replay?????? I would love to have seen this. The >>replay would have showed it all. As for you being 53 seconds behind, >>that's probably because you never crossed the start/finish line, fell >>way behind in all your spinning, then the track got blocked from >>all the wrecks so the lead cars couldn't cross the finish line either. >>I don't think this is a bug but it sounds like an incredible wreck. >Nope. I only crashed out 3 cars, and they were no where close to the >front. The situation is this, I spun through the concrete walls and came >out on the other side of the track. I did not just sit there and spin. >My car spun over 40 times, which is impossible, knowing how slow you must >go at Bristol. > started spinning here! > /===========================\ > ( ) > \===========================/ > came out from the concrete here! >I don't think anyone touched me, even if they did, I should have gone >through the concrete like that. Maybe it has to do with the fact that >damage is off.

apparently NASCAR has the same bug as IndyCar. I call it the "teleport" bug. It's been biting us in IndyCar for years. One time I was racing at Vancouver, a full lap ahead of the field when I went into the tunnel and I heard a *BLIP* in the headphones, and I was suddenly spinning slowly - UNDER the stadium! Another time I was leading a race at Australia when I heard that *BLIP* and I ended up *IN* the wall right past the S/F line. I don't mean INTO the wall, as in I _hit_ the wall, I mean I was __INSIDE__ the wall! The front wheels were in pit lane, the rear wheels were out on hte front straight, and I was at least a hundred meters from the pit exit. I didn't touch anything in either case - the replay shows me crusing along in the middle of the road both times, then the next frame shows me off in never-never land. another time I was practicing at Australia and I hit the wall in T6; I was teleported all the way down the course and I ended up crashing into the wall at T12. Even after I collected the car from the spin I still managed a 1:21 lap, which is about 5 seconds faster than the Internet record :-) -- Brian Wong Product Marketing Engineering

No, it's definitely a bug. Papyrus refuses to acknowledge it but they have to know it's there.