T2 and ACM game card

Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it work with a regular joystick port? Max

> Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it > work with a regular joystick port? > Max I use the Port on my SB32 PnP and it works fine. They say you are supposed to use a special one, but I have not seen any need. Justin -- *********************************************** Justin VonHagen, Malvern PA USA http://www.csc.vill.edu/~vonhagen Is that enough? I could give more. ***********************************************

: Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it : work with a regular joystick port? As long as the port will recognize 2 joysticks. Almost all do, however some older/cheaper ones do not. Most of the ports on soundcards accept to joystick inputs for the one port. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

> Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, No. Yes.

>Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it >work with a regular joystick port? > Max You should have a gamecard with adjustable speed controls, but it does not have to be a Thrustmaster... I used one I got from my local computer dealer for $11.99 (CAN). As long as it has that little pot on the back so you can adjust the calibration of the Thrustmaster, it should work great! Weyrleader

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>Subject: Re: T2 and ACM game card >Date: 3 Apr 1996 23:28:57 GMT >: Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it >: work with a regular joystick port? >As long as the port will recognize 2 joysticks. Almost all do, however >some older/cheaper ones do not. Most of the ports on soundcards accept >to joystick inputs for the one port.

Now, I've heard that some machines have problems with a soundcard port. Something about a speed difference issue. Could anyone enlighten me, please? I've tried to run ICR2 on a P90 with a T1, and some of the tracks are just plain undriveable. Would a different game card even HELP? Better display card? Faster machine? You get the idea... Eldred I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!? Eldred Pickett

> Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it > work with a regular joystick port? > Max I just bought a Thrustmaster T2 the day before last and it works right out of a regular joystick port.

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> Now, I've heard that some machines have problems with a soundcard port. > Something about a speed difference issue. Could anyone enlighten me, please? > I've tried to run ICR2 on a P90 with a T1, and some of the tracks are just > plain undriveable. Would a different game card even HELP? Better display > card? Faster machine? You get the idea... > Eldred

That's interesting. I have a T2 which works just fine through my SB16 game port on my P133. However, when I first started racing the original ICR, I had a 486-33, and I couldn't keep the damn car off the walls...my joystick (a CH Flightstick at the time) wouldn't align properly. I simply couldn't play the game, and pulled it off my hard drive (and back to World Circuit). When I upgraded my machine to a DX2-66, I loaded ICR up again and everything worked great..same joystick, same soundcard! Maybe this is the same sort of thing? Neil -- Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

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>Subject: Re: T2 and ACM game card >Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 17:53:21 -0500 >> Now, I've heard that some machines have problems with a soundcard port. >> Something about a speed difference issue. Could anyone enlighten me, please? >> I've tried to run ICR2 on a P90 with a T1, and some of the tracks are just >> plain undriveable. Would a different game card even HELP? Better display >> card? Faster machine? You get the idea... >> Eldred >That's interesting. I have a T2 which works just fine through my SB16 game port >on my P133. However, when I first started racing the original ICR, I had a >486-33, and I couldn't keep the damn car off the walls...my joystick (a CH >Flightstick at the time) wouldn't align properly. I simply couldn't play the >game, and pulled it off my hard drive (and back to World Circuit). When I >upgraded my machine to a DX2-66, I loaded ICR up again and everything worked >great..same joystick, same soundcard! Maybe this is the same sort of thing? >Neil >-- >Meek and obedient you follow the leader >down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.. > Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

Great, so NOW I have to spend a few hundred MORE bucks to run a 45 dollar GAME?!? :( The only graphics I run are skids/paint on, smoke/dirt on, track objects on(hey, I need my brake markers!) , everything else OFF. 5 drawn ahead, 1 behind, 1 heard, VGA (not SVGA). Now, seeing as I've disabled about 85% of the fancy graphics, shouldn't I get reasonable playability on a P90 with 16MB?!? Never mind that I'm only running with 15 opponents... Eldred (not a happy camper) Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!? Eldred Pickett

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> Great, so NOW I have to spend a few hundred MORE bucks to run a 45 dollar > GAME?!? :( > The only graphics I run are skids/paint on, smoke/dirt on, track objects > on(hey, I need my brake markers!) , everything else OFF. 5 drawn ahead, 1 > behind, 1 heard, VGA (not SVGA). Now, seeing as I've disabled about 85% of the > fancy graphics, shouldn't I get reasonable playability on a P90 with 16MB?!? > Never mind that I'm only running with 15 opponents... > Eldred (not a happy camper) Pickett > I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!? > Eldred Pickett

WOW! I don't undestand this at all. I run ICR2 on a P5-90 as well. I have 32 meg (the only difference in ICR2 this yielded over 16meg was length of replay). I have a Diamond Stealth 64 2meg-Dram video card. I run the sim in SVGA with a full field ahead (max opponents). I have it set for 3 or 4 heard. I have road and grass texture turned off, object texture and possibly horizon set to auto (I don't remember seeing the horizon blink on/off so I may not have this set to auto). With the sim set like this I get a great frame rate. I wonder what the difference is? Chris

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>>Subject: Re: T2 and ACM game card >>Date: 3 Apr 1996 23:28:57 GMT >>: Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it >>: work with a regular joystick port? >>As long as the port will recognize 2 joysticks. Almost all do, however >>some older/cheaper ones do not. Most of the ports on soundcards accept >>to joystick inputs for the one port. >Now, I've heard that some machines have problems with a soundcard port. >Something about a speed difference issue. Could anyone enlighten me, please? >I've tried to run ICR2 on a P90 with a T1, and some of the tracks are just >plain undriveable. Would a different game card even HELP? Better display >card? Faster machine? You get the idea...

The best thing to use is a game card wih a speed adjustment.. some of the newer systems (i.e. Pentiums) poll the game port too often and make your joystick (t1 or T2) calibration waaaay of the scale. The solution is a speed-compensating game port that you can adjust the high and low ranges of your T1/T2. I found the easiest way to do it was in the Joystick calibration routine... simply adjust the game card, check the range of the calibration. you want to avoid getting ridiculously high numbers. Then if it comes up too high, clear the calibration and adjust the game card speed compensation and do it again. It takes a few tries usually but you only ever have to do it once. Just remember to recalibrate your joystick/T1/T2/Pedals in ALL of the games you play to make sure they are running on the compensated readings. And like I said before, the card that I bought works great and cost me a whole $12.99 Canadian dollars. You don't need to spend the 20-30-40 or whatever Gravis or Thrustmaster wants you to pay for their version.. just go to your local computer dealer and get whatever they carry but remember it MUST have that little adjustment knob on the back to be a speed-compensating game card! Weyr

>Do I need Thrustmaster's ACM game card to use the T2, or will it >work with a regular joystick port? > Max You should have a gamecard with adjustable speed controls, but it does not have to be a Thrustmaster... I used one I got from my local computer dealer for $11.99 (CAN). As long as it has that little pot on the back so you can adjust the calibration of the Thrustmaster, it should work great! Weyrleader Path: not-for-mail X-Nntp-Posting-Host: doom.idirect.com X-Client-Port: 1042 Newsgroups: alt.vampyres Subject: Re: World of Vampires X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII As a human I am quite offended by being refered to as mundane. As one of those lost to light I would expect to have the intelligence to understand what it means to respect another race and to treat them with dignity, not deprivation. At least we can be pure and watch the glory of a sunrise while you must hide in the shadows to avoid the light. I have a feeling that being immortal isn't all its cracked up to be, seeing friend after friend (if you even care to associate with our kind, our do you take what you need from us without any compassion or remorse for drianing the life out of us. Do you kill us when there is nothing left to take, do you leave us to die in the dark alley to die alone?) die while you are forced to live on. Living in your secret societies below lost to not only God but to yourself. I can't see anything romantic or pridefull in that way of life. Krystal ----------- "No one regards what is before his feet; we all gaze at the stars" Quintus Ennius

Long thread without an answer. Simple question. Will a separate speed variable game card improve frame rate over the Soundblaster joystick port on a P120, given the same graphics? bob

>Long thread without an answer. Simple question. Will a separate speed >variable game card improve frame rate over the Soundblaster joystick port >on a P120, given the same graphics? > bob No... a variable speed game card will NOT improve your frame rate. It will ONLY improve the calibration of certain types of controls such as a T1/T2 on a fast computer.

Tried it. NO improved frame rate at all!!! However it does calibrate to a lower level allowing sharper turning.

Thanks for a good answer. bob