Challange to Papyrus or The Pits

A challange to Papyrus or the Pits. For Papyrus, NASCAR is your sim, so I feel feel that you should make it better. Right now I, like everyone else, would like to see a new and improved NASCAR. But in the mean time, how about a patch? The most annoying thing to me is the quick yellow flags. I was racing on short tracks, and short tracks mean bumpin and rubbin. Bumpin and rubbin means YELLOW Even if neither cars wreck, yellow still comes out. Thats what racing is about. Gettin to know your opponents very well! To the Pits, I know your busy, but since you all make great progams, is it within your realm to make a fix on this? As much as I would like to see Daytona come out, I would much rather have the overall sim work much better. This is more important than Daytona. -- Eric Treaster

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> A challange to Papyrus or the Pits. For Papyrus, NASCAR is your sim, so I feel > feel that you should make it better. Right now I, like everyone else, would > like to see a new and improved NASCAR. But in the mean time, how about a patch? > The most annoying thing to me is the quick yellow flags. I was racing on short > tracks, and short tracks mean bumpin and rubbin. Bumpin and rubbin means YELLOW > Even if neither cars wreck, yellow still comes out. Thats what racing is about. > Gettin to know your opponents very well! To the Pits, I know your busy, but > since you all make great progams, is it within your realm to make a fix on this? > As much as I would like to see Daytona come out, I would much rather have the > overall sim work much better. This is more important than Daytona.

Exactly! I hate the fact that the yellows come out so easily in NCR. And this shouldn't be so hard to fix. I mean, they already did it in ICR2 ... -- Henrikki (Hena) Hakkanen Tel. ?(9)0-345 5538 -------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer

There has been some confusion recently regarding the availability of the license for Daytona. I asked one of our licensing people in-house, and the reply was that Sega has an *exclusive* license for the Daytona track at least through the end of 1996. So regardless of what that quoted e-mail from an unidentified person at Sega says, Papyrus/Sierra can not use the Daytona track at this time, no matter how much money we offer or how much Daytona would now like us to use it. Hoping this clears up the confusion. Rick Genter Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II Sierra On-Line

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>Subject: Sega's license to Daytona >Date: 16 Apr 1996 05:43:59 -0400 >There has been some confusion recently regarding the availability of the >license for Daytona. I asked one of our licensing people in-house, and the >reply was that Sega has an *exclusive* license for the Daytona track at >least through the end of 1996. So regardless of what that quoted e-mail >from an unidentified person at Sega says, Papyrus/Sierra can not use the >Daytona track at this time, no matter how much money we offer or how much >Daytona would now like us to use it. >Hoping this clears up the confusion. >Rick Genter >Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II >Sierra On-Line

You know, a lot of us appreciate your straightforward answers. I don't remember having this kind of access to ANY other company. Thanks, Rick. I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!? Eldred Pickett

Rick -- Man, you know I respect you guys.. but a word of advice. If Sega's license is up in 1996, then Papyrusierra had better be camped out on Bill France's doorstep on Dec. 31st at 11:59pm with contracts in hand for NASCAR v.2 (assuming it will be released)... otherwise, a whole screaming legion of NASCAR fans will advance on your corporate headquarters and stick lots of ice down everyone's pants. :-) Thanks, tj with:

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>There has been some confusion recently regarding the availability of the >license for Daytona. I asked one of our licensing people in-house, and the >reply was that Sega has an *exclusive* license for the Daytona track at >least through the end of 1996. So regardless of what that quoted e-mail >from an unidentified person at Sega says, Papyrus/Sierra can not use the >Daytona track at this time, no matter how much money we offer or how much >Daytona would now like us to use it. >Hoping this clears up the confusion. >Rick Genter >Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II >Sierra On-Line

_________________________________________ Tony Johns IWCCCARS Project Coordinator http://www.xmission.com/~iwcc/project.htm

I would like to see this problem fixed too. I hate when I am beside someone, we barely touch and the yellow comes out

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>There has been some confusion recently regarding the availability of the >license for Daytona. I asked one of our licensing people in-house, and the >reply was that Sega has an *exclusive* license for the Daytona track at >least through the end of 1996. So regardless of what that quoted e-mail >from an unidentified person at Sega says, Papyrus/Sierra can not use the >Daytona track at this time, no matter how much money we offer or how much >Daytona would now like us to use it. >Hoping this clears up the confusion. >Rick Genter >Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II >Sierra On-Line

Rick, That reminds me.... I think Papyrus/Sierra should contact Elton Sawyer he's in dire need of a Winston Cup Sponsor! Would be Direct Market Exposure! And then you guys would sell 3 times as many copies, then Sierra would give you guys a BIG budget to make software that even better than what you folks have developed now. And everybody would be real happy Be pretty cool Indeed~ Andy A

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>Rick -- >Man, you know I respect you guys.. but a word of advice. If Sega's >license is up in 1996, then Papyrusierra had better be camped out on >Bill France's doorstep on Dec. 31st at 11:59pm with contracts in hand >for NASCAR v.2 (assuming it will be released)... otherwise, a whole >screaming legion of NASCAR fans will advance on your corporate >headquarters and stick lots of ice down everyone's pants. >tj

We as loyal customers could meet them there with a few Sherman tanks to keep the sega/nintendo/sony/etc.etc. guys away. andy a

The idea sounds great but I am sure they couldn't afford to sponsor a guy like Elton. -- J Mark Piscitelli *******The subject of the above message is subject to subjection********

>To the Pits, I know your busy, but >since you all make great progams, is it within your realm to make a fix on this? >As much as I would like to see Daytona come out, I would much rather have the >overall sim work much better. This is more important than Daytona. Nice thought, but not that easy. I don't much fancy disassembling ICR2 into machine code and then wading through pile os code to locate a few bugs. After all the program isn't mine! At least if Papyrus are doing it, it should be done properly, and hopefully with a few more tweaks. Jed The Pits www.ukps.com/thepits www.fwb.gulf.net/~jkohl/thepits

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>Rick, >That reminds me.... I think Papyrus/Sierra should contact >Elton Sawyer he's in dire need of a Winston Cup Sponsor! >Would be Direct Market Exposure! And then you guys would >sell 3 times as many copies, then Sierra would give you guys >a BIG budget to make software that even better than what you >folks have developed now. And everybody would be real happy

Imagine when the multiplayer network comes out, and it's "race with Elton Sawyer online!" that'd be cool! Go #6 Mark Martin,#16 Ted Musgrave & #99 Jeff Burton - Jack Roush Racing!! NASCAR Racing!! http://camalott.com/~sean/nascar/nascar.htm <--NASCAR Racing Sim page

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>That reminds me.... I think Papyrus/Sierra should contact >Elton Sawyer he's in dire need of a Winston Cup Sponsor! >Would be Direct Market Exposure! And then you guys would >sell 3 times as many copies, then Sierra would give you guys >a BIG budget to make software that even better than what you >folks have developed now. And everybody would be real happy >Be pretty cool Indeed~ >Andy A

Great idea! I second the motion.

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>Rick -- >Man, you know I respect you guys.. but a word of advice. If Sega's >license is up in 1996, then Papyrusierra had better be camped out on >Bill France's doorstep on Dec. 31st at 11:59pm with contracts in hand >for NASCAR v.2 (assuming it will be released)... otherwise, a whole >screaming legion of NASCAR fans will advance on your corporate >headquarters and stick lots of ice down everyone's pants. >:-) >Thanks, >tj

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That's great!! Just a question....what's in the works from Papyrus? Or is there one of those *** little 'do not reveal info' clauses circulating around? I have shelved ICR2 and Nascar for the time being because it's just too damn frustrating trying to run them on a 486SX33 w/ 8 megs and no video card. I'd camp out in front of computer city if I knew you were gonna do an NHRA sim...unemployed or no, I'd fork over those $50 that I shouldn't for that one... Oh well.....anyone ever figure out how the HELL to get past the construction area on mulholland drive in Street Rod 2? I've got a maxed out 68 Vette, a maxed out 69 Gt500 and $15K in the bank, won everything except mulholland, it's the middle of july, but the damn king won't race me because I haven't won any mulholland races yet. If I could figure out how to FINISH them, I could win them. Every time I hit that construction zone, I crash...100 MPH, 2 MPH, 1st gear, neutral, it doesn't matter....I've never been able to get past it. ANYONE? HELP!!! -Bill

Well, If they could turn damage off on his car it might help. :-)) -- | Dave Vollman Cogito, ergo stipendium | Lucent Technologies, Naperville, IL | Lucent would never let ME speak for THEM!

>The idea sounds great but I am sure they couldn't afford to sponsor a guy >like Elton. >-- >J Mark Piscitelli Elton Sawyer ain't exactly Dale Earnhardt I think they might be able to get on as an associate sponsor but a full deal is still mega$$$$. It would be great to see as I have told people at the races about the game and they said they were thinking about buying a computer but now are definetly. They got really pumped up when I told them about the MUltiplayer Network that was supposed to be ready by now ;-(

writes: Don't say Sherman too loud down here in the South , they are still a little senstive about that name.<g>

>A challange to Papyrus or the Pits. For Papyrus, NASCAR is your sim, so I feel >feel that you should make it better. Right now I, like everyone else, would >like to see a new and improved NASCAR. But in the mean time, how about a patch? >The most annoying thing to me is the quick yellow flags. I was racing on short >tracks, and short tracks mean bumpin and rubbin. Bumpin and rubbin means YELLOW >Even if neither cars wreck, yellow still comes out. Thats what racing is about. >Gettin to know your opponents very well! To the Pits, I know your busy, but >since you all make great progams, is it within your realm to make a fix on this? >As much as I would like to see Daytona come out, I would much rather have the >overall sim work much better. This is more important than Daytona. >-- >Eric Treaster Several of us asked Papyrus about this waaaaay back when. The reply (and I can understand it) is that they were limited in resources and they could either keep patching NR (which needs only some tweaks) or work on NR2 (new, improved, tweaked out). They decided to work on NR2. I can live with that. As for Daytona: First, you gotta figure out how to get SEGA to give up the rights..... -- Dean Robb (WB: Raz1) PC-Easy On-site computer services and consulting