Here's a quote from this months PC Gamer (UK).
..."We think it all went wrong whwn GP2 hit Microprose
USA.The US like more kicks in their games, and
suggested a few additions.
Geoff is a perfectioist and wanted to make the game as
complete as possible.So here's whats in the process of
being changed;Full car break-ups, smoke ti illustrate
engine blow ups and wheel spin;light sourcing on in sand
traps;Complete Windows 95 compatability;and best of all
Crammond is now adding individual driver characteristics
(aggressivnrss,selfishness etc.)to the game...GP2 is now
set for a late May release."
MC
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>Here's a quote from this months PC Gamer (UK). >..."We think it all went wrong whwn GP2 hit Microprose >USA.The US like more kicks in their games, and >suggested a few additions. >Geoff is a perfectioist and wanted to make the game as >complete as possible.So here's whats in the process of >being changed;Full car break-ups, smoke ti illustrate >engine blow ups and wheel spin;light sourcing on in sand >traps;Complete Windows 95 compatability;and best of all >Crammond is now adding individual driver characteristics >(aggressivnrss,selfishness etc.)to the game...GP2 is now >set for a late May release."Did PC Gamer make this up all by themselves or did Microprose help them?
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the software companies tell us so."
We'll be reading the above in Edge next. ;-)
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The tire smoke and engine blowups, complete with fantastic oil smoke
effect were visible at the ECTS show. The kerbs appeared to be light
sourced but not the sand traps, although the ploughed 'furrows' were
mapped on. Car breakups were of the minor kind I felt - hit a wall at
150mph and your front wing and wheels fly off, not the total
disintegration that would really happen. If he is adding debris to the
crashes as with ICR2, that would be a nice addition. Although I might
not want the game held up for it :-)
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Thanks for the info, but what's "light sourcing"?
Tom Bromberger Alesi '96 WC
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The light will reflect off the various car shiny surfaces.
Imagine a *** red ferrari in a replay with the
sunlight playing across the body and wing surfaces
as it twists around say ..Monaco.....
That's what it looks like.
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>>You Say ... >>>Thanks for the info, but what's "light sourcing"? >>>Tom Bromberger Alesi '96 WC >>The light will reflect off the various car shiny surfaces. >>Imagine a *** red ferrari in a replay with the >>sunlight playing across the body and wing surfaces >>as it twists around say ..Monaco..... >>That's what it looks like. >You must be joking...no games can do that...can they?Quoted text (12 lines)
>>You Say ... >>>Thanks for the info, but what's "light sourcing"? >>>Tom Bromberger Alesi '96 WC >>The light will reflect off the various car shiny surfaces. >>Imagine a *** red ferrari in a replay with the >>sunlight playing across the body and wing surfaces >>as it twists around say ..Monaco..... >>That's what it looks like. >You must be joking...no games can do that...can they?Quoted text (13 lines)
>>You Say ... >>>Thanks for the info, but what's "light sourcing"? >>>Tom Bromberger Alesi '96 WC >>The light will reflect off the various car shiny surfaces. >>Imagine a *** red ferrari in a replay with the >>sunlight playing across the body and wing surfaces >>as it twists around say ..Monaco..... >>That's what it looks like. >You must be joking...no games can do that...can they?You're half-right :)
It IS processor intensive, but this game does it NOW. It looks helluva
good too!
Cheers!
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All the screenshots that I have seen prove that the reflections ARE there (but
it will only be achievable in realtime on fast machines).
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?>That particular feature seems to have been there since a very early stage,
?>as Crammond says he wants the game as realistic as possible, I guess he
?>means both simulation-wise, and 3d-world-wise too. I saw something about
?>the light reflections in a magazine almost 12 months ago. Yawn. Wish it
?>would just hurry up and get finished.
?> Rob.
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?All the screenshots that I have seen prove that the reflections ARE there (but
?it will only be achievable in realtime on fast machines).
Fast being what, say P133s and up? <crossing fingers>
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>>>You Say ... >>>>Thanks for the info, but what's "light sourcing"? >>>>Tom Bromberger Alesi '96 WC >>>The light will reflect off the various car shiny surfaces. >>>Imagine a *** red ferrari in a replay with the >>>sunlight playing across the body and wing surfaces >>>as it twists around say ..Monaco..... >>>That's what it looks like. >>You must be joking...no games can do that...can they? >I believe Descent is light sourced? And Quake is going to be. >Gertjan Westeneng> I am not sure what 'light sourced' actually means but yes, with
> Descent I noticed when I fired my lasers down the darkened corridor,
> it was lit up as the bolt went along. Excellent effects.
'Light sourced' actually mean that the light - shining on the moving objects -
is fixed, i.e. placed at a certain point. So when the objects (the cars) move,
and the light has shone, say, on the left side of the monocoque, it will move
accross the car as the car turns around a corner. It IS real, it IS going to
happen with GP2! I've seen in on many many screenshots. And as said earlier,
it's going to demand a Pentium for sure!
ICR2 is going to BITE the dust .... not that I don't like THAT game. Both ICRs
and both GPs are great!
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>>>>You Say ... >>>>>Thanks for the info, but what's "light sourcing"? >>>>>Tom Bromberger Alesi '96 WC >>>>The light will reflect off the various car shiny surfaces. >>>>Imagine a *** red ferrari in a replay with the >>>>sunlight playing across the body and wing surfaces >>>>as it twists around say ..Monaco..... >>>>That's what it looks like. >>>You must be joking...no games can do that...can they? >>I believe Descent is light sourced? And Quake is going to be. >>Gertjan Westeneng >I am not sure what 'light sourced' actually means but yes, with >Descent I noticed when I fired my lasers down the darkened corridor, >it was lit up as the bolt went along. Excellent effects. >Craig. >****************************************************************************>'Light sourced' actually mean that the light - shining on the moving objects -
>is fixed, i.e. placed at a certain point. So when the objects (the cars) move,
>and the light has shone, say, on the left side of the monocoque, it will move
>accross the car as the car turns around a corner.
The effect you describe is called "specular reflection" and is a bit
more specific than light sourcing which is simply changing the colour
intensity of a surface appropriate to its orientation relative to a
source of light.
Everyone will probably have heard of Gouraud shading (linear
interpolation of colour intensity across a surface giving a rounded
appearance). Specular reflection effects are based on Phong shading,
the inner workings of which are described in most University level
computer graphics textbooks. Phong shading is computationally very
expensive compared to Gouraud shading, and GP2 will probably be the
first commercial computer game to have this effect. Just further proof
that Geoff Crammond is indeed God !
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