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Talledega start

9 posts by 7 people · 03 May 1996 - 08 May 1996

Don Turcott 03 May 1996#317711
Here I am, sitting 5th on the start, waiting for the green to drop. Damage and Yellow turned on. No pace.Qaulified around 194.5xx. The green drops and I get blown away by at least 4 or 5 cars, until I get up to speed. I'd like to know if most front runners are using manual shift. Using a T1 myself, <sigh>, I have no choice but to use auto shifting. We all know how good the T1 shifter is <g>. I'm not asking for anyone to "give up" their setup secrets. I need to know if I need to work on my gearing or take the plunge and get a TSW or ( is it ECC) , for better shifting. There goes my phone bill AND credit card! Don Turcotte DonT
: Here I am, sitting 5th on the start, waiting for the green : to drop. Damage and Yellow turned on. No pace.Qaulified around : 194.5xx. The green drops and I get blown away by at least 4 or : 5 cars, until I get up to speed. I'd like to know if most front : runners are using manual shift. Using a T1 myself, <sigh>, I have : no choice but to use auto shifting. We all know how good the T1 : shifter is <g>. I'm not asking for anyone to "give up" their setup : secrets. I need to know if I need to work on my gearing or take the : plunge and get a TSW or ( is it ECC) , for better shifting. I almost never have a problem shifting with my T1. When I do it's usually my fault. When shifting up I place the ball of the stick just above the heel of my hand. I place my fingers up on the dash and push the stick forward. The important thing to remember is "release" after shifting. Totally relax your hand or remove it from the stick. To shift down, I wrap my fingers around the ball of the stick and place my thumb on the box-base of the shifter and pull back. Again, it is VERY important to totally relax or remove your hand from the shifter. If the shifter doesn't reset itself, the next movement is not registered. -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
: To : shift down, I wrap my fingers around the ball of the stick and place my : thumb on the box-base of the shifter and pull back. Again, it is VERY : important to totally relax or remove your hand from the shifter. If the : shifter doesn't reset itself, the next movement is not registered. Let me revise that... I was trying to recreate what I do when I wasn't doing it... To shift down I wrap my fingers around the ball of the stick and place the heel of my hand ont he box-base of the shifter and pull back. This method of shifting is how I learned to shift 4 or 5 on the floor... You put the hand away from the direction you will be shifting. Actually now that I think of it that's how I was taught to shift on the column to. Most people just grab the handle and move the shifter. But the pros push or pull the shifter. This method makes it less likely to miss the gear you are aiming for. Hope this helps... -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
John Cal 05 May 1996#317878
Well Don, You could try running a little shorter 3rd gear. Don't go overboard, but maybe just a couple of hits on the shorter side. That should help you accelerate on the start. You could work with making the 4th gear shorter as well, but I wouldn't suggest it, as doing this will change your trap [top] speeds and everything, but you can work with it and see what you come up with. As far as manual and automatic shifting, I have found that manual will help you accelerate faster because YOU tell the computer when to shift. I found that, when shifiting into fourth gear, it is usually better to let the needle go a little past 9,000rpms before shifting. That might provide a little better acceleration. I don't know much about a T1; I have a T2 but don't know the differences. If you don't want to shift with your T1, maybe you can setup the controls so that you can use the keyboard to shift. (Can you do this? ???) You know, maybe page up to shift up, page down to shift down, whatever. Well, good luck... John
Mike Manthe 06 May 1996#317963
<snip> The green drops and I get blown away by at least 4 or I think it's more the gear ratio in 1st (and maybe 2nd gear) that give the others that advantage from a standing start. Mike
Eric Busch 06 May 1996#317964
> I think it's more the gear ratio in 1st (and maybe 2nd gear) that give > the others that advantage from a standing start. True they can change gears to get an advantage on the standing start, but you can't get something for nothing. To get the kind of jump that some do, you wind up sacrificing speed in turn 2 and the back straight due to change in gearing. The setup I'm using is not the fastest into turn 1, as I usually get passed by one or two cars. But once I hit second and third gears in turn 2 and the back stretch, 90% of the time I've moved up to between first to third place by turn 3 (from a usual qualifying spot between 4th to 10th). -- Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/ Hawaii Network UserName: Buschwick (5)
Paul Harmo 06 May 1996#317965
Quoted text (9 lines)> <snip> > The green drops and I get blown away by at least 4 or > > 5 cars, until I get up to speed. I'd like to know if most front<snip> > > Don Turcotte > > DonT > I think it's more the gear ratio in 1st (and maybe 2nd gear) that give > the others that advantage from a standing start. > Mike
actually theres a "glitch" that allows the other cars tires to heat up much faster than yours and get the jump on starts and restarts wildcard
Quoted text (9 lines)> <snip> > The green drops and I get blown away by at least 4 or > > 5 cars, until I get up to speed. I'd like to know if most front<snip> > > Don Turcotte > > DonT > I think it's more the gear ratio in 1st (and maybe 2nd gear) that give > the others that advantage from a standing start. > Mike
>Theres a "glitch" that allows the other cars tires to heat up > much faster than yours and get the jump on starts and restarts Precisely, how does one "implement" this glitch :>
Mike Manthe 08 May 1996#318172
> actually theres a "glitch" that allows the other cars tires to heat up > much faster than yours and get the jump on starts and restarts > wildcard =========================== Care to elaborate on that? ===========================

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