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Stagger (ICR2), help me...

5 posts by 5 people · 28 May 1996 - 31 May 1996

s.a.ozing 28 May 1996#320223
I'm a little confused here. I read that stagger will compensate for the fact that one wheel is turning faster than the other. I can see that it will work for ovals, but what is the use in street racing (road courses). In most cases you'll make about equally as much left turns as right hand turns. Could some one help me on this, and coorect me if I'm wrong. S.A. Ozinga van Musschenbroekstraat 58 II 7533 XP Enschede +31 (0)53- 4 31 91 00 The Netherlands ......................................... ......................................... ...This Message will NOT self-destruct...
On Tue, 28 May 96 00:01:39 CST, "s.a.ozinga"
Quoted text (7 lines)>I'm a little confused here. I read that stagger will compensate for the >fact that one wheel is turning faster than the other. I can see that it >will work for ovals, but what is the use in street racing (road courses). >In most cases you'll make about equally as much left turns as right hand >turns. >Could some one help me on this, and coorect me if I'm wrong.
Well, if you're lapping clockwise (e.g. Elkhart Lake), you will be making more right hand turns than left hand - think about it <g> Whether it helps is another matter - depends on the speed of the corners, I suppose! -- All opinions my own - they're probably wrong... but at least they're mine!
David Spark 28 May 1996#320225
>I'm a little confused here. I read that stagger will compensate for the >fact that one wheel is turning faster than the other. I can see that it >will work for ovals, but what is the use in street racing (road courses). >In most cases you'll make about equally as much left turns as right hand >turns. Actually, this isn't true for most closed circuit courses. No matter what the combination of left-handers and right-handers, you have to go 360 degrees more in one direction than the other to close the circuit. Exceptions are courses like Suzuka and Fiorano, where the track crosses over itself and there is an equal amount of left and right hand turning. Dave "davids" Sparks Sequoia Motorsports
> >I'm a little confused here. I read that stagger will compensate for the > >fact that one wheel is turning faster than the other. I can see that it > >will work for ovals, but what is the use in street racing (road courses). > >In most cases you'll make about equally as much left turns as right hand > >turns. I have found at Clevland in particular a little stagger can help those high speed right handers
Gregory Fu 31 May 1996#320526
>I'm a little confused here. I read that stagger will compensate for the >fact that one wheel is turning faster than the other. I can see that it >will work for ovals, but what is the use in street racing (road courses). >In most cases you'll make about equally as much left turns as right hand >turns. Stagger has always been something of a mystery for me on road courses. It does seem to make putting power down slightly more difficult. For eg, at Detroit, a right hand turning circuit, I experimented on putting POSITIVE stagger, or going the opposite way, and it made the car easier to handle coming out of the right hand hairpin. I've also noticed that the rear-end isn't so "grip ON - grip OFF" with slight stagger on road-courses. The rear end seems stick with a smoother transition. The same situation happens at ovals, but usually you want the "OFF" mode to drift the car for top times. If anyone has anything to add, please. I've played icr and icr2 for 18months now and still have much to learn.

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