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Hawaii Concern?!

11 posts by 7 people · 27 Jun 1996 - 02 Jul 1996

Ed, I have a question that has recently been bothering me and now that the sponsorship info has been delivered to us I am really wondering. I for one have not had a chance to get on the MP system yet. The reason is because I simply can't afford the phone bill from North Carolina to Boston. I'm sure several other folks out there have the same problem as well. Now for my question. Obviously several people have already tried out the system and they have done so quite often. What happens when it opens up with local or 800 numbers so everyone can access? Does everyone that has been unable to connect during beta get snubbed when it comes to getting into the elite NRL divisions?? I'm far from one of the best Nascar drivers but I am good enough to be in the top ten of the hardest division of the NASS series. Just because I can't afford a phone call to establish a high skill level am I going to be looked over when it comes to creating leagues? I know several others are in the same boat that I am so I'm sure any answers would be greatly appreciated. Kelby Cody
BMotis 27 Jun 1996#323499
I was also wondering are we going to keep the same skill level when it continues or will everyones go back to 0
Ed Martin 27 Jun 1996#323500
As far as the NRL goes, everyone will be able to join.. whether you've used the prototype or not. As for skill levels, yes, the skill levels from the prototype will carry over into the real service once complete. Although I understand what you're saying, can you honestly say that it's fair the other way? I mean we've got people spending a lot of their own money to help us perfect Hawaii & turn it into NRL. It seems to me the least we can do is to preserve their racing records. Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
BMotis 27 Jun 1996#323501
Well iam one of those people i was hoping they were going to remain. I built my self should be a 10 anyday now but i would hate to lose all that time and money.
Thanks for the replies. I am not saying the guys that spent money should be dropped back to 0. That would be an awful thing to those that have spent money playing and working on their ratings. I am just hoping we all have an equal opportunity to get into the top divisions?? Kelby Cody
Ed Martin 28 Jun 1996#323638
Believe me, you will have the opportunity. :-) Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
> Thanks for the replies. I am not saying the guys that spent money should > be dropped back to 0. That would be an awful thing to those that have spent > money playing and working on their ratings. I am just hoping we all have an > equal opportunity to get into the top divisions?? I understand what you mean, so don't get me wrong. However, as closed beta tester I can tell you this...You could be the hottest driver with AI cars this side of the mississippi, but driving online with real drivers and real idiots, it takes hours of driving on different tracks to even think about joining an elite league. Trust me on this..everyone who thought they were good before they joined, generally gets humbled quickly. So as to yourself in NRL..when you finally join and start racing, if you are good enough, it doesn't take that long to get a decent rating. It's not like you'll have to be on for 8 months..the ratings are currently reevaluated based on a rotating last 10 races..so it's quantity of races, not length of time on the system. It's my understanding that even that will eventually be updated to change your rating(if it does change) after every race. KenH
>I was also wondering are we going to keep the same skill level when it >continues or will everyones go back to 0 Skill levels will be transferred over to any new system, if there is any way for us to do so. Rating systems work much better when you've got a fairly accurate "pre-seeding", so we _want_ to keep existing ratings in any transition of rating system or service provider. Charlie Heath Papyrus Design Group
>Just because I can't afford a phone call to establish a high skill level am >I going to be looked over when it comes to creating leagues? I know >several others are in the same boat that I am so I'm sure any answers would be >greatly appreciated. Kelby - Sorry, you will have to "pay your dues" to get your ranking up into the top tiers, but if you're really as good as the top tier drivers, you can move through the ranks pretty quickly. We're planning the NRL tournament series as quarterly events, so I'd guess worst case would be that you'd need to work your way up the ranks for one quarter before you could qualify for a higher tier. The alternative would be that we would have to delay _all_ NRL series racing until several months after we launch the service, since we would need to establish a statistically valid set of ratings from ground zero before we could set up racing tiers! Keep up your single and two-player racing, and pay particular attention to racing in traffic rather than learning how to trick the AI cars, and you should be able to get your driving skill up to par for Hawaii driving. Hope we'll see you on the service once we've figured out how to deliver something to you at a reasonable cost ... Charlie Heath Papyrus Design Group
David Spark 01 Jul 1996#324041
>So as to yourself in NRL..when you finally join and start racing, if you >are good enough, it doesn't take that long to get a decent rating. To expound on this, 17 percent of the drivers on Hawaii are Level 7 and above. The average number of starts for a Level 7 driver is 94. If you are good, you will move up more quickly than that. For example, it only took me 3 races to move from Level 8 to Level 9. Dave "davids" Sparks Sequoia Motorsports
Chuck Stuar 02 Jul 1996#324216
Quoted text (17 lines)> Ed, I have a question that has recently been bothering me and now that > the sponsorship info has been delivered to us I am really wondering. > I for one have not had a chance to get on the MP system yet. The reason is > because I simply can't afford the phone bill from North Carolina to Boston. > I'm sure several other folks out there have the same problem as well. Now > for my question. Obviously several people have already tried out the system > and they have done so quite often. What happens when it opens up with > local or 800 numbers so everyone can access? Does everyone that has been > unable to connect during beta get snubbed when it comes to getting into the > elite NRL divisions?? I'm far from one of the best Nascar drivers but I am > good enough to be in the top ten of the hardest division of the NASS series. > Just because I can't afford a phone call to establish a high skill level am > I going to be looked over when it comes to creating leagues? I know several > others are in the same boat that I am so I'm sure any answers would be greatly > appreciated. > Kelby Cody
You can be a skill 7 or 8 in less than 30 races. Your rating will be free while ours will have cost several thousand dollars. Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

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