RBR: Advanced powerslide lesson

Ok, now I realise just why I was so slow in GPL... I'm rubbish! It's taken me about 20 attempts before I got a success on this lesson. For those as yet un-RBRed amongst us, basically it's a wide (coned) track in an S-shape. You hit ~60kph in 2nd gear, flick out the back end for a powersliding 180, then the same again soon after, leaving you travelling in the direction you were originally headed. No handbrake allowed (damn!) Looks absolutely superb in the demo playback. Very professional. But my attempts look like the teenagers who wreck their cars in the carpark behind where I live. Embarrassing! I only just manage to scrape in under the 15 second time limit (a second or two slower than the demo), and there's a lot of hit & miss about my attempts. Ok, I could move on to the next test now I've passed, but I really feel I need to get this right and feel in control... because god only knows how I'll manage otherwise trying to use this technique to aid my course times! The interesting thing about this experience is that it reminds me of the learning curve in GPL. You can drive the courses quite fast without too much effort. But to drive them *properly* is a whole different ball game, and there's a lot to be learned. As someone else pointed out in a recent post, it gives you renewed respect for those complete nutters who do this for real with trees within spitting distance either side of the track. Andrew McP... off to play a little gentle Doom3 to wind down ;-)

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> > Ok, now I realise just why I was so slow in GPL... I'm rubbish! It's taken > me about 20 attempts before I got a success on this lesson. > > For those as yet un-RBRed amongst us, basically it's a wide (coned) track > in an S-shape. You hit ~60kph in 2nd gear, flick out the back end for a > powersliding 180, then the same again soon after, leaving you travelling > in the direction you were originally headed. No handbrake allowed (damn!) > > Looks absolutely superb in the demo playback. Very professional. But my > attempts look like the teenagers who wreck their cars in the carpark > behind where I live. Embarrassing! I only just manage to scrape in under > the 15 second time limit (a second or two slower than the demo), and > there's a lot of hit & miss about my attempts.

Hmm, I think I did it on my first or second try. I had a real easy time with the rally school, except for the last one

Hey man, This was the hardest test for me as well. I got silver in it right away, but when I went back to change the 3 silvers to gold, this was the hardest one!! When you do change them all to gold, you unlock the 2000 impreza! To get gold, you have to beat 14s, and I got 13.9x I think after about 20 attempts. My thing was to drive in at a bit higher than 60 if you can get away wtih it (it'll be mad if you go to fast) swing wide, let off the gas, swing into the corner and gas it so the nose almost hits the apex cone... accellerate out and head wide for the next corner, do the same... I think the key to beating that 14s is to get the powerslide positioned just right so that you aren't going wide and you're practically hitting the cones on the apex.. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Ok, now I realise just why I was so slow in GPL... I'm rubbish! It's taken > me about 20 attempts before I got a success on this lesson. > > For those as yet un-RBRed amongst us, basically it's a wide (coned) track > in an S-shape. You hit ~60kph in 2nd gear, flick out the back end for a > powersliding 180, then the same again soon after, leaving you travelling > in the direction you were originally headed. No handbrake allowed (damn!) > > Looks absolutely superb in the demo playback. Very professional. But my > attempts look like the teenagers who wreck their cars in the carpark > behind where I live. Embarrassing! I only just manage to scrape in under > the 15 second time limit (a second or two slower than the demo), and > there's a lot of hit & miss about my attempts. > > Ok, I could move on to the next test now I've passed, but I really feel I > need to get this right and feel in control... because god only knows how > I'll manage otherwise trying to use this technique to aid my course times! > > The interesting thing about this experience is that it reminds me of the > learning curve in GPL. You can drive the courses quite fast without too > much effort. But to drive them *properly* is a whole different ball game, > and there's a lot to be learned. > > As someone else pointed out in a recent post, it gives you renewed respect > for those complete nutters who do this for real with trees within spitting > distance either side of the track. > > Andrew McP... off to play a little gentle Doom3 to wind down ;-)

"Andrew MacPherson" wrote: > Looks absolutely superb in the demo playback. Very professional. But my > attempts look like the teenagers who wreck their cars in the carpark > behind where I live. Embarrassing! I only just manage to scrape in under > the 15 second time limit (a second or two slower than the demo), and > there's a lot of hit & miss about my attempts. I found it tough too. Managed to get the gold award after a number of determined attempts but it sure didn't look as good as the demo! BTW I love the replays - the car moves around in a realistic manner, fantastic! My only gripe is the lack of split axis support for my Formula Pro. I end up with an inverted brake :( If ever a game needs split axis it is this one, indeed to get through the school I had to hit a key to brake & accelerate at the same time as required. Cheers Tony

> BTW I love the replays - the car moves around in a realistic manner, > fantastic! You know, aside from the fact that the front wheels never turn in the corners.. Mike

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> "Andrew MacPherson" wrote: > > > Looks absolutely superb in the demo playback. Very professional. But my > > attempts look like the teenagers who wreck their cars in the carpark > > behind where I live. Embarrassing! I only just manage to scrape in under > > the 15 second time limit (a second or two slower than the demo), and > > there's a lot of hit & miss about my attempts. > > I found it tough too. Managed to get the gold award after a number of > determined attempts but it sure didn't look as good as the demo! > > BTW I love the replays - the car moves around in a realistic manner, > fantastic! > > My only gripe is the lack of split axis support for my Formula Pro. I end

up > with an inverted brake :( If ever a game needs split axis it is this one, > indeed to get through the school I had to hit a key to brake & accelerateat > the same time as required. It picked up the split axis on my Red leather MOMO right off the bat, I've heard this gripe a few times though . . . . one guy even had the same wheel as mine, quite strange. DN > > Cheers > Tony > > >

The only tip I can give is to try to keep the wheel as straight as possible, with a slight lean toward oversteer if necessary. Try to balance the car through the turns with the gas and brake (lotsa LFB'ing) instead of working the wheel...and of course...take a tighter line on the first curve to haul ass out of the second. Thanks, Alex "one of those complete nutters" Kihurani "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Ok, now I realise just why I was so slow in GPL... I'm rubbish! It's taken > me about 20 attempts before I got a success on this lesson. > > For those as yet un-RBRed amongst us, basically it's a wide (coned) track > in an S-shape. You hit ~60kph in 2nd gear, flick out the back end for a > powersliding 180, then the same again soon after, leaving you travelling > in the direction you were originally headed. No handbrake allowed (damn!) > > Looks absolutely superb in the demo playback. Very professional. But my > attempts look like the teenagers who wreck their cars in the carpark > behind where I live. Embarrassing! I only just manage to scrape in under > the 15 second time limit (a second or two slower than the demo), and > there's a lot of hit & miss about my attempts. > > Ok, I could move on to the next test now I've passed, but I really feel I > need to get this right and feel in control... because god only knows how > I'll manage otherwise trying to use this technique to aid my course times! > > The interesting thing about this experience is that it reminds me of the > learning curve in GPL. You can drive the courses quite fast without too > much effort. But to drive them *properly* is a whole different ball game, > and there's a lot to be learned. > > As someone else pointed out in a recent post, it gives you renewed respect > for those complete nutters who do this for real with trees within spitting > distance either side of the track. > > Andrew McP... off to play a little gentle Doom3 to wind down ;-)

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> > "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> Ok, now I realise just why I was so slow in GPL... I'm rubbish! It's >> taken >> me about 20 attempts before I got a success on this lesson. >> >> For those as yet un-RBRed amongst us, basically it's a wide (coned) track >> in an S-shape. You hit ~60kph in 2nd gear, flick out the back end for a >> powersliding 180, then the same again soon after, leaving you travelling >> in the direction you were originally headed. No handbrake allowed (damn!) >> >> Looks absolutely superb in the demo playback. Very professional. But my >> attempts look like the teenagers who wreck their cars in the carpark >> behind where I live. Embarrassing! I only just manage to scrape in under >> the 15 second time limit (a second or two slower than the demo), and >> there's a lot of hit & miss about my attempts. > > Hmm, I think I did it on my first or second try. I had a real easy time > with the rally school, except for the last one >

While the Rally school is not excruciatingly difficult, I at least have a lot to learn about effective powersliding and turning. Rally game racing has always been one of my favorites, along with maybe GT racing (a la SCGT and GTR) and F1. I never cared much for oval racing, especially NASCAR. Indy racing is moderately fun. Forza (to return to the XBox motif) is going to be a riot. :) Alanb

In article <n2N%c.1989$sS4.1520@trndny03>, [email hidden] (Alex Kihurani) wrote: > The only tip I can give i Thanks. I think my biggest problem is speed. I think when it says 60 it *means* 60... not 80 or 90 :-) Andrew McP

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> In article <n2N%c.1989$sS4.1520@trndny03>, [email hidden] (Alex > Kihurani) wrote: > >> The only tip I can give i > > Thanks. I think my biggest problem is speed. I think when it says 60 it > *means* 60... not 80 or 90 :-) > > Andrew McP

I realized I didnt get the gold so I tried a few more times and got it. I never had to left foot brake, just let off the gas and swing the car around then give it a little throttle so the wheels can bite and get you going forward without losing too much time sliding

"Mike Beauchamp" wrote: > > BTW I love the replays - the car moves around in a realistic manner, > > fantastic! > > You know, aside from the fact that the front wheels never turn in the > corners.. I tend to hide them in the foliage so I don't see them :)

> You know, aside from the fact that the front wheels never turn in the > corners.. I've heard a few people say this - must be a bug in the PC version since they definitely turn in the PS2/Xbox versions. If so, then I'm sure it will be one of the first things they fix if a patch comes out.

I too had a lot of trouble getting this to 'perfect'. My problem was I was letting go of the throttle way to much - once I realised I had to use lots of throttle to get the car in the power slide it was relatively easy :-)