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Sierras Tactics

5 posts by 4 people · 06 Jul 1996 - 12 Jul 1996

yma 06 Jul 1996#324818
My theory on the Indycar 2 patch is this. Sierra have released a fixed up version of the game with the Win95 version included before the dos patch is released in hopes of selling as many copies as possible to those who can't wait and will cave in and buy the Dos/Win95 version. They'll probably hold back on releasing the patch as long as possible to satisfy their bottom line. Typical big business decision. If Papyrus had not been taken over by Sierra several months ago, I believe that customer loyalty would have been a priority and the patch would have been released long ago even if it did not correct all the problems, just something to hold us over.
yma 06 Jul 1996#324819
Addendum: Sierra has now done away with manuals. Instead they use Windows help file. They claim it's to save paper but I'm sure it doesn't hurt to help reduce costs which never get passed on to the customers. Recent titles include Earthsiege 2, Missionforce: ***storm and FPS: Baseball 96.
>Addendum: Sierra has now done away with manuals. Instead they use Windows >help file. They claim it's to save paper but I'm sure it doesn't hurt to help >reduce costs which never get passed on to the customers. Recent titles include >Earthsiege 2, Missionforce: ***storm and FPS: Baseball 96. Which is why Sierra won't see a single purchase from me if there is no paper manual. Used to be when I would see a nice sim at a neighbor's house that he had gotten via WAREZ, I would go out and BUY the game so that I could have the full documentation et al. Now I guess there really isn't any reason to go out and buy that game if it's a Sierra title, since they don't respect their customers enough to include a paper manual. I'm sure Warez Pirates have cheered Sierra's great marketing decision. Sierra if you happen to see this, I bought Jane's Longbow recently, and one of the reasons I did was because I had heard what a great manual it came with. Sure would have a tough time dragging the monitor into the bathroom to do a bit of reading up on the game. Oh well, I am sorry Papyrus is now part of the Sierra family, no more great Track Guides in the future, maybe the Sierra family also includes the publishers of those aftermarket game guides which we have to fork out another $20.00 for, and this is a way to force us to buy them. Too bad Papyrus, I guess our fears when you first announced the Sierra buyout really are coming true, I can only hope that Papyrus manages to keep the "realism" that their sims are famous for, I'm hoping that ICR3 will not go the way of Sierra's A-10 flight sim. Cheers. --John -- ------------------- John (Joao) Silva http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jsilva Seattle, Washington USA.
EldredP 11 Jul 1996#325530
Quoted text (17 lines)>Subject: Re: Sierras Tactics >Date: 6 Jul 1996 09:01:42 GMT >>My theory on the Indycar 2 patch is this. Sierra have released a fixed up >>version of the game with the Win95 version included before the dos patch is >>released in hopes of selling as many copies as possible to those who can't >wait >>and will cave in and buy the Dos/Win95 version. They'll probably hold back on >>releasing the patch as long as possible to satisfy their bottom line. Typical >>big business decision. If Papyrus had not been taken over by Sierra several >>months ago, I believe that customer loyalty would have been a priority and the >>patch would have been released long ago even if it did not correct all the >>problems, just something to hold us over. >Addendum: Sierra has now done away with manuals. Instead they use Windows >help file. They claim it's to save paper but I'm sure it doesn't hurt to help >reduce costs which never get passed on to the customers. Recent titles include >Earthsiege 2, Missionforce: ***storm and FPS: Baseball 96.
So are there no more DOS versions, only win95? If so, I sure in HELL won't be buying any more programs from them. I can't STAND win95 (My machine probably wouldn't run them even I *could*) ________ Eldred Pickett I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?
Jo 12 Jul 1996#325692
Your theory sounds plausable (I've edited it out for brevity of my post), but I wonder if Sierra really is actually plotting to make people go out and buy it a second time, or if they are just oblivious. I mean, if they were paying attention to what is happening, they'd be worried about damage control by this point. People are absolutely disgusted- you have heard, perhaps, that people who bought it are saying the yellow flag bug is still on the new version? And now I understand that a "return the original (1st) CD with $15 and you'll get mailed the new CD" was posted on the Compuserve site(see M. Carver's helpful post regarding it in this group), which doesn't sound like the right manouver to me. Front cover of the users manual and $5 for handling sound more appropriate... what do they want, profit from us a second time? I guess that does make your theory sound more likely. Long-term, Sierra is losing big time here. Racing sims are specialty software; it is a limited audience that digs them, and most of those people, within reason, are passionate about the simes and already bought the original product in November or soon after. These customers have been tossed and kicked around for 8 months, and now feel like they are getting screwed... Think any racing fans are going to have a warm place in their hearts for Sierra any time soon?

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