Are we nuts?

A friend and I were recently discussing how much fun we've had racing on Hawaii, and the large phone bills involved, and came across a rather disturbing idea. Since summer is the time for vacations, namely ROAD TRIPS, we discussed heading out from our hometown of Omaha, NE to catch a Winston Cup race. We couldn't decide on a particular race, so I mentioned why not all of them?(minus a few :( ) The stupified look I received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay for the trip! Are we truly insane? Who knows, maybe Papyrus will let us visit their offices! <G> David Range DJR or Dave_R on Hawaii

Got room for 1 more? <g> -------------- Michael Kirton

How about a Travel Agency booking to Boston we could charter a Trailways up and back and Have a Papyrus Weekend with a Nascar Driver on the trip!!! Spend 3 fun filled days at the Marriott and return home for work on Monday. Anyone in the Southeast interested.Maybe even find a sponsor for the trip..Hello Budweiser are you out there??? Cost of trip would not even come close to Phone Bill...tell the wife your saving money by going. You can tell your friends your heading for Hawaii !!! See ya on the Bus :)

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>>David Range >>DJR or Dave_R on Hawaii >Three words: I'M WITH YOU! :-) >Seriously, that's a hell of an idea. Maybe even get a host hotel, a conference >room with a bunch of tables and phone lines for a big bash. We'll be racin' >mini-tower to mini-tower as well as door-handle to door-handle. I'm not much of >a driver yet but any chance to get together for some bench racing is a great >time.

Okay, we're all officially out of control now. This does sound like a great idea though. Can you imagine a convention center hall full of NASCAR ***s racing together like this? We probably wouldn't have to worry about simulating injuries after someone takes out half the field at 'Dega, it'd be just like Michael Waltrip and Lake Speed at the Michigan race last year. Wonder if Ed Martin would be willing to come by and issue those famous words "Gentlemen, start your simulators". Just make sure there are plenty of ashtrays and beer coolers. Matt Myers --------------------------------------------- Expressing individualism is just plain wrong. Crow T. Robot

says... Three words: I'M WITH YOU! :-) Seriously, that's a hell of an idea. Maybe even get a host hotel, a conference room with a bunch of tables and phone lines for a big bash. We'll be racin' mini-tower to mini-tower as well as door-handle to door-handle. I'm not much of a driver yet but any chance to get together for some bench racing is a great time.

Well, to answer your question, you do sound a little nuts! <G> Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

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> Okay, we're all officially out of control now. This does sound like a > great idea though. Can you imagine a convention center hall full of > NASCAR ***s racing together like this? We probably wouldn't have > to worry about simulating injuries after someone takes out half the > field at 'Dega, it'd be just like Michael Waltrip and Lake Speed at > the Michigan race last year. Wonder if Ed Martin would be willing to > come by and issue those famous words "Gentlemen, start your > simulators". Just make sure there are plenty of ashtrays and beer > coolers.

LOL!! I can't stop laughing. This must surely mean Judgment day is near..when's the convention date..I'm there! Ed's probably practicing right now. KenH

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> received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, > driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, > MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I > figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel > rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time > racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay > for the trip! Are we truly insane?

LOL!!! No...that's friggin' brilliant. Now..how do I convince my wife a trip to Boston is in our future? KenH

Wow! I can see it now. NASCAR invades Boston!! We can book the Hyatt Regency and have hundreds of booths with computers their for racers to race in. No, you are not nuts..your a genious. Lee Mills Auburn University Aviation

So how do you feel about us guys that have been on the test since way back when? You selling our vitals to shrinks? (g) You realize that I have informed all the LD carriers that I am taking bids on the contract? the 1st one that offers me blanket 8 cents a minute, no signup fee and a new car gets the account! (vbg) -- ===================================================================== C H A R L O T T E M O T O R S P E E D W A Y ------------------------------------------------------------------- // // Mark (Difficult at Darlington) McCuen // Caribou/IverSport #35 Hooters Monte Carlo ___/#D\__/ - __ Papyrus Closed Beta Team (8/95) [_()_35_()] _ --- ID: markmc // HCS/ProHCS // http://www.katt.com/mm/mmcars.html -----------------------------------------------------------------

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>> received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, >> driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, >> MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I >> figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel >> rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time >> racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay >> for the trip! Are we truly insane? >LOL!!! No...that's friggin' brilliant. Now..how do I convince my wife a trip to >Boston is in our future?

Easy. Explain that you're actually SAVING money by making local calls in Boston vs. long distance. I'm hoping it'll work for me! <G> David Range

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>Okay, we're all officially out of control now. This does sound like a >great idea though. Can you imagine a convention center hall full of >NASCAR ***s racing together like this? We probably wouldn't have >to worry about simulating injuries after someone takes out half the >field at 'Dega, it'd be just like Michael Waltrip and Lake Speed at >the Michigan race last year. Wonder if Ed Martin would be willing to >come by and issue those famous words "Gentlemen, start your >simulators". Just make sure there are plenty of ashtrays and beer >coolers.

Out of control? NEVER! But this convention is even a better idea! Ok, now to come up with a convention name! <G> Any suggestions? David ( foaming at the mouth) Range

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>>A friend and I were recently discussing how much fun we've had racing >>on Hawaii, and the large phone bills involved, and came across a >>rather disturbing idea. Since summer is the time for vacations, namely >>ROAD TRIPS, we discussed heading out from our hometown of Omaha, NE to >>catch a Winston Cup race. We couldn't decide on a particular race, so >>I mentioned why not all of them?(minus a few :( ) The stupified look I >>received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, >>driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, >>MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I >>figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel >>rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time >>racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay >>for the trip! Are we truly insane? >>Who knows, maybe Papyrus will let us visit their offices! <G> >>David Range >>DJR or Dave_R on Hawaii > Well, to answer your question, you do sound a little nuts! <G>

Thanks a lot! <G> It took you guys this long to figure it out? Gotta admit the convention idea sounds like a winner though. Would Papyrus be willing to throw in a copy of Nascar 2 to the winner (me, of course) when available? It'd be a great way to promote Hawaii and the NRL. <G> David Range

From what I've seen from posts about multi-player racing, at least it'll give you guys a chance to beat each other up when theres another multi-car pile up on the pace lap. :-) Pete ----

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>>A friend and I were recently discussing how much fun we've had racing >>on Hawaii, and the large phone bills involved, and came across a >>rather disturbing idea. Since summer is the time for vacations, namely >>ROAD TRIPS, we discussed heading out from our hometown of Omaha, NE to >>catch a Winston Cup race. We couldn't decide on a particular race, so >>I mentioned why not all of them?(minus a few :( ) The stupified look I >>received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, >>driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, >>MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I >>figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel >>rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time >>racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay >>for the trip! Are we truly insane? >>Who knows, maybe Papyrus will let us visit their offices! <G> >>David Range >>DJR or Dave_R on Hawaii >Got room for 1 more? <g> >-------------- >Michael Kirton

You blokes are crazy, get a life....... BTW does anyone know what the cost for a round trip to Boston from Australia is? While I'm over there I could get a cheep PC, maybe that will swing the wife! Anthony

[snip] Ed, are you reading this??? This would be a FANTASTIC roll-out promo for NR2 and the NRL. A convention center type layout with about 100 driving stations. Maybe get Gordon, Craven, Bobby Labonte and some other WC guys to come out. Have Benny Parsons call a race while it's shown on a projection TV, exclusive coverage by RPM2night. You can even have (or better have) the NRL equivalent to Miss Winston there for trophy presentations. Anyway, for the marketing help all I ask is a free copy of NR2 :) Matt Myers --------------------------------------------- Expressing individualism is just plain wrong. Crow T. Robot

Hey guys, Sounds alot better than a bunch of people standing around gabbin about how mean Capt. Kirk was. Ligwoc

Yes you are....and it has been the highlight of my day! Mike (what a dreadful life I must lead)

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> [snip] > >Gotta admit the convention idea sounds like a winner though. Would > >Papyrus be willing to throw in a copy of Nascar 2 to the winner (me, > >of course) when available? It'd be a great way to promote Hawaii and > >the NRL. <G> > >David Range > Ed, are you reading this??? This would be a FANTASTIC roll-out promo > for NR2 and the NRL. A convention center type layout with about 100<snip> > Matt Myers > --------------------------------------------- > Expressing individualism is just plain wrong. > Crow T. Robot

A better way to do this would be to set up centers in Detroit, Chicago, Dallas, LA, SF, NY....etc.. tied into a server in each site.(heat races and such) Local winners would advance... Then the winners could pair off on the real NRL ( hawaii) (through the fast connection low latency network hawaii is looking into) to race the long feature with CocaCola supplying a purse of $50K... This could work. No charge Ed... just make sure I'm included!! Tim Daley 59 Chevy Biscayne

There's nothing wrong with the idea, but if everyone's going to Boston to race, then why do we need a modem multiplayer racing series ? We'll just direct connect everyone's computers since everyone will be there. :) And don't forget to hire some security at the hotel when someone obliterates half the drivers there ( imagine Donnie Allison-Cale Yarborough times 100 ! ) It'll be like WWF !! Not nuts, just ***ed... -

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> >A friend and I were recently discussing how much fun we've had racing > >on Hawaii, and the large phone bills involved, and came across a > >rather disturbing idea. Since summer is the time for vacations, namely > >ROAD TRIPS, we discussed heading out from our hometown of Omaha, NE to > >catch a Winston Cup race. We couldn't decide on a particular race, so > >I mentioned why not all of them?(minus a few :( ) The stupified look I > >received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, > >driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, > >MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I > >figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel > >rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time > >racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay > >for the trip! Are we truly insane? > >Who knows, maybe Papyrus will let us visit their offices! <G> > >David Range > >DJR or Dave_R on Hawaii > Well, to answer your question, you do sound a little nuts! <G> > Ed Martin > Producer, Series Director > NASCAR Racing League > Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Maybe not Ed... ICI is an interactive, internet *** company that runs a _very_ fun online WWII flying simulation called "Warbirds", like Hawaii for WWII Aces. (BTW, I don't work for them, I just thought you should see this.): ================================================================================ Subject: ICI NEWS Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 16:22:38 -0500 Organization: Interactive Creations Inc. ICI NEWSFLASH July 10, 1996 FIRST WARBIRDS CONVENTION PLANNED FOR SEPTEMBER Date: Sep 5-8, 1996 Where: Holiday Inn Select, D/FW Airport North 4441 Highway 114 & Esters Blvd. Irving, TX 75063 (214) 929-8181 Price: Registration Fee $120.00 per person. This fee includes the meeting room, phone lines, food trays, beer, and a Saturday night banquet as well as some other goodies. Rooms: $70.00 per night. This is a flat rate that includes single, double, triple or even quadruple occupancy. Reserve your rooms prior to August 15 to reserve this special rate. Call Holiday Inn at (214) 929-8181 and reserve your room with a credit card. Airfare: American Airlines is sponsoring the air travel for this convention. You can get a discounted airfare from AA if you give them our group's number. The number is S0996AE. YOU MUST USE THIS NUMBER TO GET THE DISCOUNTED PRICE. You can call American at 1-800-433-1790. Transportation from the airport is provided by the hotel. Guests: We're working on getting some special guests to attend this convention. Keep an eye out for further announcements. Vendors: Vendors showing new stuff. Promo prices and prizes. Tours: There will be a tour bus going to the Cavanaugh Flight Museum in Addison, TX. This Museum has some beautiful warbirds in flying condition. Among them are a B-25J, P51D, P-40N, Spitfire Mk VIII, F4U-4, TBF, He-111, and more. Systems: You can ship your system to the hotel ahead of time if you don't wish to take it on the airline with you. It is not mandatory for you to bring your system as there will be systems available at the con (however, the number of available systems will be limited). We plan on having phone lines for 20-30 computers. There's a lot of other stuff to do in the D/FW area too if you're interested in some other activities. There's a lot of shopping, nightlife, historical areas, golf, water sports, Six Flags, a Cowboys home game on the 8th, etc. but who cares?<g> How to register: Send a check for $120.00 to: WB Convention c/o Interactive Creations Inc. 2701 W. Northwest Highway Suite 220 Grapevine, TX 76051 topic in the ICI BBS. --=snip - (more news letter stuff)=-- ==================================================================================== ===================================================================================== Could be new wave in the *** industry ;D I think this would be great time if I had any vacation left this summer... :( Cheers! Ed Pickart -- ============================================================ "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep." --Scott Adams

> Okay, we're all officially out of control now. This does sound like a > great idea though. Can you imagine a convention center hall full of -- snips -- Matt.. Officially? Do we need to vote on this??? The more I laugh about this thread the more I think it's the best idea generated by RAS. Mike

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>>> received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, >>> driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, >>> MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I >>> figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel >>> rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time >>> racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay >>> for the trip! Are we truly insane? >>LOL!!! No...that's friggin' brilliant. Now..how do I convince my wife a trip to >>Boston is in our future? >Easy. Explain that you're actually SAVING money by making local calls >in Boston vs. long distance. I'm hoping it'll work for me! <G> >David Range >>KenH

You could save more money by getting off Hawaii cold turkey. Talk about the shakes! Kyle Langston

(SNIP) Let's start the ball rolling. How many people would be interested in attending a Hawaii racers convention in Boston? If possible please include the best available time you could attend, and any ideas that you may have that would add to the enjoyment of the convention. Maybe an outing to see the Red Sox, etc. I'm not familiar with Boston, so any ideas on the best place to stay, eat, etc. If possible please e-mail me with the info. Hey Ed, is there a way to include a mention of this in the MOTD page on Hawaii? I'm sure not all of the racers read r.a.s., and it'd make it easier to get the word out instead of in the chat rooms. I realize this is just a shot in the dark, but think of the posibilities! David Range

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>Could be new wave in the *** industry ;D >I think this would be great time if I had any vacation left this summer... :( >Cheers! >Ed Pickart >-- >============================================================ >"Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is > knowing which ones to keep." --Scott Adams

>Let's start the ball rolling. How many people would be interested in >attending a Hawaii racers convention in Boston? Ooohhh, kewl, or even better: ** The Hawaii Roll-Out Tour '97 ** Coming soon to a convention center near you. Just think Ed (and the PR guys at Papy), you'd clean up on the t-shirt concession alone. I for one would have to buy the "NR2 - Mega Virtual Velocity" shirt. I bet NASCAR would even jump in to fund a big chunk of something along these lines, and their PR budget has to be gargantuan! Maybe they'll give you one of those great big transporter rigs to bum around the US in. Just some more food for thought. Matt Myers --------------------------------------------- Expressing individualism is just plain wrong. Crow T. Robot

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> > Okay, we're all officially out of control now. This does sound like a > > great idea though. Can you imagine a convention center hall full of > -- snips -- > Matt.. > Officially? > Do we need to vote on this??? > The more I laugh about this thread the more I think it's the best idea > generated by RAS. > Mike

We could go to LOUDEN for a tour, its close. We could also get Digital to proivide some pc's as a promotional thing... ALPHA's. Get some big sposors like COKE and GM etc to provide some purse money for the participants... we might be able to make money at this...hmmm Tim

I think the weakest link in Papyrus is there marketing, They seem to like us to do it for them. Bruce Chandley

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>>Let's start the ball rolling. How many people would be interested in >>attending a Hawaii racers convention in Boston? >Ooohhh, kewl, or even better: > ** The Hawaii Roll-Out Tour '97 ** > Coming soon to a convention center near you. >Just think Ed (and the PR guys at Papy), you'd clean up on the t-shirt >concession alone. I for one would have to buy the "NR2 - Mega Virtual >Velocity" shirt. I bet NASCAR would even jump in to fund a big chunk >of something along these lines, and their PR budget has to be >gargantuan! Maybe they'll give you one of those great big transporter >rigs to bum around the US in. Just some more food for thought. >Matt Myers >--------------------------------------------- >Expressing individualism is just plain wrong. > Crow T. Robot

>I think this would be great time if I had any vacation left this summer... >:( >Cheers! >Ed Pickart Lets make it in the slow winter off season. We could go around Thanksgiving. Beats watching football at the inlaws. Gene

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> (SNIP) > >Maybe not Ed... > >ICI is an interactive, internet *** company that runs a _very_ fun > >online WWII flying simulation called "Warbirds", like Hawaii for WWII Aces. > >(BTW, I don't work for them, I just thought you should see this.): > >FIRST WARBIRDS CONVENTION PLANNED FOR SEPTEMBER > Let's start the ball rolling. How many people would be interested in > attending a Hawaii racers convention in Boston? If possible please > include the best available time you could attend, and any ideas that > you may have that would add to the enjoyment of the convention. Maybe > an outing to see the Red Sox, etc. I'm not familiar with Boston, so > any ideas on the best place to stay, eat, etc. If possible please > e-mail me with the info.

I'll go (of course I live 5 miles out of Boston).

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> > (SNIP) > > >Maybe not Ed... > > >ICI is an interactive, internet *** company that runs a _very_ fun > > >online WWII flying simulation called "Warbirds", like Hawaii for WWII Aces. > > >(BTW, I don't work for them, I just thought you should see this.): > > >FIRST WARBIRDS CONVENTION PLANNED FOR SEPTEMBER > > Let's start the ball rolling. How many people would be interested in > > attending a Hawaii racers convention in Boston? If possible please > > include the best available time you could attend, and any ideas that > > you may have that would add to the enjoyment of the convention. Maybe > > an outing to see the Red Sox, etc. I'm not familiar with Boston, so > > any ideas on the best place to stay, eat, etc. If possible please > > e-mail me with the info. > I'll go (of course I live 5 miles out of Boston).

This is a good Idea, HOWEVER, This is only a good Idea for those that live near Boston. I would gladly attend, and boston is only maby ten hours drive for me, but then 10 hours=alot of miles wich = alot of gas/ the stay there meens hotl bills wich = some money wich would equal an empty wallet for the trip home. All for what? You mention nothing on any idea for what would be availible there. You might want to mention some kind of activity or a cause for the convention. Like I said "It is a good Idea, but, what would we all do there.

>Lets make it in the slow winter off season. We could go around >Thanksgiving. Beats watching football at the inlaws. >Gene Beats doing ANYTHING at the in-laws<g> -------------- Michael Kirton

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>> > (SNIP) >> > >Maybe not Ed... >> > >ICI is an interactive, internet *** company that runs a _very_ fun >> > >online WWII flying simulation called "Warbirds", like Hawaii for WWII Aces. >> > >(BTW, I don't work for them, I just thought you should see this.): >> > >FIRST WARBIRDS CONVENTION PLANNED FOR SEPTEMBER >> > Let's start the ball rolling. How many people would be interested in >> > attending a Hawaii racers convention in Boston? If possible please >> > include the best available time you could attend, and any ideas that >> > you may have that would add to the enjoyment of the convention. Maybe >> > an outing to see the Red Sox, etc. I'm not familiar with Boston, so >> > any ideas on the best place to stay, eat, etc. If possible please >> > e-mail me with the info. >> I'll go (of course I live 5 miles out of Boston). >This is a good Idea, HOWEVER, This is only a good Idea for those that live near Boston. > I would gladly attend, and boston is only maby ten hours drive for me, but then 10 >hours=alot of miles wich = alot of gas/ the stay there meens hotl bills wich = some >money wich would equal an empty wallet for the trip home. All for what? You mention >nothing on any idea for what would be availible there. > You might want to mention some kind of activity or a cause for the convention. > Like I said "It is a good Idea, but, what would we all do there.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but "cause for the convention?" HAWAII! What else do you need? Since I live in Nebraska (which is longer than ten hours), I'm not familiar with Boston. But it seems there should be plenty to do. Maybe they have a Malibu Grand Prix center that we could show off our real driving talents. <G> Or see a baseball game. Who knows, maybe Papyrus will show up and run a few races. Remember, this is just to see if there is enough interest in organizing some type of gathering. A place where we can discuss strategies in person with good food, plenty of beer, and free Hawaii racin'. Can anyone in Boston gives us more info on what to do, or see there? David Range

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>Please don't take this the wrong way, but "cause for the convention?" >HAWAII! What else do you need? Since I live in Nebraska (which is >longer than ten hours), I'm not familiar with Boston. But it seems >there should be plenty to do. Maybe they have a Malibu Grand Prix >center that we could show off our real driving talents. <G> Or see a >baseball game. Who knows, maybe Papyrus will show up and run a few >races. Remember, this is just to see if there is enough interest in >organizing some type of gathering. A place where we can discuss >strategies in person with good food, plenty of beer, and free Hawaii >racin'. Can anyone in Boston gives us more info on what to do, or see >there? >David Range

I'm sure the influx of visitors to Boston using the Hawaii service (for extended periods of time thanks to the local number) would do wonders for the load on the race servers. Kyle Langston

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> > (SNIP) > > >Maybe not Ed... > > >ICI is an interactive, internet *** company that runs a _very_ fun > > >online WWII flying simulation called "Warbirds", like Hawaii for WWII Aces. > > >(BTW, I don't work for them, I just thought you should see this.): > > >FIRST WARBIRDS CONVENTION PLANNED FOR SEPTEMBER > > Let's start the ball rolling. How many people would be interested in > > attending a Hawaii racers convention in Boston? If possible please > > include the best available time you could attend, and any ideas that > > you may have that would add to the enjoyment of the convention. Maybe > > an outing to see the Red Sox, etc. I'm not familiar with Boston, so > > any ideas on the best place to stay, eat, etc. If possible please > > e-mail me with the info. > I'll go (of course I live 5 miles out of Boston).

< >Make it in C***te arund the time of the Select in May,or maybe somewhere in the Southeast MO area <g>.Just my thoughts on it,from Cape Girardeau,MO capital of Southeast MO.... ---BOYD---

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> >Please don't take this the wrong way, but "cause for the convention?" > >HAWAII! What else do you need? Since I live in Nebraska (which is > >longer than ten hours), I'm not familiar with Boston. But it seems > >there should be plenty to do. Maybe they have a Malibu Grand Prix > >center that we could show off our real driving talents. <G> Or see a > >baseball game. Who knows, maybe Papyrus will show up and run a few > >races. Remember, this is just to see if there is enough interest in > >organizing some type of gathering. A place where we can discuss > >strategies in person with good food, plenty of beer, and free Hawaii > >racin'. Can anyone in Boston gives us more info on what to do, or see > >there? > >David Range > I'm sure the influx of visitors to Boston using the Hawaii service > (for extended periods of time thanks to the local number) would do > wonders for the load on the race servers. > Kyle Langston

<once again,we have a big place called the Show Me Center for the convention and several motels,restaurants and a go-cart track with faster carts than most places (30 mph on a good track,its a road course but ive been pushing a banked oval idea across the owner!)in Cape Girardeau,MO,let me know what you think,its in the middle of USA,good location. ---BOYD---

> I'm sure the influx of visitors to Boston using the Hawaii service >(for extended periods of time thanks to the local number) would do >wonders for the load on the race servers. >Kyle Langston <Sigh> It must be r.a.s. Gotta be. Does the whinning from other threads procreate to all other threads? To answer your question. NO. As you know, the majority of the racing being done on Hawaii is during the evening/late evening or weekends because of cheaper long distance rates. A convention is usually run during the DAYTIME. Besides Hawaii is in BETA test to see if the servers can handle the load, etc. Again, I asked for other ideas from local Bostonians for excursions, etc. But it appears there's not enough interest, simply whines, so I'll let the idea pass, and hope Papyrus decides to sponsor a convention at the unveiling of the NRL. Thanks to all who posted suggestions, and I hope to see you on Hawaii! David Range

><once again,we have a big place called the Show Me Center for the >convention and several motels,restaurants and a go-cart track with >faster carts than most places (30 mph on a good track,its a road course >but ive been pushing a banked oval idea across the owner!)in Cape >Girardeau,MO,let me know what you think,its in the middle of USA,good >location. Sounds like fun, but the point of having a gathering in Boston was to eliminate long distance charges incurred when dialing Hawaii. (Boston) David Range

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> >A friend and I were recently discussing how much fun we've had racing > >on Hawaii, and the large phone bills involved, and came across a > >rather disturbing idea. Since summer is the time for vacations, namely > >ROAD TRIPS, we discussed heading out from our hometown of Omaha, NE to > >catch a Winston Cup race. We couldn't decide on a particular race, so > >I mentioned why not all of them?(minus a few :( ) The stupified look I > >received made me laugh. Why not pack up the computer equipment, > >driving wheels, etc. and drive to Boston? Yes, that's right, Boston, > >MA. Land of local telephone calls to multiplayer Nascar Racing! I > >figure it'd take 2-3 days driving time each way, rent two hotel > >rooms(gotta have two phone lines), and spend LARGE amounts of time > >racing. The money we'd save in local phone calls versus LD could pay > >for the trip! Are we truly insane? > >Who knows, maybe Papyrus will let us visit their offices! <G> > >David Range > >DJR or Dave_R on Hawaii > Well, to answer your question, you do sound a little nuts! <G> > Ed Martin Producer, Series Director NASCAR Racing League Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.

Why? Just because we want to spend several hundred dollars traveling clear across the country to spend the weekend shut up in a motel convention room breathing second hand smoke, listening to a bunch of drunks yelling *** at each other and arguing over which track to drive next, in order to save $5.40 an hour in long distance charges? whoChuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA Hawaii: ChuckStuart

(snipped) code + number) for .10/minute ANYTIME (24/7) for $5.00/month with the "DimeLine". This is not a commercial or anything, I don't know anyone in either of these companies, I'm just sharing what I know. Chuck Stuart, how do you get .09/minute? Patrick. -- ======================================================= = Famous last words: "...it's just a line of code..." = ======================================================= = Patrick O'Neal (PatOZone on hawaii) = = Shamrock Racing Enterprises, Brea, CA = = Owner/operator of the #57 ARCO/ampm Chevy = =======================================================

> (snipped). But the best flat rate I could find for LD is $8.40 an hour. > > David Range > > You can always get .10/minute with Sprint after 5pm with no monthly fee SNIP > how do you get .09/minute? > Patrick. >>>SNIP>>>Lets see... if I have 10c/minute * 60 = $6.00/hour If I get 9c/minute * 60 = $5.40/hour 100 hours per month of HAWAII = $600.00 or $540.00! "Hey Honey I can save us $60.00 per month! Wow thats $720.00 per year!":-o Her reply "Wow that's great?.... how can you do that?... ...Hey how much is that costing anyway???":-o oops There is a company called EXCEL which sells long distance via word of mouth advertising. 9cents/ min let me know if you want info. Sorry for the sales pitch.. -- Tim Daley Vice President Expertec Corporation (313) 451-2272 Providers of Software Solutions and Expertice ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' I'd rather be lucky than FAST! "The best things in life...aren't THINGS!" J. Tuman ___________________________________________________________________

1-10502- gets you .09 per minute anytime. Chuck Stuart - Mesquite TX USA

Its simple, sign up for a sprint Business account and spend a minimum of 200 dollars per month on a month- to- month contract and pay 14.7 cents per min all day, every day except on fridays which are scott free. I race 8-10 hours or more every friday. Why take a vacation and go to MA? Just trade work on Fridays for work on Sundays. Mean while, when I'm not racing on fridays, I broadcast fax from my list of sales prospects-FREE ! Hope this helps, CT Hawaii: cole "If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk"

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>(snipped) >> Each to their own. The point was to meet in person other racers on >> Hawaii. But the best flat rate I could find for LD is $8.40 an hour. >> David Range >> You can always get .10/minute with Sprint after 5pm with no monthly fee -OR- use access code 10811 (+ 1 + area >code + number) for .10/minute ANYTIME (24/7) for $5.00/month with the "DimeLine". This is not a commercial or >anything, I don't know anyone in either of these companies, I'm just sharing what I know. Chuck Stuart, how do >you get .09/minute?

If I may correct you on that line about Sprint, (I recently switched over) Sprint informed me that after a year, I will get a 10% rebate on my LD bills, which resolves itself to $.09/minute. (Switch to sprint! They gave me 100 free minutes!) (And No I don't work for spring!) They're not bugs! They're random features!