On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:12:13 +0300, Riku M Reimaa
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>Then to
>make the patching process a nightmare and to find out that not all
>of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!!
>Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus.
>I want a face I can smash, NOW! <snip>
>Riku Reimaa
Wow...you're pissed. I didn't have any of those problems. Must've
been the divine intervention Michael Carver's been experiencing at
Cleveland that got me through the upgrade the first time.
Kyle
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>>I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the >>PAINTKIT.EXE from the CD (a friend reported that the patch stops with a >-snip- >>of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!! >>Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus. >>I want a face I can smash, NOW! >>One GP II for me please... >>PS: Why is it NASCAR works so much better? NASCAR II better be >>goddamn brilliant and BUG-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Have you ever heard of back-ups? It's a lesson I learned anytime I >patch/upgrade/fiddle or mess with an app. Hope you learned it too.I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the
PAINTKIT.EXE from the CD (a friend reported that the patch stops with a
fail-message if it's not an unpatched paintkit), and started the patch.
It stopped after patching the PAINTKIT.EXE. Shit. I deltree a bunch of
directories, install the whole goddamn sh#t again, run the patch and
then RESTALL the saved files. Alright, it's patched now. But why
didn't it save the control configurations, or the modem setups, or
your game options?!?!?! TOTAL F###ING BULLSH#T!!!!!!!! Thank you
Sierra/Papyrus for screwing up in a ROYAL F####ING WAY!!! AGAIN!!!!
What kind of a PATCH requires the re-installation of the whole goddamn
game? Totally ridiculous crap... The a##holes responsible for
prolonging the release of this patch, AND the guys who actually
decided how it would take care of the patching, should all have their
nuts crushed in a vice!!!!!!!!!! I'm totally pissed off at this ***
they call software... It is unforgiveable to sit on a patch for this
long especially with the EXTENSIVE flaws inherent in ICR2. Then to
make the patching process a nightmare and to find out that not all
of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!!
Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus.
I want a face I can smash, NOW!
One GP II for me please...
PS: Why is it NASCAR works so much better? NASCAR II better be
goddamn brilliant and BUG-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Riku Reimaa _/\_
[link lost in import: /~reimaa/] NIGHTSTALKERS 37th TFW
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> I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the > PAINTKIT.EXE from the CD (a friend reported that the patch stops with a > fail-message if it's not an unpatched paintkit), and started the patch. > It stopped after patching the PAINTKIT.EXE. Shit. I deltree a bunch of > directories, install the whole goddamn sh#t again, run the patch and > then RESTALL the saved files. Alright, it's patched now. But why > didn't it save the control configurations, or the modem setups, or > your game options?!?!?! TOTAL F###ING BULLSH#T!!!!!!!! Thank you > Sierra/Papyrus for screwing up in a ROYAL F####ING WAY!!! AGAIN!!!! > What kind of a PATCH requires the re-installation of the whole damn > game? Totally ridiculous crap... The a##holes responsible for > prolonging the release of this patch, AND the guys who actually > decided how it would take care of the patching, should all have their > nuts crushed in a vice!!!!!!!!!! I'm totally pissed off at this *** > they call software... It is unforgiveable to sit on a patch for this > long especially with the EXTENSIVE flaws inherent in ICR2. Then to > make the patching process a nightmare and to find out that not all > of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!! > Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus. > I want a face I can smash, NOW! > One GP II for me please... > PS: Why is it NASCAR works so much better? NASCAR II better be > goddamn brilliant and BUG-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the
>PAINTKIT.EXE from the CD (a friend reported that the patch stops with a -snip-
Have you ever heard of back-ups? It's a lesson I learned anytime I
patch/upgrade/fiddle or mess with an app. Hope you learned it too.
I feel your pain.
Mike
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>of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!! >Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus. >I want a face I can smash, NOW! >One GP II for me please... >PS: Why is it NASCAR works so much better? NASCAR II better be >goddamn brilliant and BUG-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >_________________________________________________________________________ >Riku Reimaa _/\_ >[link lost in import: /~reimaa/] NIGHTSTALKERS 37th TFW >_________________________________________________________________________Cool down... I patched the game by installing a clean copy in a
different directory, patched this, and copied only the changed files
to my old icr2-directory. No problems at all, and took only a few
minutes (P90, WD Caviar disk, 6Mb smartdrive). I admit the patch
installation procedure could have been better, but maybe the _real_
patch from Sierra will be (I have not heard anyone saying the patch
that originated from Hawaii site is official :)
Available in Thursday July 18, here in Finland.
IMO Nascar plays worse than ICR2 (w/patch the difference is even
bigger).
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>Cool down... I patched the game by installing a clean copy in a >different directory, patched this, and copied only the changed files >to my old icr2-directory. No problems at all, and took only a few >minutes (P90, WD Caviar disk, 6Mb smartdrive). I admit the patch >installation procedure could have been better, but maybe the _real_ >patch from Sierra will be (I have not heard anyone saying the patch >that originated from Hawaii site is official :)>I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the
>PAINTKIT.EXE from the CD (a friend reported that the patch stops with a
>fail-message if it's not an unpatched paintkit), and started the patch.
>It stopped after patching the PAINTKIT.EXE. Shit. I deltree a bunch of
Too much coffee !
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>directories, install the whole goddamn sh#t again, run the patch and >then RESTALL the saved files. Alright, it's patched now. But why >didn't it save the control configurations, or the modem setups, or >your game options?!?!?! TOTAL F###ING BULLSH#T!!!!!!!! Thank you >Sierra/Papyrus for screwing up in a ROYAL F####ING WAY!!! AGAIN!!!! >What kind of a PATCH requires the re-installation of the whole goddamn >game? Totally ridiculous crap... The a##holes responsible for >prolonging the release of this patch, AND the guys who actually >decided how it would take care of the patching, should all have their >nuts crushed in a vice!!!!!!!!!! I'm totally pissed off at this *** >they call software... It is unforgiveable to sit on a patch for this >long especially with the EXTENSIVE flaws inherent in ICR2. Then to >make the patching process a nightmare and to find out that not all >of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!! >Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus. >I want a face I can smash, NOW! >One GP II for me please... >PS: Why is it NASCAR works so much better? NASCAR II better be >goddamn brilliant and BUG-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I ordered the icr2 and t2 pachage 4 weeks ago. I had 2 day air on it
thinking i was going to be playing it that week so i waited a week went
by so i called up and gave the order number nothing. they said its not
on there system yet. ok i figured thats cool so i waited another week
called up not on system yet. by this time i was getting a little pissed.
I waited another week I called up and they said nope its not on there
yet. I said well i have the recite right here whats taking so long.
They said we dont know. so I said ok i will order here over the phone so
you can ship it and just cancel the other order. The lady said we cant
cancel the order until it shows up on the system.. i said ok ill call
back until its on the system so i can cancel it. then if i ordered it
now i will have it by the end of the week right? she said yes so i
ordered it and was through everything and then the lady said well were
out of stock your going to have to wait 30 days before we can ship it to
you. I said well what the hell am i ordering it for with 2 day air. if
i have to wait 4 weeks an extra week wont kill me. she didnot say
anything. so i did not order it and am still waiting for the other order
to pop up so i can cancel it. if they are going to do business like this
***them ill go some place else and get them. instead of t2 im going
to order that thomas wheel. I was very disaapointed with sierra. When I
ordered anything from Papyrus they did it all ok atleast they did not
beat around the bush if something was not in stock they told you right
there. oh well im off my soapbox for the day..
>> I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the
snip snip snip snip snip
blah blah blah
etc etc etc
and now add:
This one truly deserves the bonehead reply form but I'm tired of
filling it out 8 times a day so I'll settle for saying.
Gee, isn't it nice the grammer, punctuation, and spelling they teach
nowadays :)
Ron R II
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On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 00:12:13 +0300, Riku M Reimaa
Uhhh...play another game then, huh? Consumers vote with their
dollars.
Sue? What could you possibly sue for?
I anxiously await the release of your perfectly coded driving
simulation.
Seriously, man, you need to settle down. Life is too short!
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>I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the >PAINTKIT.EXE from the CD (a friend reported that the patch stops with a >fail-message if it's not an unpatched paintkit), and started the patch. >It stopped after patching the PAINTKIT.EXE. Shit. I deltree a bunch of >directories, install the whole goddamn sh#t again, run the patch and >then RESTALL the saved files. Alright, it's patched now. But why >didn't it save the control configurations, or the modem setups, or >your game options?!?!?! TOTAL F###ING BULLSH#T!!!!!!!! Thank you >Sierra/Papyrus for screwing up in a ROYAL F####ING WAY!!! AGAIN!!!! >What kind of a PATCH requires the re-installation of the whole goddamn >game? Totally ridiculous crap... The a##holes responsible for >prolonging the release of this patch, AND the guys who actually >decided how it would take care of the patching, should all have their >nuts crushed in a vice!!!!!!!!!! I'm totally pissed off at this *** >they call software... It is unforgiveable to sit on a patch for this >long especially with the EXTENSIVE flaws inherent in ICR2. Then to >make the patching process a nightmare and to find out that not all >of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!! >Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus. >I want a face I can smash, NOW! >One GP II for me please... >PS: Why is it NASCAR works so much better? NASCAR II better be >goddamn brilliant and BUG-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quoted text (33 lines)
> I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the > PAINTKIT.EXE from the CD (a friend reported that the patch stops with a > fail-message if it's not an unpatched paintkit), and started the patch. > It stopped after patching the PAINTKIT.EXE. Shit. I deltree a bunch of > directories, install the whole goddamn sh#t again, run the patch and > then RESTALL the saved files. Alright, it's patched now. But why > didn't it save the control configurations, or the modem setups, or > your game options?!?!?! TOTAL F###ING BULLSH#T!!!!!!!! Thank you > Sierra/Papyrus for screwing up in a ROYAL F####ING WAY!!! AGAIN!!!! > What kind of a PATCH requires the re-installation of the whole goddamn > game? Totally ridiculous crap... The a##holes responsible for > prolonging the release of this patch, AND the guys who actually > decided how it would take care of the patching, should all have their > nuts crushed in a vice!!!!!!!!!! I'm totally pissed off at this *** > they call software... It is unforgiveable to sit on a patch for this > long especially with the EXTENSIVE flaws inherent in ICR2. Then to > make the patching process a nightmare and to find out that not all > of the bugs are fixed, well that just plain STINKS TO CLOUD NINE!!!! > Somebody should sue the living ***out of both Sierra and Papyrus. > I want a face I can smash, NOW! > One GP II for me please... > PS: Why is it NASCAR works so much better? NASCAR II better be > goddamn brilliant and BUG-FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > _________________________________________________________________________ > Riku Reimaa _/\_ > [link lost in import: /~reimaa/] NIGHTSTALKERS 37th TFW > _________________________________________________________________________Quoted text (23 lines)
>Subject: Re: Sierra/Papyrus can KISS MY A#&!!!!! >Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:34:46 GMT >>> I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the >snip snip snip snip snip >blah blah blah >etc etc etc >and now add: >>i agree fully with your comments , i got hold of an original win 95 >>version of indy car 2 and it had updated dos version on cd as well and >>in the dos version your have to disable the mouse driver cause you cant >>configer your controls for joysticks (wheels) it always configers to >>mouse and i can tell you after extensive testing that the win 95 version >>is slower in svga than the dos version and thats with win95s so called >>great direct-x running with it,so dos still rulz when it comes to racing >>games >This one truly deserves the bonehead reply form but I'm tired of >filling it out 8 times a day so I'll settle for saying. >Gee, isn't it nice the grammer, punctuation, and spelling they teach >nowadays :) >Ron R IIQuoted text (8 lines)
>i agree fully with your comments , i got hold of an original win 95 >version of indy car 2 and it had updated dos version on cd as well and >in the dos version your have to disable the mouse driver cause you cant >configer your controls for joysticks (wheels) it always configers to >mouse and i can tell you after extensive testing that the win 95 version >is slower in svga than the dos version and thats with win95s so called >great direct-x running with it,so dos still rulz when it comes to racing >gamesRecieved this little tid-bit in the mail today.
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To which I reply:
First of all, one doth not need be an aol'er to acteth like one.
Secondly, a: So what? It's only a game. b: With his attitude
I wouldn't want him on the same track as me anyway.
And third, Which just goes to prove that boneheads come in all shapes,
sizes, colors, genders, and ages.
Additionally, Discussing racing sims?????? Looks to me more like they
were not doing much but swearing, ranting, raving, and doing
their very best to draw flames and stir up BS between people
like you and me.
And BTW, if what I was doing is a waste of bandwith then what do you
call the screeching that was going on in r.a.s. between them,
as well as your note to me. If there was simple discussion of
topic
going on I wouldn't have said a thing. But the reply I posted
to
their yelling match was perfectly deserved.
If this is considered a waste of bandwith I apologize, but IMHO
comments
like these have to be responded to.
Sincerly
Ron R. Riekens II
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>> This one truly deserves the bonehead reply form but I'm tired of >> filling it out 8 times a day so I'll settle for saying. >> Gee, isn't it nice the grammer, punctuation, and spelling they teach >> nowadays :) >> Ron R II >First of all, your calling Riku a "stereotypical AOLer" in your "form" >makes me think that you don't know what you are talking about - he is >not a subscriber to AOL... >Secondly, I doubt seriously that you could keep up with him in Nascar, >on Hawaii, or in ICR2 for that matter. >And third - if you are not familiar enough with r.a.s. to know that Riku >has been here for a LONG time, and since I've only seen posts from you >showing up in this newsgroup only recently, I think that YOU are the >"newbie". >Additionally, Riku and Brenden were at least discussing racing sims, >while you were only wasting bandwidth by criticizing them personally. >-- >Patrick L. Dotson Delco Electronics IWCC #98-Mountain Dew >Kokomo, Indiana Oldsmobile Audio Systems Can-Am Motorsports >R328 1-1293 Mechanical Design Engineer Chevrolet-Monte CarloQuoted text (18 lines)
>>> I got the patch for ICR2 today. After copying the >snip snip snip snip snip >blah blah blah >etc etc etc >and now add: >>i agree fully with your comments , i got hold of an original win 95 >>version of indy car 2 and it had updated dos version on cd as well and >>in the dos version your have to disable the mouse driver cause you cant >>configer your controls for joysticks (wheels) it always configers to >>mouse and i can tell you after extensive testing that the win 95 version >>is slower in svga than the dos version and thats with win95s so called >>great direct-x running with it,so dos still rulz when it comes to racing >>games >This one truly deserves the bonehead reply form but I'm tired of >filling it out 8 times a day so I'll settle for saying. >Gee, isn't it nice the grammer, punctuation, and spelling they teach >nowadays :) >Ron R II<whole lot of absolute ***deleted>
Why is that some people are never satisfied? To you who complained that
the patch didn't save your controller config: Just how long does it take
to reconfigure? Is your life really so busy that you can't spare two
minutes to reconfigure? And if that's the case, why are you bothering to
play games at all? After all, I'm sure you have something better to
do...
And to you who complained about removing his mouse driver: Funny how
no-one else has reported this problem, isn't it? Funny how I've
installed the patch on 2 machines now without a hitch and I still keep
the mouse driver loaded....
You know what I think?? I think people should be required to get a
license to own a computer....But then again, look at all the idiots on
the real roads...
Ian (annoyed at the pettiness of some people)
> Recieved this little tid-bit in the mail today.
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I know I'm going to get flamed for waste of bandwidth but ...
You said it!!
You're the living prove of that!
At least Pat respoded to you via mail you brought it to r.a.s again.
I suggest we ignore this Ron the Second and end this thread ...
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> >First of all, your calling Riku a "stereotypical AOLer" in your "form" > >makes me think that you don't know what you are talking about - he is > >not a subscriber to AOL... > >Secondly, I doubt seriously that you could keep up with him in Nascar, > >on Hawaii, or in ICR2 for that matter. > >And third - if you are not familiar enough with r.a.s. to know that Riku > >has been here for a LONG time, and since I've only seen posts from you > >showing up in this newsgroup only recently, I think that YOU are the > >"newbie". > >Additionally, Riku and Brenden were at least discussing racing sims, > >while you were only wasting bandwidth by criticizing them personally. > >-- > >Patrick L. Dotson Delco Electronics IWCC #98-Mountain Dew > >Kokomo, Indiana Oldsmobile Audio Systems Can-Am Motorsports > >R328 1-1293 Mechanical Design Engineer Chevrolet-Monte Carlo: <whole lot of absolute ***deleted>
: And to you who complained about removing his mouse driver: Funny how
: no-one else has reported this problem, isn't it? Funny how I've
: installed the patch on 2 machines now without a hitch and I still keep
: the mouse driver loaded....
Well the "mouse driver" problem is one with version 1.01, and it's REAL!
Not everybody is as "technically" inclined as you seem to be. There are
even some computers out there that load a mouse driver if one is
detected on the mouse-bus (non-serial mouse). Yeh, I know they can
unplug their mouse before they boot-up. The point is that it is SLOPPY
programming to allow minor annoyances like these to crop up in a RETAIL
version of software. Nowhere did I ever see an "a" or "b" in the
version numbers for alpha or beta. We are paying for quality software.
Maybe we should thank Netscape for this new and improved trend of
releasing buggy software after buggy software. At least with Netscape,
I don't have to pay for the beta versions.
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