Grand Prix2 VIDEO question!! PLEASE HELP ME

Hi everyone.. I have a P90 32megs with an ATI MACH64 Turbo 2megs VRAM. When I type 'gp2 log:on' I get a video score of 107!!!! I played on my brothers P166 with a MATROX MILLENIUM 2megs VRAM and when I type 'gp2 log:on' I get a WHOPPOING 460 video score!!! My question is this .. Is the ATI MACH64 that shitty of a card?!!??! Or does my brothers P166 have something to do with the high video scrores.. I would GREATLY appreciate it if some out ther with other video cards (or an ATI MACH64) could post their video scores.. I'm thinking of buying the MATROX if that's the problem..

I have a Matrox 4 meg card and get 606 on the video score. Maybe the Matrox cards are that much faster. JEB in Vegas

Probably something wrong with your setup (I would'nt know what though). I get a Video Speed of 164 with a 2meg DRAM Mach64 (ATI Xpression) on a 486DX4-100. Enzo Franzese Toronto, Canada

I have p166 and Matrox millenium too and it gives me: processor speed 393 video speed 473 looks like ATI makes good windows cards but thats about all theyre good for...I have seen other posts about mach64 and they all have been wondering their video performance in dos too...(their video perf. range seemed vary from 100 - 170). Id like to see some video performance scores from diamond and Hercules cards too... has anyone tried univbe 5.2 with gp2? it speeds up irc2 in svga ...atleast with diamond cards... ...so if U own a Diamond card try univbe and it should boost your performance...dunno about other cards...Matrox has vesa 2.0 installed in the card itself and I have seen posts that univbe doesnt really do anything for them. However...I may be wrong ...as usually :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<Ville Kopu>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ViK at IRC, #f1 & #gp2 http://koti.kolumbus.fi/~vkopu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<Second is first of loserS>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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>> Hi everyone.. I have a P90 32megs with an ATI MACH64 Turbo 2megs VRAM. > When I type 'gp2 log:on' I get a >> video score of 107!!!! I played on my brothers P166 with a MATROX > MILLENIUM 2megs VRAM and when I type >> 'gp2 log:on' I get a WHOPPOING 460 video score!!! My question is this .. > Is the ATI MACH64 that shitty >> of a card?!!??! Or does my brothers P166 have something to do with the > high video scrores.. I would >> GREATLY appreciate it if some out ther with other video cards (or an ATI > MACH64) could post their video >> scores.. I'm thinking of buying the MATROX if that's the problem.. >Probably something wrong with your setup (I would'nt know what though). >I get a Video Speed of 164 with a 2meg DRAM Mach64 (ATI Xpression) >on a 486DX4-100.

I've got a P133 at work and an ATI Mach64 w/2meg, and the video score on it is 69!! My 5x86 133 at home has a 1 meg Trident VLB and gets a 90. I think the ATI is just not a good performer. I am in the search for a decent but cheap card that will perform sufficient in dos and windows. Is the Diamond Stealth64 the way to go (on a budget)? Craig

>> Hi everyone.. I have a P90 32megs with an ATI MACH64 Turbo 2megs VRAM. When I type 'gp2 log:on' I get a >> video score of 107!!!! I played on my brothers P166 with a MATROX MILLENIUM 2megs VRAM and when I type >> 'gp2 log:on' I get a WHOPPOING 460 video score!!! My question is this .. Is the ATI MACH64 that shitty >> of a card?!!??! Or does my brothers P166 have something to do with the high video scrores.. I would >> GREATLY appreciate it if some out ther with other video cards (or an ATI MACH64) could post their video >> scores.. I'm thinking of buying the MATROX if that's the problem.. I also have a p90 430fx board, mach64 w/2 meg DRAM, and i get processor 175 video 147 YES!! so far thats the best video score ive seen for a mach64 card. Jeff

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|> > |> > Hi everyone.. I have a P90 32megs with an ATI MACH64 Turbo 2megs VRAM. When I type 'gp2 log:on' I get a |> > video score of 107!!!! I played on my brothers P166 with a MATROX MILLENIUM 2megs VRAM and when I type |> > 'gp2 log:on' I get a WHOPPOING 460 video score!!! My question is this .. Is the ATI MACH64 that shitty |> > of a card?!!??! Or does my brothers P166 have something to do with the high video scrores.. I would |> > GREATLY appreciate it if some out ther with other video cards (or an ATI MACH64) could post their video |> > scores.. I'm thinking of buying the MATROX if that's the problem.. |> |> I have a Matrox 4 meg card and get 606 on the video score. |> Maybe the Matrox cards are that much faster. |> |> JEB in Vegas

I replaced the ATI Mach64 2MB VRAM with a Matrox Millennium 2MB WRAM and got a jump in frame rate in GP2. I bought this card only for playing in GP2. It was great. Get the Matrox, dump the ATI. The ATI is ok in Windows, but awfully slow in DOS, especially the VRAM version. -- Isaac Wong (613) 763-6127 | Compiler Development, Public Carrier Networks

> I have p166 and Matrox millenium too and it gives me: > processor speed 393 > video speed 473 <snip> You sure it's not overclocked? :) My P166 gives only 323. :( I guess I can live with that. Now here is the real shocker: Processor (x86): 5 Dos Version: 00000007h Running windows 95 or above Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 323 Video speed: 30 Look at the video speed. It is just pathetic. The video card is a #9 Imagine 2 (can you imagine that?). Anyone else have the same card? Is there any hope? Please help! Otherwise I will have to return the card and buy a Matrox Millenium instead. Mike Zhenzhong Jing (+49-40-)8998-3259 (Office) DESY/ZEUS--Columbia (+49-40-)8998-3092 (Fax) 22603 Hamburg, Germany http://zow00.desy.de:8000/~jing/

The Matrox is the fastest Card, i have one too it is splended so buy it! Greetz !

I must be the worst, at a whopping 70. -- Suck The Goat

Hi How do i see my video speed??? MKH

>I replaced the ATI Mach64 2MB VRAM with a Matrox Millennium 2MB WRAM and >got a jump in frame rate in GP2. I bought this card only for playing in >GP2. It was great. Can you tell us how much of an improvement it made?

> > Hi everyone.. I have a P90 32megs with an ATI MACH64 Turbo 2megs VRAM. When I type 'gp2 log:on' I get a MILLENIUM 2megs VRAM and when I type . Is the ATI MACH64 that shitty high video scrores.. I would ATI MACH64) could post their video ATI Mach64 2M DRAM on P90 32 MB video score of 85.

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>> I have p166 and Matrox millenium too and it gives me: >> processor speed 393 >> video speed 473 ><snip> >You sure it's not overclocked? :) My P166 gives only 323. :( >I guess I can live with that. Now here is the real shocker: >Processor (x86): 5 >Dos Version: 00000007h >Running windows 95 or above >Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 323 >Video speed: 30 >Look at the video speed. It is just pathetic. The video card is a #9 >Imagine 2 (can you imagine that?). Anyone else have the same card? Is >there any hope? Please help! >Otherwise I will have to return the card and buy a Matrox Millenium >instead. >Mike

I also have a P166 and Matrox Millenium 2MB gp2 log:on gets: Processor (x86): 5 Dos Version: 00000007h Running windows 95 or above Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 323 Video speed: 494 Looks like maybe Ville has his P166 overclocked or something. Cheers. --John -- ------------------- John (Joao) Silva http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jsilva Seattle, Washington USA.

|> |> >I replaced the ATI Mach64 2MB VRAM with a Matrox Millennium 2MB WRAM and |> >got a jump in frame rate in GP2. I bought this card only for playing in |> >GP2. It was great. |> |> Can you tell us how much of an improvement it made? Video score jumped from around 100 for the ATI, to around 490 for the Matrox MGA Millennium. For the in game frame rate estimate, the increase was about 3 more frames/sec. I would say it is pretty significant. -- Isaac Wong (613) 763-6127 | Compiler Development, Public Carrier Networks

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>>> I have p166 and Matrox millenium too and it gives me: >>> processor speed 393 >>> video speed 473 >><snip> >>You sure it's not overclocked? :) My P166 gives only 323. :( >>I guess I can live with that. Now here is the real shocker: >>Processor (x86): 5 >>Dos Version: 00000007h >>Running windows 95 or above >>Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 323 >>Video speed: 30 >>Look at the video speed. It is just pathetic. The video card is a #9 >>Imagine 2 (can you imagine that?). Anyone else have the same card? Is >>there any hope? Please help! >>Otherwise I will have to return the card and buy a Matrox Millenium >>instead. >>Mike >I also have a P166 and Matrox Millenium 2MB >gp2 log:on gets: >Processor (x86): 5 >Dos Version: 00000007h >Running windows 95 or above >Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 323 >Video speed: 494 >Looks like maybe Ville has his P166 overclocked or something.

yep...Ure right its that "or something" :-) sorry this is quite embarrasing...it WAS too 323 not 393...sorry. looks like I should cut down crashing...I can see results already... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<Ville Kopu>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ViK at IRC, #f1 & #gp2 http://koti.kolumbus.fi/~vkopu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<Second is first of loserS>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is possibly the most misleading statement I have ever read on this group. The video card makes a HUGE difference in frame rate. The CPU has the biggest effect of course, but you bring an ATI-Mach64 round to my place, and I will show you what difference my Hercules Dynamite 128 makes to GP2 - you WOULD be convinced. Cheers! John _________________________________ __ _____| |_____ __ ________| |__| :| John Wallace | |__| |________ \ :| |::| :| Team WW Racing TSW | |::| | / > :| |::| :|_________________________________| |::| | < / :|__|::|____/ * Sim Racing News * \____|::|__| \ /______:/ \::/ http://sneezy.dcn.ed.ac.uk/simnews/index.htm \::/ \._____\ http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~harmon/simnews

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>>scores.. I'm thinking of buying the MATROX if that's the problem.. >I have p166 and Matrox millenium too and it gives me: >processor speed 393 >video speed 473 >looks like ATI makes good windows cards but thats about all theyre >good for...I have seen other posts about mach64 and they all have been >wondering their video performance in dos too...(their video perf. >range seemed vary from 100 - 170).

Man, I have a Fahrenheit Pro 64 which is about $125 more expensive in Sweden than the Matrox. Processor (x86): 5 Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 291 (P-150) Video speed: 129 Well, that was money in the bin. Cheers Martin

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> Here is a score for comparison with the Cyrix processor > Cyrix 133MHz (P166+) > 16MB EDO RAM 60ns > 512k pipeline burst cache > Triton II (430HX) > STB Lightspeed 128 (ET6000) > Scores: > Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 356 (no typos!) > Video speed: 462 (no typos here either!) > Greetings, > Pekka Heino > "Flyin'Finn"

Just to help you keep the correct amount of "humility" in your life, I'll share with you my scores on a P6 200, Matrox Millenium 4 meg video card: Processor : 379 Video : 606 (no typos either...(G)) JEB in Vegas PS Don't thank me, it was nothing really...(G).

Here is a score for comparison with the Cyrix processor Cyrix 133MHz (P166+) 16MB EDO RAM 60ns 512k pipeline burst cache Triton II (430HX) STB Lightspeed 128 (ET6000) Scores: Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 356 (no typos!) Video speed: 462 (no typos here either!) Greetings, Pekka Heino "Flyin'Finn"

: I also have a p90 430fx board, mach64 w/2 meg DRAM, and i get : processor 175 : video 147 : YES!! so far thats the best video score ive seen for a mach64 card. I've got a AMD 5x86 oc 160MHz with a Diamond Stealth 32 2MB DRAM VLB (ET4000w32p) Speed (c.f. DX2-66): 196 Video speed: 215