GPL no-letterbox mod?

Anybody ever make one of these? I might want to get back into playing GPL offline (and perhaps online), but I can't stand the letterbox effect, especially as my new monitor doesn't have a zoom mode. How do people get the nice videos and screenshots of GPL without the letterbox? OK, one more question. Has anybody made any "pre-chicane" tracks for F1 Championship? I really like the older tracks.

magnulus wrote:

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> Anybody ever make one of these? I might want to get back into playing GPL > offline (and perhaps online), but I can't stand the letterbox effect, > especially as my new monitor doesn't have a zoom mode. > > How do people get the nice videos and screenshots of GPL without the > letterbox? > > OK, one more question. Has anybody made any "pre-chicane" tracks for F1 > Championship? I really like the older tracks. > >

Guru made some mods to minimise/eliminate it. You'll have to search the RSC forums.

"Kevin Clark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ce55ag$jkn$[email hidden]... > Guru made some mods to minimise/eliminate it. > > You'll have to search the RSC forums. > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=34383 Malc.

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:410641f5$0$25133$[email hidden]... > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=34383 OK, I will have to try that out when I re-install GPL. Has anybody got any good mods for this game yet, such as tweaks to the tire grip?

magnulus wrote:

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> "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:410641f5$0$25133$[email hidden]... > >>http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=34383 > > > OK, I will have to try that out when I re-install GPL. > > Has anybody got any good mods for this game yet, such as tweaks to the > tire grip? > >

What you see is what you get with regards to grip. There is a 1965 mod though which is easier to drive because the cars dont have quite as much power. http://55and65.speedgeezers.com/gpl65/ Be sure to get some 65 setups as the defaults are for 67 and will seriously stunt the performance.

thanks to Gurus dlls I just improved from 1152x 862 to 1600 x 900... recommend it!

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> > Guru made some mods to minimise/eliminate it. > > > > You'll have to search the RSC forums. > > > > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=34383 > > Malc.

It doesn't seem to get rid of the letterboxing. There's a 16:9 rectangle in the middle of my screen. All it does is allow different resolutions. Am I doing something wrong?

"magnulus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HKHNc.47462$[email hidden]... > It doesn't seem to get rid of the letterboxing. There's a 16:9rectangle > in the middle of my screen. All it does is allow differentresolutions. Am > I doing something wrong? If you want to make the black bars as small as possible you'll need to select a tall (rather than widescreen) resolution & adjust your monitor to correct the distortion. The end result will be that most of the black bars will be drawn off the top & bottom of your monitor, but you need to keep some of it visible so you can see the chat & other information. There is no way to simply not have the black bars, but you can make the main viewing area fill more of the screen. There are a few FOV utils you can use to get the viewing angle you want too. Personally I don't mind the black bars, I prefer to think of it as giving me a wider viewing angle rather than restricting the top & bottom view. All you'd see is more cockpit (or road behind the car) and more sky anyway. Malc.

"magnulus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HKHNc.47462$[email hidden]... > It doesn't seem to get rid of the letterboxing. There's a 16:9rectangle > in the middle of my screen. All it does is allow different resolutions.Am > I doing something wrong? > >Well, that is the way the game is supposed to be, it was intended for a European flavor.. If you removed the LB areas, you would miss stuff that is displayed in those areas. Its not really a 16:9 game, but a 4:3 game with a letterboxed driving screen. The black areas are still used for certain things.

Malc wrote:

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> "magnulus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:HKHNc.47462$[email hidden]... > >> It doesn't seem to get rid of the letterboxing. There's a 16:9 > > rectangle > >>in the middle of my screen. All it does is allow different > > resolutions. Am > >>I doing something wrong? > > > If you want to make the black bars as small as possible you'll need to > select a tall (rather than widescreen) resolution & adjust your monitor > to correct the distortion. The end result will be that most of the black > bars will be drawn off the top & bottom of your monitor, but you need to > keep some of it visible so you can see the chat & other information.

Oh boy, up to now this problem was limited to the dvd groups. "Baaah, I want my frickin' screen filled!! Damn widescreen movies!!!" Imagine watching LotR with about 40% of the picture missing... l8er ronny

"Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ce98f6$piq$03$[email hidden]... > Imagine watching LotR with about 40% of the picture missing... It's not like zooming in on a widescreen film, gpl actually draws more information. You can use a FOV editor to get the car to look like it's further into the screen, back to where it would be with the black bars in place. On the subject of widescreen though, I have a normal (not widescreen) telly that's capable of displaying widescreen transmissions by adding black bars top & bottom (like gpl). The thing I really hate is when a channel (usually the BBC) broadcasts in 'widescreen' mode (ie they send the signal that makes my telly add the bars top & bottom) but the broadcast isn't actually in widescreen so I get a thick black border on ALL FOUR SIDES!!!. Malc.

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> > <snip> > It's not like zooming in on a widescreen film, > <snip> > > The thing I really hate is when a channel (usually > the BBC) broadcasts in 'widescreen' mode (ie they > send the signal that makes my telly add the bars > top & bottom) but the broadcast isn't actually in > widescreen so I get a thick black border on ALL > FOUR SIDES!!!.

Ooooh... that pisses me off no end as well. I applaud the BBC for showing both British and World Championship SBK races, but whatever happened to full screen in 4:3 mode? While we're on the subject, why can't I receive the digital and interactive channels in Belgium even when I own a DVB receiver? The BBC doesn't run ads (which disallows us access to Granada and Sky Digital), so what the problem? Jan. =---

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LjWNc.197553$[email hidden]... > While we're on the subject, why can't I receive the digital andinteractive > channels in Belgium even when I own a DVB receiver? The BBC doesn'trun ads > (which disallows us access to Granada and Sky Digital), so what theproblem? If you get a 'proper' Sky digibox you should be able to. I've watched Sky News & used it's interactive stuff in the South of France using a British Sky digibox with no viewing card. You get loads of freeview shopping channels, all the BBC channels (1-4 plus news & a couple of kiddie channels) plus Sky News even without a Sky subscription. Malc.

> Ooooh... that pisses me off no end as well. I applaud the BBC for showing > both British and World Championship SBK races, but whatever happened tofull > screen in 4:3 mode? It died a long time ago. 4:3 wouldn't be fullscreen on my (quite old, third) 16:9 set. :-D Mark

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:41079355$0$54265$[email hidden]... > If you want to make the black bars as small as possible you'll need to > select a tall (rather than widescreen) resolution & adjust your monitor > to correct the distortion. The end result will be that most of the black > bars will be drawn off the top & bottom of your monitor LCD monitors usually don't allow this. > > There is no way to simply not have the black bars, but you can make the > main viewing area fill more of the screen. There are a few FOV utils you > can use to get the viewing angle you want too. So can I make the black bars smaller? And where do I get this utility? > > Personally I don't mind the black bars, I prefer to think of it as > giving me a wider viewing angle rather than restricting the top & bottom > view. All you'd see is more cockpit (or road behind the car) and more > sky anyway. You can change the viewing angle in most other gamse without adding black bars.

LCD monitors usually don't allow this. So can I make the black bars smaller? And where do I get this utility? You can change the viewing angle in most other gamse without adding black bars.

"Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ce98f6$piq$03$[email hidden]... > Oh boy, up to now this problem was limited to the dvd groups. > "Baaah, I want my frickin' screen filled!! Damn widescreen movies!!!" > > Imagine watching LotR with about 40% of the picture missing... They aren't similar at all. I have no problem with widescreen movies. I have a problem with letterbox games. I want my screen real estate used more effectively than that.

Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote in news:ce98f6$piq$03$[email hidden] online.com:

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> > Oh boy, up to now this problem was limited to the dvd groups. > "Baaah, I want my frickin' screen filled!! Damn widescreen movies!!!" > > Imagine watching LotR with about 40% of the picture missing... > > l8er > ronny

The first time we saw LOTR:TFOTR, we were just about the last people in the theatre...I had to go back a week later to re-view the movie...we sat so close to the front and side that any time there was fast action, we'd go.... WHAT JUST HAPPENED? :) the funny thing about widescreen movies...is us SMART Americans think we are MISSING part of the picture(due to the black borders)...rather than actually SEEING the whole thing.. Same thing with GPL, there isn't much more picture under those bars is there? dave henrie

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > :) the funny thing about widescreen movies...is us SMART Americans think > we are MISSING part of the picture(due to the black borders)...rather than > actually SEEING the whole thing.. > There is nothing worse than buying a cheap "pan and scan" version of a DVD, rather than the full widescreen version. I made this mistake a few times on Amazon and it is really irritating to try to watch. Stephen

Hi, In article <ZrmNc.46359$[email hidden]>, magnulus <[email hidden]> wrote: > Anybody ever make one of these? I might want to get back into playing GPL > offline (and perhaps online), but I can't stand the letterbox effect, > especially as my new monitor doesn't have a zoom mode. Install Pribluda and you are happy that these borders exist 8^) Herwig

While changing the view angle gives a wider side range of view, it also shows more sky and driver's legs which isn't really important. That's all that is hidden by those bars in GPL in that format. "magnulus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<VxYNc.53933$[email hidden]>... > > You can change the viewing angle in most other gamse without adding black > bars.

"Malc" wrote... > > <snip> > If you get a 'proper' Sky digibox you should be able to. > <snip> Yes, but the problem is I can neither buy one, nor subscribe because I don't live in the UK. They won't let me. I tried, honest. ;-) Jan. =---

"Mark Davison" wrote... >> <snip> > It died a long time ago. I agree, we're backward in that respect. We don't even have digital cable yet!! > 4:3 wouldn't be fullscreen on my (quite old, third) > 16:9 set. The point is, their 4:3 SBK broadcast is not even fullscreen on a 4:3 TV!! -You have to agree that pretty much defeats any purpose. Jan. =---