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Gp2 Steering Help For Keyboard Drivers

5 posts by 5 people · 05 Oct 1996 - 08 Oct 1996

Unregistere 05 Oct 1996#339830
Gp2 - Keyboard Drives. It's driving me mad! Ok, i've been playing gp1 almost everyday since it came out, and i'm even more crazy about Gp2. But! Being a keyboard driver, i'm getting so fed up with the computer chucking my car around everytime i come alongside another car. The computer also takes over the steering when lapping backmarkers, the backmarker moves out the way, but Gp2 wont let you steer round it. I'm tearing my hair out because Gp2 just isnt letting ME drive MY car as i want to! **** This is what we need: A patch that disables gp2 from overriding the steering when coming alongside a computer car. I hope that wouldnt be too hard for all you programmers to do, it would certainly improve the game so much. I mean, i cant enjoy gp2 as i'd like, a patch to stop gp2 taking over the car would be brilliant... Any comments from programmers? Continuing...it's so annoying the way Geoff implemented steering help, it would be fine the way it was in gp1, but with the new release he somehow decided what a good idea it would be to help human players by steering the cars for us. If i go into a bit more detail about how the steering help/opposite lock works, you'll see just how annoying it is for us keyboard drivers. Opposite lock: If you tap left, gp2 will tap a little right, have you noticed how the car 'wobbles' when you try and steer? That's opposite lock coming into effect. When coming along side other cars, the steering help is totally changed, so if you tap left, opposite lock will turn hard right, and hence chucking the car off the track. It's so annoying, i hope this message will prompt a gp2 programming expert to develop a patch to solve this problem... Many thanks,
On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 18:48:06 +0300, Unregistered Hi Simon, Since you obviously play GP2 a lot, why not get a wheel or at the very least a decent joystick. It is an incredibly realistic driving model when you use a wheel (with all aids turned off of course <g>). If you play it a lot, justify the cost by saying that it is so many pence per hour rather than a large one off price! Better still, so many pence per lap - sounds very, very cheap like this <gg> I suspect that this would actually be rather hard and would involve delving into the very internals of how GP2 is written (most patches are only concerned with altering data values). It is perhaps a little unreasonable to expect someone else to devote several days/weeks of their time simply so you can avoid spending some of your own money! Cheers, Richard
I am using a joystick and also find these problems very annoying. Most of the time I can't keep on the track without streering help. But with streering help have you ever found that when you slowly come up behind someone and attempt an overtake, your car suddenly darts out to leave you in the gravel? Also I know what you mean about lapping lappers, it just dosent let you through on slow corners. I suppose i'll just have to practice without streering help. TkT.
> I am using a joystick and also find these problems very annoying. Most > of the time I can't keep on the track without streering help. But with No-one ever told you were going to be able to race after 10 laps or something... It's practise practise.... Only now I'm competitive at ace level at just 3 tracks... After 4 months of playing Yves
Quoted text (21 lines)>On Sat, 05 Oct 1996 18:48:06 +0300, Unregistered >Hi Simon, >>But! Being a keyboard driver, i'm getting so fed up with the computer >>chucking my car around everytime i come alongside another car. The computer >>also takes over the steering when lapping backmarkers, the backmarker moves >>out the way, but Gp2 wont let you steer round it. >>I'm tearing my hair out because Gp2 just isnt letting ME drive MY car as >>i want to! >>This is what we need: A patch that disables gp2 from overriding the steering >> when coming alongside a computer car. >>I hope that wouldnt be too hard for all you programmers to do >I suspect that this would actually be rather hard and would involve >delving into the very internals of how GP2 is written (most patches >are only concerned with altering data values). It is perhaps a little >unreasonable to expect someone else to devote several days/weeks of >their time simply so you can avoid spending some of your own money! >Cheers, >Richard
The lack of control is caused by steering help and opposite lock help being on permanently for keyboard players. There is a utility on Sami Nurmela`s site (just go to http://www.utu.fi/(lang_eng)/~snurmela/gp2util.html for it) that will let you switch these helps off. However the car is supposed to undriveable like this as you are constantly going from no lock to full lock, without the computer deciding how much is needed. As Richard said if you are unwilling to pay for a wheel then a small investment in a joystick is well worth it, the game is much more enjoyable without the helps on. Mark _________________________________ "..every lap I think `Oh bollocks! This is dreadful..`" Damon Hill __________________________________

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