Destruction Derby2: joystick problems?

[Pentium 100Mhz, Matrox Millennium 2Mb [BIOS v2.2], Sound blaster clone] Well, I eagerly rushed to Egghead last night to pick up my copy of DD2 PC-CD. I got home, and the (somewhat skimpy) manual explained the installation procedure as "insert CD, and the autoexec will install automatically". It then gave alternate instructions for the windows install. Ugh, I thought-- I have a millennium, and the DirectX/Win95 performance is nothing like the DOS performance. I installed it in win95, and sure enough it was REAL chunky and hard to play. And the joypad, even though calibrated in the windows control panel, didn't center properly when playing so that it would pull to one side all the time. Pretty dismal. So, as I was about to package it back up to return, I decided to explore the CD. To my relief, there was a "DOS" directory! It had a DOS version, which I installed. MUCH better performance. BUT! The joypad won't turn left! Actually, when I turn left, it seems to "wiggle" between right and left, having the result of just sending my car roughly straight ahead, slowly. And yes, I calibrated it on the calibration screen. I tried both my Gravis pad and a generic 2-button pad I have. I've never had problems with my joypads before (except in NHL97, but that's an exceptionally buggy app). Has anyone else experienced this? I would really like to at least *finish* a race! Although, it was quite fun*** around under that first big jump on the first track-- I'd lurk right past the top of the hill and speed up the wrong way when the faster cars are approaching. SLAM-- I estimate that on one occasion my car was sent up into the air about 20 storeys... Hey, whaddya expect when I can steer in only one direction? --kodiak ---

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>[Pentium 100Mhz, Matrox Millennium 2Mb [BIOS v2.2], Sound blaster >clone] >Well, I eagerly rushed to Egghead last night to pick up my copy of DD2 >PC-CD. I got home, and the (somewhat skimpy) manual explained the >installation procedure as "insert CD, and the autoexec will install >automatically". It then gave alternate instructions for the windows >install. Ugh, I thought-- I have a millennium, and the DirectX/Win95 >performance is nothing like the DOS performance. I installed it in >win95, and sure enough it was REAL chunky and hard to play. And the >joypad, even though calibrated in the windows control panel, didn't >center properly when playing so that it would pull to one side all the >time. Pretty dismal. >So, as I was about to package it back up to return, I decided to >explore the CD. To my relief, there was a "DOS" directory! It had a >DOS version, which I installed. MUCH better performance. >BUT! The joypad won't turn left! Actually, when I turn left, it >seems to "wiggle" between right and left, having the result of just >sending my car roughly straight ahead, slowly. And yes, I calibrated >it on the calibration screen. I tried both my Gravis pad and a >generic 2-button pad I have. I've never had problems with my joypads >before (except in NHL97, but that's an exceptionally buggy app). >Has anyone else experienced this? >I would really like to at least *finish* a race! Although, it was >quite fun*** around under that first big jump on the first >track-- I'd lurk right past the top of the hill and speed up the wrong >way when the faster cars are approaching. SLAM-- I estimate that on >one occasion my car was sent up into the air about 20 storeys... Hey, >whaddya expect when I can steer in only one direction? >--kodiak >---

Same problems here, except i don't have a fricken dos version!!! Mine turns to the left on it's own!! --Keith

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> [Pentium 100Mhz, Matrox Millennium 2Mb [BIOS v2.2], Sound blaster > clone] > Well, I eagerly rushed to Egghead last night to pick up my copy of DD2 > PC-CD. I got home, and the (somewhat skimpy) manual explained the > installation procedure as "insert CD, and the autoexec will install > automatically". It then gave alternate instructions for the windows > install. Ugh, I thought-- I have a millennium, and the DirectX/Win95 > performance is nothing like the DOS performance. I installed it in > win95, and sure enough it was REAL chunky and hard to play. And the > joypad, even though calibrated in the windows control panel, didn't > center properly when playing so that it would pull to one side all the > time. Pretty dismal. > So, as I was about to package it back up to return, I decided to > explore the CD. To my relief, there was a "DOS" directory! It had a > DOS version, which I installed. MUCH better performance. > BUT! The joypad won't turn left! Actually, when I turn left, it > seems to "wiggle" between right and left, having the result of just > sending my car roughly straight ahead, slowly. And yes, I calibrated > it on the calibration screen. I tried both my Gravis pad and a > generic 2-button pad I have. I've never had problems with my joypads > before (except in NHL97, but that's an exceptionally buggy app). > Has anyone else experienced this? > I would really like to at least *finish* a race! Although, it was > quite fun*** around under that first big jump on the first > track-- I'd lurk right past the top of the hill and speed up the wrong > way when the faster cars are approaching. SLAM-- I estimate that on > one occasion my car was sent up into the air about 20 storeys... Hey, > whaddya expect when I can steer in only one direction? > --kodiak > ---

Hey, I dont have the game so i cant help you with your problem but i was wondering what your opinion is of the game (considering you cant steer good).

On Sun, 01 Dec 1996 18:54:00 -0800, Gregg and Eric Abe >Hey, I dont have the game so i cant help you with your problem but i was >wondering what your opinion is of the game (considering you cant steer >good). Well, I haven't played much I guess... But I'd say I still like the first one better! Maybe once I get into DD2 more, I might like it. It just seems too choppy, especially when in one of the bowls-- spinning around while 20 feet in the air can be a little disorienting. Now, I've heard they're going to do a version for the 3D cards. THAT would be pretty amazing-- might make me go out and pick up a Righteous 3D card. BTW, if I start out with my MS Sidewinder 3d joystick, calibrate it, REMOVE it, then plug in my gamepad, it steers correctly. Sigh. --kodiak --- [remove the space, above]

DD2 is total ***in my opinion - if you liked DD1, you probably won't like DD2. My biggest complaint: How can you hit the oponents cars if you can't catch them! Doug -- ===== From the desk of Doug Burg - My Unofficial "Need For Speed" page: -----> http://members.aol.com/speed1racr/html/nfs_main.htm<----- My current list of items forsale at AuctionWeb can be found at: "You can make $$$ or you can make excuses, but you can't make BOTH"

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> [Pentium 100Mhz, Matrox Millennium 2Mb [BIOS v2.2], Sound blaster > clone] > Well, I eagerly rushed to Egghead last night to pick up my copy of DD2 > PC-CD. I got home, and the (somewhat skimpy) manual explained the > installation procedure as "insert CD, and the autoexec will install > automatically". It then gave alternate instructions for the windows > install. Ugh, I thought-- I have a millennium, and the DirectX/Win95 > performance is nothing like the DOS performance. I installed it in > win95, and sure enough it was REAL chunky and hard to play. And the > joypad, even though calibrated in the windows control panel, didn't > center properly when playing so that it would pull to one side all the > time. Pretty dismal. > So, as I was about to package it back up to return, I decided to > explore the CD. To my relief, there was a "DOS" directory! It had a > DOS version, which I installed. MUCH better performance. > BUT! The joypad won't turn left! Actually, when I turn left, it > seems to "wiggle" between right and left, having the result of just > sending my car roughly straight ahead, slowly. And yes, I calibrated > it on the calibration screen. I tried both my Gravis pad and a > generic 2-button pad I have. I've never had problems with my joypads > before (except in NHL97, but that's an exceptionally buggy app). > Has anyone else experienced this? > I would really like to at least *finish* a race! Although, it was > quite fun*** around under that first big jump on the first > track-- I'd lurk right past the top of the hill and speed up the wrong > way when the faster cars are approaching. SLAM-- I estimate that on > one occasion my car was sent up into the air about 20 storeys... Hey, > whaddya expect when I can steer in only one direction? > --kodiak > ---

I picked up DD2 yesterday and have the smae joysick problems. The game runs great in hi-res mode in Win95 with my new reactor 3D card on an AMD PR133 system with 16mb -70 FPM ram. system and Vquake is amazing! Has anyone informed psygnosis (sp?) of the joystick problem?

>> Hey, I dont have the game so i cant help you with your problem but i was >> wondering what your opinion is of the game (considering you cant steer >> good). >DD2 is total ***in my opinion - if you liked DD1, you probably won't >like DD2. My biggest complaint: How can you hit the oponents cars if >you can't catch them! Agreed, It runs so slow and is so unreponsive to the controls as to be unplayable (with my P133, 64Mram, Matrox Millenium, 512L2 system.) I can't believe they actually tried this thing out before they shipped it. Also the simple install, simply screwed up on my system and crapped 60M unto my harddrive including opening and closing avi's. Then it couldn't find the CD so it wouldn't run. Forget about this one kiddo's