Sierra Gets Shutdown

The lights go out at old-school game company, Sierra, as Vivendi restructures its business. More depressing news for the industry, Vivendi Universal Games has cut 350 staff and shut down Seattle-based Sierra. The venerable games company created some of the most popular action and adventure games in the 80's. The Sierra brand will live on in name only and projects tied to the Sierra pipeline, Half-Life 2, Ground Control II and Tribes: Vengeance are already being developed by other teams within Vivendi. Also affected by the restructuring, the Hoyle brand of card and board games have been canceled. "Restructuring the organization and reducing our cost base are necessary to improve our operating effectiveness and profitability," said VU Games CEO Bruce Hack, in as terse a manner as possible. "This constitutes another important step in our turnaround plan aimed to better position the company for growth." Along with VU Games restructuring, the game company is prepping up for profitability with a powerful lineup for the second half of 2004. VU Games is looking for some higher revenues with titles like World of Warcraft, Spyro: A Hero's Tail and the well-received The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay.

> Along with VU Games restructuring, the game company is prepping up for > profitability with a powerful lineup for the second half of 2004. VU > Games is looking for some higher revenues with titles like World of > Warcraft, Spyro: A Hero's Tail and the well-received The Chronicles of > Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay. Didn't spot GPL2 on the list... I used to think Sierra were the big bad men in suits in the old Papy and Dynamix days.

Jesus Christ, I am sick and tired of seeing that bloody phrase trotted out every time "management" wield the axe! I lived through two instances of that crap in my 30+ years in corporate offices and in both cases the situation was due to ineffective and blinkered upper management. Bruce. > "Restructuring the organization and reducing our cost base are necessary > to improve our operating effectiveness and profitability,"

"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:PLHDc.4619$[email hidden]: > I used to think Sierra were the big bad men in suits in the old Papy and > Dynamix days. Sierra was a small company that got too big too fast and then got eaten up by bigger fish. You can bet even in Sierra's heyday...of Dynamix, Papyrus and Leisure Suit Larry et al, they were more like a loose group of fans...then came the big French Businesses and Sierra had no room left for failures. Just as Papyrus got put on a very short leash by Sierra, they too were hobbled by the beancounters from above. Still if it was Sierra that signed all those copy protection contracts with Sony...then screw 'em I say. dave :) henrie

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:33:28 +1000, Bruce Kennewell wrote:

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> Jesus Christ, I am sick and tired of seeing that bloody phrase trotted out > every time "management" wield the axe! > I lived through two instances of that crap in my 30+ years in corporate > offices and in both cases the situation was due to ineffective and blinkered > upper management. > > Bruce. > >> "Restructuring the organization and reducing our cost base are necessary >> to improve our operating effectiveness and profitability," > >

I hear you, Bruce. And all that "growth" shit. Growth, growth, endless growth, the sky's the limit, yeah right. Ever heard of sustainability? Makes me sad. uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

If Sierra is being shutdown, what happens to all the NASCAR servers? The ranking system,etc.? -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League OAO MARA TransAm GPL Rank + 17.410 MoGPL Rank + 318.294 N2003 Rank -18.8060 ---------------- Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward -----------------

OLR..... "PC24" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I'd say you better grab your little rankings real quick, > before they do the TEN... get ready to say bye bye. > > Damn where will all the wreckers go ? > > > In article <Z7SDc.9111$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > If Sierra is being shutdown, what happens to all the NASCAR servers? The > > ranking system,etc.? > > > > > >

BClay wrote: > > OLR..... Or F1RST2 :-D Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Bruce Kennewell wrote: > > Jesus Christ, I am sick and tired of seeing that bloody phrase trotted out > every time "management" wield the axe! > I lived through two instances of that crap in my 30+ years in corporate > offices and in both cases the situation was due to ineffective and blinkered > upper management. As a Socialist I've always felt a need to blame the upper management when something went wrong......which of course is a bit of a drawback when you're self employed, I now have a MPD And so do I Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > BClay wrote: > > > > OLR..... > > Or F1RST2 :-D > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

IP works fine.

LOL!!! :D Nice one, Uncle! Bruce. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I now have a MPD > > And so do I

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:25:12 +0200, Goy Larsen wrote: > As a Socialist I've always felt a need to blame the upper management > when something went wrong......which of course is a bit of a drawback > when you're self employed, I now have a MPD > > And so do I What's an MPD? Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

I'd say you better grab your little rankings real quick, before they do the TEN... get ready to say bye bye. Damn where will all the wreckers go ? In article <Z7SDc.9111$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > If Sierra is being shutdown, what happens to all the NASCAR servers? The > ranking system,etc.? > > >

Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote:

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> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:25:12 +0200, Goy Larsen wrote: > > > As a Socialist I've always felt a need to blame the upper management > > when something went wrong......which of course is a bit of a drawback > > when you're self employed, I now have a MPD > > > > And so do I > > What's an MPD?

Multiple Personality Disorder :D Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Goy, I talk to myself a lot. Does that qualify? :-) Pete "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Multiple Personality Disorder :D > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

Most definitely! Bruce "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3TlEc.76365$[email hidden]... > Goy, I talk to myself a lot. Does that qualify? :-)

> >I'd say you better grab your little rankings real quick, >before they do the TEN... get ready to say bye bye. > >Damn where will all the wreckers go ? > I guess they'll just have to play with themselves... Although now it will be tougher for league admins to 'fish' for new league members. You won't be able to just drop in to check out available talent. Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

Pete wrote: > > Goy, I talk to myself a lot. Does that qualify? :-) In your case it could be a number of things...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

I'm trying to get my new best friend to speak up so others can hear him as well. :-) Pete "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:40e24887$[email hidden]... > Most definitely! > > Bruce

Can this company POSSIBLY screw up any more than it has ? Larry "PC24" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The lights go out at old-school game company, Sierra, as Vivendi > restructures its business. > > More depressing news for the industry, Vivendi Universal Games has cut > 350 staff and shut down Seattle-based Sierra. The venerable games > company created some of the most popular action and adventure games in > the 80's. The Sierra brand will live on in name only and projects tied > to the Sierra pipeline, Half-Life 2, Ground Control II and Tribes: > Vengeance are already being developed by other teams within Vivendi. > Also affected by the restructuring, the Hoyle brand of card and board > games have been canceled. > > "Restructuring the organization and reducing our cost base are necessary > to improve our operating effectiveness and profitability," said VU Games > CEO Bruce Hack, in as terse a manner as possible. "This constitutes > another important step in our turnaround plan aimed to better position > the company for growth." > > Along with VU Games restructuring, the game company is prepping up for > profitability with a powerful lineup for the second half of 2004. VU > Games is looking for some higher revenues with titles like World of > Warcraft, Spyro: A Hero's Tail and the well-received The Chronicles of > Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay.

Can this company POSSIBLY***up any more than it has ? Larry

Yeah, ranks right up there with "We are your government. We are your friend..." -Larry "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:40df916c$[email hidden]... > Jesus Christ, I am sick and tired of seeing that bloody phrase trotted out > every time "management" wield the axe! > I lived through two instances of that crap in my 30+ years in corporate > offices and in both cases the situation was due to ineffective andblinkered

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> upper management. > > Bruce. > > > "Restructuring the organization and reducing our cost base are necessary > > to improve our operating effectiveness and profitability," > >

Where do you get your rankings ? -Larry "PC24" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > I'd say you better grab your little rankings real quick, > before they do the TEN... get ready to say bye bye. > > Damn where will all the wreckers go ? > > > In article <Z7SDc.9111$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > If Sierra is being shutdown, what happens to all the NASCAR servers? The > > ranking system,etc.? > > > > > >

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:24:11 -0400, Larry wrote: > Can this company POSSIBLY screw up any more than it has ? > > Larry Yep, they could start top-posting and full-quoting in their press releases ;-> *ducks* SCRNR (c8 -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

I really can't see the objection to this so-called "top posting" It makes perfect sense - and is universally used in the printed format - to have the referenced data as a footnote or addendum or appendix to the current text, not immediately above it! So what's the "problem"? Bruce. "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yep, they could start top-posting ........

Q: What goes like this? open scroll read open scroll scroll read open scroll scroll scroll read open scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll read A: bottom posters ;)

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> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >>Yep, they could start top-posting ........ > > >

Slowly but surely our top posting trend (common sense) continues to gain momentum. Keep up the great work troops ;) Mitch "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Q: What goes like this? > > open > scroll > read > > open > scroll > scroll > read > > open > scroll > scroll > scroll > read > > open > scroll > scroll > scroll > scroll > scroll > scroll > read > > A: bottom posters ;) > > > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > >>Yep, they could start top-posting ........ > > > > > > >

Amen "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5SmFc.86118$[email hidden]...

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> Slowly but surely our top posting trend (common sense) continues to gain > momentum. Keep up the great work troops ;) > > Mitch > > > "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Q: What goes like this? > > > > open > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > A: bottom posters ;) > > > > > > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > >>Yep, they could start top-posting ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > >

yep fredrickson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%_mFc.1751$[email hidden]...

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> Amen > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5SmFc.86118$[email hidden]... > > Slowly but surely our top posting trend (common sense) continues to gain > > momentum. Keep up the great work troops ;) > > > > Mitch > > > > > > "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Q: What goes like this? > > > > > > open > > > scroll > > > read > > > > > > open > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > read > > > > > > open > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > read > > > > > > open > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > scroll > > > read > > > > > > A: bottom posters ;) > > > > > > > > > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > >>Yep, they could start top-posting ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Outlook [Express]? Ok. Just use decent newsreader. Ok. You may need to scroll here too, but I prefer to use <space>. Ok, though I prefer <space> again, btw it works for all those actions. See above. See above. Ok. <space> again. Don't forget to oil the wheel. Why do you need to open all the time, isn't your newsreader doing it automatically? Damn, now I have to scroll myself to figure out what I'm answering too. Oh well, I can just keep ranting, anyway who cares what they were saying before... :) Alex. Russell <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3sadnTpR0IbXanjdRVn- [email hidden]:

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> Q: What goes like this? > > open > scroll > read > > open > scroll > scroll > read > > open > scroll > scroll > scroll > read > > open > scroll > scroll > scroll > scroll > scroll > scroll > read > > A: bottom posters ;) > > >> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> >> >>>Yep, they could start top-posting ........ >> >> >>

SIR YES SIR!!! Mitch_A wrote:

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> > Slowly but surely our top posting trend (common sense) continues to gain > momentum. Keep up the great work troops ;) > > Mitch > > "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Q: What goes like this? > > > > open > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > A: bottom posters ;) > > > > > > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > >>Yep, they could start top-posting ........ > > > > > > > > > > >

Now thats what I like to see :)) S: "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > SIR YES SIR!!! >

On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:51:16 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I really can't see the objection to this so-called "top posting" I dunno about you, but I prefer reading what is being quoted before reading the response to it. Since I tend to read top-to-bottom and not middle-to-bottom-to-top it makes more sense to place the material being responded to at the top and the responses below that. Then again, most people on usenet don't actually read anything that anyone else is saying before replying, so I suppose the mass top-posting shouldn't be a big surprise. Something that would be fun: in-context top-posting. Reply to a post segment by segment, point by point, but reply to what you're quoting above each segment instead of below it. If you're going to be annoying, might as well go for the jugular, eh? Jason

I don't. But then, I'm upside-down (Down Under). "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I dunno about you, but I prefer reading what is being quoted before > reading the response to it.---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- I totally agree with you on that! :) How's the jugular so far? :) "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Something that would be fun: in-context top-posting. Reply to a post > segment by segment, point by point, but reply to what you're quoting > above each segment instead of below it. If you're going to be > annoying, might as well go for the jugular, eh?

I don't. But then, I'm upside-down (Down Under). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- I totally agree with you on that! :) How's the jugular so far? :)

Aye, Cap'n. :) -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5SmFc.86118$[email hidden]...

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> Slowly but surely our top posting trend (common sense) continues to gain > momentum. Keep up the great work troops ;) > > Mitch > > > "Russell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Q: What goes like this? > > > > open > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > open > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > scroll > > read > > > > A: bottom posters ;) > > > > > > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > >>Yep, they could start top-posting ........ > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Already read it all. Why read it again? -Larry "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:51:16 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I really can't see the objection to this so-called "top posting" > > I dunno about you, but I prefer reading what is being quoted before > reading the response to it. Since I tend to read top-to-bottom and > not middle-to-bottom-to-top it makes more sense to place the material > being responded to at the top and the responses below that. > > Then again, most people on usenet don't actually read anything that > anyone else is saying before replying, so I suppose the mass > top-posting shouldn't be a big surprise. > > Something that would be fun: in-context top-posting. Reply to a post > segment by segment, point by point, but reply to what you're quoting > above each segment instead of below it. If you're going to be > annoying, might as well go for the jugular, eh? > > Jason