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Canopus Total 3d

13 posts by 8 people · 03 Mar 1997 - 10 Mar 1997

Don Mullin 03 Mar 1997#358036
Is there a web site for the Canopus card? I'de like to find some more info on it. Thanks. -- To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! GO#2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
tvau.. 04 Mar 1997#358144
Quoted text (10 lines)> Is there a web site for the Canopus card? I'de like to find some more > info on it. Thanks. > -- > To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! > The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! > GO#2! > Mullins Motorsports Inc. > http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Yes there is! [link lost in import] -- Doug Wilson
Don Mullin 05 Mar 1997#358256
> >Is there a web site for the Canopus card? I'de like to find some more > >info on it. Thanks. > Try [link lost in import] or [link lost in import] > Ed Douglas Thanks. Anyone know if its worth the price compared to the other rendition cards? -- To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! GO#2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Eric Busch 07 Mar 1997#358468
Yes it's slightly superior to the other rendition cards in terms of Win95 2D benchmarks (only about 10% or so in Ziff-Davis' WinBench 97 Business Graphics WinMarks). Considering this translates into an even smaller real-world difference (as benchmarks tend to do), I don't think it's worth the extra $110. You also need to keep in mind the lifespan of these cards. With the trends in 3D right now, 6-8 months will be pushing it. Knowing full well these cards will be out dated by the upcoming cards using the Rendition V2000 chip, why spend the money on the Canopus when you can get a card nearly as good for 40% less? I think it's throwing money away, as the short term gains just aren't worth it. -- The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars/index.html-ssi http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/
Drbob 07 Mar 1997#358469
Eric - I've read that the Canopus is superior for non-game Win95 stuff. Since most of us don't want to fool with two cards, did you consider that in your recommendation? bob
Don Mullin 07 Mar 1997#358470
Quoted text (26 lines)> Yes it's slightly superior to the other rendition cards in terms of > Win95 2D benchmarks (only about 10% or so in Ziff-Davis' WinBench 97 > Business Graphics WinMarks). Considering this translates into an even > smaller real-world difference (as benchmarks tend to do), I don't think > it's worth the extra $110. You also need to keep in mind the lifespan > of these cards. With the trends in 3D right now, 6-8 months will be > pushing it. Knowing full well these cards will be out dated by the > upcoming cards using the Rendition V2000 chip, why spend the money on > the Canopus when you can get a card nearly as good for 40% less? I > think it's throwing money away, as the short term gains just aren't > worth it. > -- > The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative > [link lost in import] > [link lost in import: /~ebusch/] > > Eric - I've read that the Canopus is superior for non-game Win95 > stuff. > > Since most of us don't want to fool with two cards, did you consider > that > > in your recommendation?
When is the Rendition V2000 coing out? Is it going to be much faster than the current Rendition? -- To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! GO#2! Mullins Motorsports Inc. http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Phil Bowe 10 Mar 1997#358867
I have a Total 3D and there are a few more benifits than just the obvoius spec's You read. You do get the 3D glasses. These are very fun, however only the games supplied with the card use them, and only some of them. The Resolutions supported are greater than anything else. I can run 1280x1024X64K where the other cards stop at 1152x865 and 1024x768. (In High Color). and I don't beleive any of the others (CL 3D/ S3D / Reactor ...) will run over 1152x864 at any color depth. For most people this is no big deal cause almost noone runs higher that 1152x864 all the time anyhow. In fact, I run 11x8 on a 21" monitor and feel that 12x10 is a little much for everyday use, though I do use it for some apps. Text Quality in Windows is Better in my opinion. But that's about as subjective as an opinion can get. Even though I have seen them Side by Side It is difficult to say one is superior in picture quality. The Tech support at Canopus is * * * * *. I can't say enough about the people and response time. In defense of other brands, I really haven't seen many substantiated claims of poor service from any of the others besides Creative (Who just plain sucks on all product support). My decision was made on Speed more than the bundle and also on the 3D glasses. I was switching from a Millennium 4MB and understood I would take a performance hit in windows and dos. Cost (Within Reason) was not really an object. If it had been $400 I would have tried it. In Hindsight, at the current pricing, Having seen 3 other brands in action, I would make the same decision, but again +/- $100 I can eat. I feel the Total 3D is a good choice, Your $ have to decide for You. Think of it like this. If you bought a P166 3-4 Months ago, the difference between a P133 and P166 Chip was about $200-$225. The performance gain (for the CPU Only) was about 9% in the real world in application tests. Did you spend it then? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- The United States Government allows You to buy a home and call it your own, as long as You continue to buy it back from them, each year... Phil Bower, Micro-Second Computers > > >Is there a web site for the Canopus card? I'de like to find some more > > >info on it. Thanks. > > Try [link lost in import] or [link lost in import] > > Ed Douglas > Thanks. Anyone know if its worth the price compared to the other > rendition cards? > -- > To all you villans out there I say, knock off all that evil! > The Rusty Wallace Miller Lite stock car, awsome when opened up! > GO#2! > Mullins Motorsports Inc. > http://www.***tron.com/~ddmj
Eric Busch 10 Mar 1997#358868
I really discount the 3D specs as much of a factor, as they currently only work with the two bundled games and doubtfully will receive much support in the future. The 3D-enhanced games are running at what appears to be 320x200 resolution. But because of the way these glasses work (quickly flipping between slightly different images in the left and right pane giving the illusion of 3D), it's actually using 640x400 pixels. Thus for a 3D-enhanced SVGA version (a perceived 640x480) it would take 1,280x960 pixels. To do this at a decent framerate just isn't possible right now with today's hardware. By the time it is possible, you'll need a new graphics card and 3D specs anyway. Your points about the higher resolutions and color depths are well taken, and admittedly I've glossed over this. The other Rendition cards really are not meant for large monitors, and instead are aimed at the gamer with a 17" or smaller screen. In these cases, 1024x768x16-bit and below fit the bill nicely. I would not recommend the Intense3D, Screamin3D, or 3D Blaster for someone with a 21" monitor. -- The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars/index.html-ssi http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

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