OT: Harddisk are dieing so quick recently...

Am I the only one or is that common now: Harddisks make it barely over 1 year lifespan: IBM notebook and desktop Maxtor ... Any brand I should prefer next time? JensSchumi PS: Now I know why they cut down the warranty to one year in Asia --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ GPLRank: -14.82 Monsters of GPL: sub 95

Hey its funny you should say that,i have had 3 Maxtor ones go inside a year all 120GB items after 5 years of none going at all and swearing by Maxtor. I agree something has definitely changed AD "JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Am I the only one or is that common now: > > Harddisks make it barely over 1 year lifespan: > > IBM notebook and desktop > Maxtor > ... > > Any brand I should prefer next time? > > JensSchumi > > PS: Now I know why they cut down the warranty to one year in Asia > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

I am trying this ... go here http://www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/digital-wheels.htm#Disk%20Drive and download this Tibetan Mantra gif file onto your Hard Drive... then every time it spins it will be acting like a Tibetan Prayer Wheel..... I bet it will last longer :-) Just an Idea! jv "JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Am I the only one or is that common now: > > Harddisks make it barely over 1 year lifespan: > > IBM notebook and desktop > Maxtor > ... > > Any brand I should prefer next time? > > JensSchumi > > PS: Now I know why they cut down the warranty to one year in Asia > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

"JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message > Any brand I should prefer next time? Samsung Spinpoint, quiet and cool, fluid bearings, SMART temperature monitor and more importantly a 3 year warranty. I just bought 3, very pleased (so far). The downside is they can be difficult to get hold of and generally cost a little more (here in the UK anyway). Jc.

This is a step-by-step guide on degraggling a motherdisc! http://www.datadocktorn.nu/us_frag1.php J.R.

OMG! ILMAO!!! B� Although, I'll bet someone out there never figured out this is a goof until it was too late, and in good faith actually tried this! Poor sucker. :( ____________ Pete Panaia "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

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> This is a step-by-step guide on degraggling a motherdisc! > > http://www.datadocktorn.nu/us_frag1.php > > J.R. > >

I had 3 80-Gb Maxtors die last year. I've switched to the "Special Edition" Western Digitals (80 & 120 GB, w. 8-Mb caches) and so far so good. "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cartnp$1an$[email hidden]... > Hey its funny you should say that,i have had 3 Maxtor ones go inside ayear

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> all 120GB items after 5 years of none going at all and swearing by Maxtor. > I agree something has definitely changed > > AD > "JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Am I the only one or is that common now: > > > > Harddisks make it barely over 1 year lifespan: > > > > IBM notebook and desktop > > Maxtor > > ... > > > > Any brand I should prefer next time? > > > > JensSchumi > > > > PS: Now I know why they cut down the warranty to one year in Asia > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > > > GPLRank: -14.82 > > Monsters of GPL: sub 95 > >

Oddly, this corresponds to the rampant droppage of HD warranties from 3 years to 1 year, industry-wide. One of those things that make you wanna say hmmmm....... -Larry "JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Am I the only one or is that common now: > > Harddisks make it barely over 1 year lifespan: > > IBM notebook and desktop > Maxtor > ... > > Any brand I should prefer next time? > > JensSchumi > > PS: Now I know why they cut down the warranty to one year in Asia > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:39:32 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Oddly, this corresponds to the rampant droppage of HD warranties from 3 >years to 1 year, industry-wide. > >One of those things that make you wanna say hmmmm....... > >-Larry All HDD's with 8mb buffer are still 3 year warranty. It's the ones with just 2mb buffer that dropped to 1 year only.

"Diskhead" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:39:32 -0400, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > All HDD's with 8mb buffer are still 3 year warranty. It's the ones > with just 2mb buffer that dropped to 1 year only. That statement reminds of a line from one of my favorite movies: "That's not entirely accurate." From Maxtor's website: "All Maxtor products purchased on or after May 12, 2003 will carry the following Maxtor Standard Worldwide Warranty policy: Maxtor Fireball�, DiamondMax� ATA drives will carry a Standard Warranty Period of 1 year. Maxtor DiamondMax Plus ATA drives that have an 8MB cache buffer AND capacities of 120GB or greater will carry a Standard Warranty Period of 3 years. All other DiamondMax Plus drives will carry a Standard Warranty Period of 1 year. Maxtor MAXLineT ATA drives will carry a Standard Warranty Period of 3 years. Maxtor Atlas� SCSI drives will carry a Standard Warranty Period of 5 years." A more accurate answer would be that it depends on the brand, size, and buffer of the HD you own. For the most accurate answer either look at the warranty that came with the drive or go to the manufacturer's website for the latest information. -- callsignviper The truth is out there. You just have to look in the right places and ask the right questions.

Steve Smith wrote: > > I had 3 80-Gb Maxtors die last year. I've switched to the "Special Edition" > Western Digitals (80 & 120 GB, w. 8-Mb caches) and so far so good. GREAT!!! I just bought a 80 GB Maxtor earlier this year :-((( Guess I better switch before the Grim Reaper comes a callin' Gary

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> > "AD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:cartnp$1an$[email hidden]... > > Hey its funny you should say that,i have had 3 Maxtor ones go inside a > year > > all 120GB items after 5 years of none going at all and swearing by Maxtor. > > I agree something has definitely changed > > > > AD > > "JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Am I the only one or is that common now: > > > > > > Harddisks make it barely over 1 year lifespan: > > > > > > IBM notebook and desktop > > > Maxtor > > > ... > > > > > > Any brand I should prefer next time? > > > > > > JensSchumi > > > > > > PS: Now I know why they cut down the warranty to one year in Asia > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > > > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > > > > > GPLRank: -14.82 > > > Monsters of GPL: sub 95 > > > >

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:25:38 +0100, "Josey" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"JS" <JensSchumi_not@home> wrote in message > >> Any brand I should prefer next time? > >Samsung Spinpoint, quiet and cool, fluid bearings, SMART temperature monitor >and more importantly a 3 year warranty.

After losing a Maxtor after 1 year. (never lost a drive before in 15+ years) I built a new system with Samsung serial ATA drive. Lost it in 2 and a half months. worked one day, next boot partition gone.

>Hey its funny you should say that,i have had 3 Maxtor ones go inside a year >all 120GB items after 5 years of none going at all and swearing by Maxtor. >I agree something has definitely changed I've lost 3 drive, all Western Digital. The most recent was a 120GB last year. My current drives(120gb and 160gb) are Maxtors. Roll the dice, I guess... Eldred -- http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Screamers League IICC League GPLRank -6.0 MoGPL rank +267.80 Ch.Rank +52.58 MoC +741.71 Hist. +82.34 MoH:na N2k3 rank:in progress Slayer Spektera lvl 72 assassin Slayer Spectral_K lvl 38 Necro US East

So, this rules out WD as choice for the next drive. Anybody has recent experience with Seagate? JensSchumi On 22 Jun 2004 16:17:21 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>>Hey its funny you should say that,i have had 3 Maxtor ones go inside a year >>all 120GB items after 5 years of none going at all and swearing by Maxtor. >>I agree something has definitely changed > >I've lost 3 drive, all Western Digital. The most recent was a 120GB last year. > My current drives(120gb and 160gb) are Maxtors. >Roll the dice, I guess... > >Eldred

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Been running a Seagate SATA 120 for about a year with so much as a hiccup. My drive Mfg of choice till they go belly up :) "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> So, > this rules out WD as choice for the next drive. > Anybody has recent experience with Seagate? > > JensSchumi > > On 22 Jun 2004 16:17:21 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >>Hey its funny you should say that,i have had 3 Maxtor ones go inside a

year > >>all 120GB items after 5 years of none going at all and swearing byMaxtor. > >>I agree something has definitely changed > > > >I've lost 3 drive, all Western Digital. The most recent was a 120GB lastyear.

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> > My current drives(120gb and 160gb) are Maxtors. > >Roll the dice, I guess... > > > >Eldred > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95 >

In my shop we swear by WD Special Editions with THREE YEAR WARRANTY. AFter what I've seen (I've been a tech for about 20 years) I wouldn't buy a hard drive with less than 3 year warranty - they're HARDER AND HARDER to find. Look carefully! Gunner JS wrote:

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> Am I the only one or is that common now: > > Harddisks make it barely over 1 year lifespan: > > IBM notebook and desktop > Maxtor > ... > > Any brand I should prefer next time? > > JensSchumi > > PS: Now I know why they cut down the warranty to one year in Asia > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

I have two Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 160GB SATA's in my machine. So far, so good. Also have one of the mentioned 80GB WD Special Editions, as well as a Maxtor 80GB in there. All are fine. My old Maxtor's in my server (20GB, 30GB, two 40GB and a 60GB) have been running for years, 24/7, and only one of the 40's has gone bad. -Larry "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> So, > this rules out WD as choice for the next drive. > Anybody has recent experience with Seagate? > > JensSchumi > > On 22 Jun 2004 16:17:21 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >>Hey its funny you should say that,i have had 3 Maxtor ones go inside a

year > >>all 120GB items after 5 years of none going at all and swearing byMaxtor. > >>I agree something has definitely changed > > > >I've lost 3 drive, all Western Digital. The most recent was a 120GB lastyear.

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> > My current drives(120gb and 160gb) are Maxtors. > >Roll the dice, I guess... > > > >Eldred > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi<dot>bravepages<dot>com/ > > GPLRank: -14.82 > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

JS wrote: > > So, > this rules out WD as choice for the next drive. > Anybody has recent experience with Seagate? That's what I use/sell whenever I can get my hands on them, both for sale over the counter and in the PC's I build I have relatively few warranty claims on them, they're reasonably fast, reasonably priced and dead quiet Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

There _was_ a time you couldn't GIVE me a WD drive. -Larry "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > JS wrote: > > > > So, > > this rules out WD as choice for the next drive. > > Anybody has recent experience with Seagate? > > That's what I use/sell whenever I can get my hands on them, both for > sale over the counter and in the PC's I build > > I have relatively few warranty claims on them, they're reasonably fast, > reasonably priced and dead quiet > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

Larry wrote: > > There _was_ a time you couldn't GIVE me a WD drive. WD is my backup choice but the warranty claims are currently much higher on them than on Seagates, but my shop is prolly too small to give an accurate statistical comparison, it's an indication though Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> Larry wrote: > > > > There _was_ a time you couldn't GIVE me a WD drive. > > WD is my backup choice but the warranty claims are currently much higher > on them than on Seagates, but my shop is prolly too small to give an > accurate statistical comparison, it's an indication though

Dont you sell more WD's than Seagates?

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> > > Larry wrote: > > > > > > There _was_ a time you couldn't GIVE me a WD drive. > > > > WD is my backup choice but the warranty claims are currently much higher > > on them than on Seagates, but my shop is prolly too small to give an > > accurate statistical comparison, it's an indication though > > Dont you sell more WD's than Seagates?

Nope, I only sell WD's when I can't get Seagates or when people want drives bigger than 200 GB Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--