N2 question

Has anybody else noticed when you are in the pits you can hear the other cars go by, but you cannot see them. I hope that this is not just on my computer. matt -- If you want to reply to me remove the no junk from my e-mail address. has been done to eliminate the junk e-mail that I receive.

>Has anybody else noticed when you are in the pits you can hear the other >cars go by, but you cannot see them. I hope that this is not just on my >computer. >matt Are you sure you're not talking about the cars out on the track? You cannot see them, but you can see the ones that are passing you on pit lane.

This was the same in N1 and ICR2...It's not your computer. :) Best Regards, Marc Marc J. Nelson Sim Racing News - USA http://members.aol.com/simracing

Of course you cannot see them. The cars you hear are on the track. There is a wall between the pits & track. -- Header address intentionaly scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

I can explain why this is pretty simply. Drawing order. When the viewpoint is on one side of the median pit wall (MPW), it shows only cars on the same side of that pit wall. (Otherwise, you could get into a situation where a car on the far side of the MPW would be draw AFTER the MPW, causing a strange-looking drawing order bug.) Since for the most part you aren't concerned about cars in the pits when you're on the track and vice versa, we judged this to be an acceptable solution to the problem. If we make the drawing order calculations too complicated, the game runs slowly on a given machine. (Some already think it's too slow...) For the slight benefit of being able to see cars on the opposite side of the MPW, we didn't think it was worth making the game too slow to run on whatever machine is currently "on the bubble." ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

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> >> Has anybody else noticed when you are in the pits you can hear the other > >> cars go by, but you cannot see them. I hope that this is not just on my > >> computer. > >This was the same in N1 and ICR2...It's not your computer. :) > I can explain why this is pretty simply. Drawing order. > When the viewpoint is on one side of the median pit wall (MPW), it > shows only cars on the same side of that pit wall. (Otherwise, you > could get into a situation where a car on the far side of the MPW > would be draw AFTER the MPW, causing a strange-looking drawing order > bug.) > Since for the most part you aren't concerned about cars in the pits > when you're on the track and vice versa, we judged this to be an > acceptable solution to the problem. If we make the drawing order > calculations too complicated, the game runs slowly on a given machine. > (Some already think it's too slow...) For the slight benefit of being > able to see cars on the opposite side of the MPW, we didn't think it > was worth making the game too slow to run on whatever machine is > currently "on the bubble." > ---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

However, if you select F10 (one of the arcade driving views) while in the pits, you'll see the other cars race by out on the track. God Bless, Steve

Try using the F10 key to see you car from the outside while pitting. You will then be able to see the cars from that vantage point. Otherwise the wall will be in your way.

Limited experience with the Papy games? Try F10, and you CAN see over the walls - you just won't see the cars. ~:) Marc