I installed the patch and then my T2 starting lurching to the right. I
reinstalled N2 and then installed the patch again and again the lurching.
The next time, I totally removed N2 from my system and then reinstalled.
No lurching. I installed the patch and got the lurching again. The
reason I did this so many times, I was seeing if any of the modified files
had anything to do with it. I found out that it didn't. It is definitely
the patch. At least for my system. So, I am reinstalling N2 and leaving
off the patch. I can handle the no 'save' game. I can't tolerate the
lurching.
I hope someone in our group can figure this out. I don't want to wait 6
or more months for Papy to develop another patch. There's a lot of smart
people out there. Please come up with something.
Kelvin
Kelvin
www.nashville.com/~james.hayes/kel.htm
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>I installed the patch and then my T2 starting lurching to the right. I >reinstalled N2 and then installed the patch again and again the lurching. >The next time, I totally removed N2 from my system and then reinstalled. >No lurching. I installed the patch and got the lurching again. The >reason I did this so many times, I was seeing if any of the modified files >had anything to do with it. I found out that it didn't. It is definitely >the patch. At least for my system. So, I am reinstalling N2 and leaving >off the patch. I can handle the no 'save' game. I can't tolerate the >lurching. >I hope someone in our group can figure this out. I don't want to wait 6 >or more months for Papy to develop another patch. There's a lot of smart >people out there. Please come up with something. >Kelvin >Kelvin >www.nashville.com/~james.hayes/kel.htm(snip)
Since N1 I've always had a "lurch" problem. It always happened
in the middle of turns on a speedway, never on the road courses. It
was just a slight jog to the right, enough to make you overcorrect
if you reacted and smash the wall if you let it be. I always
assumed it was a product of a bad setup, Papyrus' way of letting
you know that you needed to do more work. And it usually lasted
the first few laps of a race rather consistently and would pop up
later on every now and then.
Same thing in N2 before the patch. I had heard of a phenomenon called
'picket fences" where the seams of the tracks sections put together
in the sim form an electronic "bump". Don't know if this was a valid
theory or a fact, though.
After the patch I do notice the lurching, however it has a different
quality than what I've been living with. On my system the lurch never
tosses me into the wall. It's more like a wobble and then return to
course, even in turns.Kind of like the wobble you get when your
steering lock is set way too high. I notice it more in Kali, than on
Win95, and less in Dos than on Win95. It hasn't caused me to wreck
yet, but then I'm kind of used to lurching.
Perhaps a place to look is in setup implementation, or wheel lock
parameters.
I'm running a P-133...32megs ram..diamond Stealth 1 meg PCI
T-1 or T-2, ACM game card, patch installed on clean
version 1 of N2..patch stopped at C***te even
though files have never been modified.
Regards,
Greg
Gavel....Kali, TEN..retired from hawaii
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>Okay, > My brother had the "T2 Lurch" before the patch, right from >the first install. Guess he's really in trouble, he was hoping >that the patch would fix his setup. > For what it's worth he has a Packard Bell with an Aztec Sound >card and a Diamond 3D card (the earlier version PCI 2400?), and >only 16MB Ram. >Rich K.I thought I could live with the lurching. I was wrong, I can't. Lap 178
in third place at Dega (Saved the race back on lap 39 while exiting pits)
had been fighting the lurch all night and was in position to get a run on
#3 and #6 coming out of turn 2. I LURCHED hard right, smashed the wall
and heard, "that will certainly end our day". I am going to reinstall the
original ver1.0 because:
LURCH KILLS, JUST SAY NO TO LURCH.
BRYAN
Could it be that we need to work on our setups to cure the "lurch"...?
I have seen similar reactions in N1 with a setup I had used at Rockingham.
Just a thought
P60
16Ram
Acer S20 game card
High Res 7-9 fps
Minimal graphics use
Mondy
Why didn't I save the race again after lap 39? Hmmmm..............Because
when I race, I try to emulate actual conditions that I might encounter in
a league ( NRO if it ever flies). Call me crazy but I just don't get the
same satisfaction from winning a race after I have saved it four or five
times. If you run a 100% race and finish ( I race the A1's at 105% at
Dega, 101 - 102 most everywhere else) your palms are sweatin, neck is
aching and you probably have a good case of car butt. So in short, N2 is
a simulator and I try to simulate real racing. Of course using the save
game feature (which I do not have anymore due to LURCHING) is the only way
that a majority of people can race a 100% race due to all sorts of
legitamate reasons (time constraints, nagging wives, crying kids,
etc.....). Hope I've shed some light on my ways (LIKE ANYONE REALLY
CARES).
Good racing to all and remember, JUST SAY NO TO LURCH, IT KILLS!
Bryan Grauss, San Ramon, CA
bryan93
If it is a setup problem, why is it that no one has reported the problem
before the patch came out. Simple answer, it is not a setup problem it is
a Software problem, a hardware problem, a RAM problem or Hale Bop is to
blame.
I agree that the lurch is bad, although i cant say as I have ever seen
it....but from what you all state it sux..;) what I wanted to ask,(and i
know this wont make you laugh) is WHY hadn't you saved it since lap 39?
i mean, when you have already saved a race, wouldn't it make sense to
save after each pit stop? I don't mean to be mean an I'm not trying to
flame here. but man you coulda saved alot of that effort with the save
game...
TrenT
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CatchMeIfU.........................Can
Well I think we will see the lurching fixed pretty quick. Cause they
sure can't have lurching and latency problems on NRO and expect to be
noting but a crash fest. Lurching Would Kill NRO, if NRO ever
Lives!!
hehehe I understand completely...i just HAD to say something though ;)
I've been corrected in my earlier stance about the lurching, so now all
I can really say is, hang in there, they are fixing it...now if I could
only get a decent wheel on my salary...i could run those speeds
consistantly too.....
--
CatchMeIfU.........................Can
Rat) Date: 2 May 1997 17:33:43 GMT Message-ID:
If it is not a setup problem then I assume that all of you who are
complaining of the "Lurch" have done a full installation of N2 and have
been able to save your setups. As well as refining those setups so that
you were the best driver you could be due to the fantastic setup you had
created. I for one could not see the sense in using 1/7th of my hard
drive to do a full installation. So I chose not to drive N2 from Dec until
now. Therefore I have not had the luxury of working on setups until this
patch was released. I now will happily do everything I can to make what
setups I have better tomorrow than they are today. I will continue
reading this newsgroup as I have for the last 8 months. Patiently awaiting
any further developments concerning N2. If lurching is a software problem
let it be....deal with it until something better comes along. I mean geez
lets quit whining, drive your race car and show your stuff on the track.
After all it's only the greatest racing sim on the planet (so far). Has it
not provided you with hour after hour of pure racing entertainment. That's
what it's about...entertain yourself. If this sim doesn't do it for any of
you perhaps you could go back to playing solitaire...
Uh oh, here's another $ierra $py...........
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If it is not a setup problem then I assume that all of you who are
complaining of the "Lurch" have done a full installation of N2 and have
been able to save your setups. As well as refining those setups so that
you were the best driver you could be due to the fantastic setup you had
created.
I for one could not see the sense in using 1/7th of my hard drive to do a
full installation. So I chose not to drive N2 from Dec until now.
Therefore I have not had the luxury of working on setups until this patch
was released. I now will happily do everything I can to make what setups I
have better tomorrow than they are today.
I will continue reading this newsgroup as I have for the last 8 months.
Patiently awaiting any further developments concerning N2. If lurching is
a software problem let it be....deal with it until something better comes
along. I mean geez lets quit whining, drive your race car and show your
stuff on the track. After all it's only the greatest racing sim on the
planet (so far). Has it not provided you with hour after hour of pure
racing entertainment. That's what it's about...entertain yourself. If this
sim doesn't do it for any of you perhaps you could go back to playing
solitaire...
Mondy
I wasn't whining. I was just stating my findings. Oh, I still race, just
without the patch. Doing 190mph between turns 3 and 4 and Taladega, and
then it seems like you hit a beer can and head for the wall doesn't sound
like a setup problem.
Kelvin
www.nashville.com/~james.hayes/kel.htm
