Welcome to my killfile...
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Someone remember him????
I don't think that Dave Noonan is.
This guy devoted part of his life to make SimRacing good.
His converter were free and we all were proud of him. He should also..
This person had great courage of spending time and passion to make
SimRacing racers HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY! by
publishing FREE! the converters. He's my SimRacing hero more than
anyother and we should all respect him and BOYCOTT the Icr2 to N2
converter. In 2 weeks everybody will have the converter on their web
site so why pay for it. Even now a great guy who wants to make people
HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY! published the converter in a newsgroup. He's a
heck of a great guy. It's my opinion. Capitalism is shit. It's my
opinion. Long live to free cars, setups, utilities, etc.!!!!!! What
would you say if I would charge 10$ US for the Indianapolis track for
Icr2??????. No. I'm not the "$$$$$$ always $$$$$$" type of guy.
Remember Gerhard. Remember...
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
SPEED- Cars, WC, BGN, Trucks, IROC, utilities and more...
SPEED- http://www.sim-speed.com/~speed
|! Go Rubens Barrichello, Jacques Villeneuve, !|
|! Patrick Carpentier,Jeff Gordon and Greg Moore!!! !|
|! May the force be with you, always!! !|
|! Que la force soit avec toi, jamais!! !|
|! Excuse me for my poor English (I'm French speaking) !|
Flight Cadet Nien Numb, Gold squadron
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May the force be with you, always!!
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|! Official French r.a.s.s.m. Cool guy !| |! Official French r.a.s. cool guy !| |! Official Star Wars geek fan !| |! Official Anti-trekkies SW *** !| |! Official Jedi Master of NSWL !| |! Official SW Gonk religion fan !| |! #1 rec.autos.simulator post writer !| |! Best French SimRacer on the 'net !| |! Official Annoying long signature guy (thanks Eric!) !|> HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!
Hmmmmmm, one to many happy's makes me believe your either a freekin
idiot or you were doing some good *** and feeling real, well happy.
>HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY! published the converter in a newsgroup. He's a
>heck of a great guy. It's my opinion. Capitalism is shit. It's my
>opinion. Long live to free cars, setups, utilities, etc.!!!!!!
You, sir, are a blistering idiot (as Arturo from Sliders would aptly
put it).
I've got some news for your slow brain: by discouraging people like
Dave from making sim addons you cause just one effect: less sim addons
will be created. I'm sure Dave Noonan will never bother writing
another one, and with all the grief he's gotten over this I can't
blame him. All you're accomplishing with your pathetic whining is
*damaging* the sim racing community be discouraging honest programmers
from being involved in it.
Joe
I wish I had a killfile
Shawn Wise
Midwest Motorsports
ProHCS3 & HGNS3 on Hawaii
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>Welcome to my killfile... >-- >> <lots of stuff snipped>Free Agent doesn't have them?
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>>HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY! published the converter in a newsgroup. He's a >>heck of a great guy. It's my opinion. Capitalism is shit. It's my >>opinion. Long live to free cars, setups, utilities, etc.!!!!!! >You, sir, are a blistering idiot (as Arturo from Sliders would aptly >put it). >I've got some news for your slow brain: by discouraging people like >Dave from making sim addons you cause just one effect: less sim addons >will be created. I'm sure Dave Noonan will never bother writing >another one, and with all the grief he's gotten over this I can't >blame him. All you're accomplishing with your pathetic whining is >*damaging* the sim racing community be discouraging honest programmers >from being involved in it. >JoeWelcome to my k....oh, forgot, can't have a killfile with AOL. Maybe I'll
just write an add-on and sell for 10 bucks to give you more stuff to
boycott.
No. If it had, nobody would bother to buy commercial Agent. ymenard
was one of the people who made me buy Agent. I've never regretted it.
>>I wish I had a killfile
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>>s(nip) >>You, sir, are a blistering idiot (as Arturo from Sliders would aptly >>put it). >>I've got some news for your slow brain: by discouraging people like >>Dave from making sim addons you cause just one effect: less sim addons >>will be created. I'm sure Dave Noonan will never bother writing >>another one, and with all the grief he's gotten over this I can't >>blame him. All you're accomplishing with your pathetic whining is >>*damaging* the sim racing community be discouraging honest programmers >>from being involved in it. >>JoeQuoted text (10 lines)
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> >HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY!HAPPY! published the converter in a newsgroup. He's a > >heck of a great guy. It's my opinion. Capitalism is shit. It's my > >opinion. Long live to free cars, setups, utilities, etc.!!!!!! > You, sir, are a blistering idiot (as Arturo from Sliders would aptly > put it). > I've got some news for your slow brain: by discouraging people like > Dave from making sim addons you cause just one effect: less sim addons > will be created. I'm sure Dave Noonan will never bother writing > another one, and with all the grief he's gotten over this I can't > blame him. All you're accomplishing with your pathetic whining is > *damaging* the sim racing community be discouraging honest programmers > from being involved in it. > Joeblistering idiot (as Arturo from Sliders would aptly >>put it). >> >>I've
got some news for your slow brain: by discouraging people like >>Dave from
making sim addons you cause just one effect: less sim addons >>will be
created. I'm sure Dave Noonan will never bother writing >>another one, and
with all the grief he's gotten over this I can't >>blame him. All you're
accomplishing with your pathetic whining is >>*damaging* the sim racing
community be discouraging honest programmers >>from being involved in it.
utilities for profit is not damaging the r.a.s. at all. Someone will write
a free converter and will charge nothing. That's the way things work
around here. "..discouraging honest programmers..." Why would an
honest programmer be discouraged by someone complaining about having to
pay for a utility? I could agree with that if the r.a.s was historically
a place to hawk utilities. It isn't, though. It's a big myth around
here that anyone is indispensable. People come and go, they leave their
mark in the form of advice, utilities or both and move on. Behind them the
vacuum fills and others create. As repetitive as a Daytona post is the one
where people cry "..you're going to scare (insert favorite utility maker,
Software representative, webmaster) away!!". Some do go away. The
utilities and support just keep on coming though. I'd like to think
of the r.a.s. as Mr. Carver does, as a community where people share ideas,
programs and tech advice for the love of the sims. Those who share the
utilities for free have no reason to be discouraged by someone whining
about paying for them. The ones who charge may, indeed, be discouraged.
However, as I said before, someone will create the same program and
distribute it for free. And this makes that programmer no less honest.
Regards, Gavel <
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Uhhh, not to start a political debate or anything, but I believe any
fan of motor racing would have problems living in a completely
non-capitalist world. If I am not mistaken, the vast majority of the
motor racing series' that people actually care about are funded with
the results of capitalist "greed". At least that has been my
observation here in the US. And whenever I watch F1, Winston Cup,
CART, IRL, Touring Cars, etc., they all seem to have one thing in
common -- advertising! That's what pays the bills. I haven't heard,
but is Fidel Castro sponsoring a Winston Cup car next season?
So whether you agree or disagree with capitalism, if you enjoy the
top levels of motor racing, you are probably benefitting from its
spoils.
Just my two cents worth . . .
--Marcus
Sure is...The new team will be called "B.O.P.", and the main sponsor
is "Banana Republic" and "Juan's Used ICBM Sales." ;)
Marc
> "..discouraging honest programmers..." Why would an honest
>programmer be discouraged by someone complaining about having to
>pay for a utility?
Because honest programmer's usually get paid for an honest day's work,
that's why.
In an extremely limited way. Most of the racing utilities I want just
aren't available at all. Like track editors, or new tracks for
example. Why aren't they available? Well, probably because they are
too complex and too much work to implement as an unpaid hobby. And
given the hostile reaction around here to anything beyond hobby-scope,
I can't blame programmers for avoiding these larger projects.
Thats one it is, and someone choosing to charge for a particular
utility does not change that in any way, shape or form.
No they won't - the only utilities that will get created are simple,
low-end ones that people can afford to do as hobbyists.
Joe
: Uhhh, not to start a political debate or anything, but I believe any
: fan of motor racing would have problems living in a completely
: non-capitalist world. If I am not mistaken, the vast majority of the
: motor racing series' that people actually care about are funded with
: the results of capitalist "greed". At least that has been my
: observation here in the US. And whenever I watch F1, Winston Cup,
: CART, IRL, Touring Cars, etc., they all seem to have one thing in
: common -- advertising! That's what pays the bills. I haven't heard,
: but is Fidel Castro sponsoring a Winston Cup car next season?
: So whether you agree or disagree with capitalism, if you enjoy the
: top levels of motor racing, you are probably benefitting from its
: spoils.
Right, that is true. But, there are alot of talented drivers out there
that no one ever sees unless they go to their home town tracks. These
guys work a regular job and spend their own hard earned money to buy a
beater and fix it and go racing on the the weekend with it. They don't
even expect to get enough money to pay for the night's overhead when they
win. It's all for the love of the sport. Turn back the clock and see
where NASCAR came from. The same thing. Of course the "mill" has
ground out some great drivers. Dave Marcis is holding on by the
shoelaces of his wing-tips. That and alot of charity from some of the
well financed teams. He is the last of a breed. Even Alan Kulwicki
almost faded from the scene due to lack of funds. That is sad. In a
very microscopic way, I think that is what is "bothering" some people
about what they perceive is happening here. Of course there are as many
sides to this issue as their are readers and posters in r.a.s. Some are
just cheap, some are just plain idiots, some are idealists, and some
just don't give a damn and wish we would shut up!
: Just my two cents worth . . .
Have we collected enough pennies yet to buy the converter for the
newsgroup? ;-) If not, throw my $0.02 into the pot!
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Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.
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HI Marcus,
Thank You !
Yeah I think so. The Banana Republic Yugo <g>
Makes me wonder, all the whining I hear in RAS. Did Gerhard leave
because of these people <never satisfied always wanting more more more
more more>.
That's my 2 cents.
Chas Bornemann
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