I was driving to work today and it was raining and the road was
extremely wet. It was very humid and my windows began to fog up. I
turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came
flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep
so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and
I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was
heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100
foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I
over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the
steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I
attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2
and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww.............
Dag gum spiders!!!!
Kerry Grant
Sim racing credited with saving a driver on wet road
Kerry Grant described catching a slide on a wet road after being startled by a spider, and credited NASCAR 2 practice. Others shared similar stories of sim experience helping in real skids, along with jokes and a few rude replies. Jim Sokoloff argued that sims are a good way to learn car control safely.
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Automated summary.
I had a similar incident about a year ago in the rain in a borrowed truck I
was coming out of a turn on the interstate and the rear in slid out from
under me and I started heading right for a concrete barrier with cars to
the side and behind me. I managed to pull it out of the slide with about a
foot to spare and without anyone rear ending me and the whole time I was
going thank god I spin out so much in NASCAR so I know what to do.
Good on Ya, and glad ya still with us.
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ROFL! I am so glad you are okay and I am not trying to poke fun at
you but ...
" ... jerked the wheel to the right ... jerked the wheel to the left
... fighting the steering wheel back and forth ... AND skillful" ..
don't seem to belong in the same paragraph.
Perhaps the man upstairs deserves the most credit.
Happy racing!
Craig
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I thought they teach you these stuff in drivers ed
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>>I was driving to work today and it was raining and the road was >>extremely wet. It was very humid and my windows began to fog up. I >>turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came >>flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep >>so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and >>I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was >>heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100 >>foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I >>over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the >>steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I >>attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2 >>and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww............. >>Dag gum spiders!!!! >>Kerry GrantNice going, Kerry! Yeah, those red spiders get very aggressive when
they're trying to keep from going a lap down! <g>
Patrick.
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> I was driving to work today and it was raining and the road was > extremely wet. It was very humid and my windows began to fog up. I > turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came > flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep > so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and > I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was > heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100 > foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I > over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the > steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I > attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2 > and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww............. > Dag gum spiders!!!! > Kerry GrantQuoted text (16 lines)
> I was driving to work today and it was raining and the road was > extremely wet. It was very humid and my windows began to fog up. I > turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came > flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep > so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and > I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was > heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100 > foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I > over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the > steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I > attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2 > and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww............. > Dag gum spiders!!!! > Kerry GrantI did something like that myself :).
It was about the time that I started racing on Hawaii during the
closed beta. I was racing with N1 a every second I could, especially
now that I was so pumped up after racing actual people. I was driving
down a 4 lane road when the guy next to me started pulling into my
lane. I never realized he was there until I was almost on the curb,
but I had unconciously kept him about an inch off my bumper the entire
time. I had been racing the sim so much I never thought twice about
it <G>. My fiance on the other hand, wasn't exactly pleased ;P.
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Just to back up what others are saying. N2, and other racing sims
have improved my driving. There were a few instances last winter
where I was sliding around in the snow and ice, in one case, while
crossing a bridge. If I didn't drive so much using the simulators and
purposely getting myself in trouble in the sims and learning to
correct it, my reaction times would have been much slower.
Also, I do a little autocrossing and I've noticed that my ability to
get through corners has improved as a result of using GP2 and ICR2.
Hey, who needs driving school? Let's make using a racing sim
mandatory for getting a license. :)
James
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>> turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came >> flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep >> so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and >> I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was >> heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100 >> foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I >> over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the >> steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I >> attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2 >> and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww............. >> Dag gum spiders!!!!Quoted text (19 lines)
> >> turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came > >> flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep > >> so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and > >> I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was > >> heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100 > >> foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I > >> over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the > >> steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I > >> attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2 > >> and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww............. > >> Dag gum spiders!!!! > THose little plastic wheels in the kiddie saftey seats look real don't they? > Maybe mommy will let you sit up front when you're bigger. Does the little > horn on the whell make the beep beep sound for you while your stupidly > whippping the wheel around? Don't jerk and scream in the car little man > or the real driver might get upset. > What a maroon.Hey it is better than some old lady driving down the highway at 100 miles an
hour with their eyes close
they?
>Maybe mommy will let you sit up front when you're bigger. Does the little
>horn on the whell make the beep beep sound for you while your stupidly
>whippping the wheel around? Don't jerk and scream in the car little man
>or the real driver might get upset.
>What a maroon.
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>>> turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came >>> flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep >>> so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and >>> I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was >>> heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100 >>> foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I >>> over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the >>> steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I >>> attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2 >>> and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww............. >>> Dag gum spiders!!!! >THose little plastic wheels in the kiddie saftey seats look real don'tHi,
It's good to see that everyone is ok after there close calls.
Maybe I should let my sister driver the sim, she has been driving for
a couple years now, it would be a great defensive driving program! I
could turn off the spotter and test her spacial(sp) awareness. I
could also crank the races up to about 2000 miles to test indurance
(Isn't my sister lucky to have a bro like me!)
John
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>>>> turned on my defroster when a red object that looked like a spider came >>>> flying at me. Well I am scared to death of spiders and I was half asleep >>>> so I screamed and jerked.Well I was holding the wheel when I jerked and >>>> I turned the car suddenly to the right and begun to slide and I was >>>> heading straight for a guardrail which protected cars from about a 100 >>>> foot drop. I came to my senses and jerked the wheel to the left but I >>>> over corrected and I was now heading for the median, after fighting the >>>> steering wheel back and forth I finally brought the car under control. I >>>> attribute my skillful save to the many hours I have spent on NASCAR 2 >>>> and to the man upstairs. Whewwwwww............. >>>> Dag gum spiders!!!! >>THose little plastic wheels in the kiddie saftey seats look real don't >they? >>Maybe mommy will let you sit up front when you're bigger. Does the little >>horn on the whell make the beep beep sound for you while your stupidly >>whippping the wheel around? Don't jerk and scream in the car little man >>or the real driver might get upset. >>What a maroon. > >Hey it is better than some old lady driving down the highway at 100 miles an >hour with their eyes closeOn Fri, 04 Jul 1997 08:09:46 -0700, Patrick O'Neal
Well said Patrick.
Craig
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>> THose little plastic wheels in the kiddie saftey seats look real don't they? >> Maybe mommy will let you sit up front when you're bigger. Does the little >> horn on the whell make the beep beep sound for you while your stupidly >> whippping the wheel around? Don't jerk and scream in the car little man >> or the real driver might get upset. >> What a maroon. >"Drinker"? That figures... >Why don't you take your no-sense-of-humor, mean-spirited attitude and >go sit in the back of the room and be quiet. >Patrick. >--> Hey it is better than some old lady driving down the highway at 100 miles an
> hour with their eyes close
It is that much safer if she has her eyes farther apart? :)
---Jim
>> Hey it is better than some old lady driving down the highway at 100 miles an
>> hour with their eyes close
>It is that much safer if she has her eyes farther apart? :)
>---Jim
<G>. I wondered if anyone else saw that.
Personaly, I'd like to meet the little old lady that would drive
*anything* over 42mph on the freeway, at least in the left lane <G>.
Ron
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>> Hey it is better than some old lady driving down the highway at 100 miles an
>> hour with their eyes close
>It is that much safer if she has her eyes farther apart? :)
Well, you know, better depth perception...
I can't say that driving in the sims has helped my real driving,
but that's probably 'cause my real driving is done on two wheels!
Then again, much of my GP2 driving is done on two wheels also....
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> > Hey it is better than some old lady driving down the highway at 100
miles an
> > hour with their eyes close
> It is that much safer if she has her eyes farther apart? :)
> ---Jim
<<I thought they teach you these stuff in drivers ed>>
Which driver's ed did you go to? In mine, they told us that if the car
starts to slide, turn against the spin and pump the brakes. If you do
that, especially on a busy interstate, you stand a chance of causing one
or more cars to rear-end you. With the kind of weather the original post
in this thread described, drivers pumping the brakes to stop a skid is
probably what causes those 40 car pile ups you hear about in the Rocky &
Smokey Mountains all the time.
However, If you back off on the enough for the tires to retain their grip
on the road, and stay on the gas, you can maintain your speed and thus
avoid a 40 car pile up. Especially when your on the Pole at a Road Course.
<G>
:-)
PolloLoco
You're kidding, right?
I can see it... The teachers would certainly require very high
insurance because of all the rollovers! I mean, sure you can read
about it in some book, but it's a LOT different when you're actually
in the driver's seat.
Over steering and the like were definitely NOT shown to us when I went
to driver's ed, and that was about 12 years ago! I think they spend
even less time on the road today.
I think it would be a good idea to introduce simulators into driver's
ed. Something based on the NFSSE concept, like with the cops and
other traffic-- except limit the useable cars to Pintos and Mini vans
(don't want to give the kids ideas, eh?)... Negative points for
speeding, positive points each mile without incident. Hmm, on second
thought that sounds very boring. <g>
Heh, --kodiak
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> >I thought they teach you [oversteer control] in drivers ed
> You're kidding, right?
> I can see it... The teachers would certainly require very high
> insurance because of all the rollovers!
When was the last time you saw a regular passenger car (not an SUV)
roll-over without hitting something first? Probably never, because it
doesn't happen without hitting something, running over a pavement
change, or having a mechanical failure.
Right, which is all the more reason to learn about it in a controlled
environment where you're expecting it, than have to suddenly learn when
the shit is mere inches from the fan...
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