Best Hardware for F1GP2 ??

I will shortly be replacing my computer, and I would be extremely grateful for any constructive advice on what Graphics Card to purchase. At present I am thinking of perhaps a 200MMX, 32megs of EDO ram, and one of the Matrox cards. Thank you for taking the time to read this message. John Shorter

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> > I will shortly be replacing my computer, and I would be extremely > > grateful for any constructive advice on what Graphics Card to > > purchase. > > At present I am thinking of perhaps a 200MMX, 32megs of EDO ram, and > > one of the Matrox cards. > > Thank you for taking the time to read this message. John Shorter > I would consider an AMD K6 233 for GP2, I am currently testing one and I > am getting > better fps from the AMD vs Intel at the same Mhz, although it is slower > in Quake and other apps that are fpu intensive. For further info visit > Tom`s Hardware Guide att http://www.sysdocpair.com, great site for > hardware info. > Beers and cheers > Goy

OOOPS wrong address, http://www.sysdoc.pair.com is the correct one. Goy

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> I will shortly be replacing my computer, and I would be extremely > grateful for any constructive advice on what Graphics Card to > purchase. > At present I am thinking of perhaps a 200MMX, 32megs of EDO ram, and > one of the Matrox cards. > Thank you for taking the time to read this message. John Shorter

I would consider an AMD K6 233 for GP2, I am currently testing one and I am getting better fps from the AMD vs Intel at the same Mhz, although it is slower in Quake and other apps that are fpu intensive. For further info visit Tom`s Hardware Guide att http://www.sysdocpair.com, great site for hardware info. Beers and cheers Goy

According to some tests done , there is no big difference between diff. cards , mostly important is CPU speed , videocard can change your GP2 perfomance not more than 2-3% total . So choose your card for your other needs better .

I get slightly better performance in gp2 from my 3dblaster which is 2d/3d over my wifes 4mb matrox millinium. I've now added a monster3d which is 3d only & found this to be an excellent combo. There are better win95 performers but if n2 & icr2 are ya thing, the rendition cards are hard to beat. They also run 640x480 svga dos games excellently imo. You should also consider a tx chipset motherboard with 128 pin sdram slots, because that memory is 10nanoseconds as opposed to 60ns for edo. "Don't look back, they may be gaining on you" Phil

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> I will shortly be replacing my computer, and I would be extremely > grateful for any constructive advice on what Graphics Card to > purchase. > At present I am thinking of perhaps a 200MMX, 32megs of EDO ram, and > one of the Matrox cards. > Thank you for taking the time to read this message. John Shorter

I just built a system using the AMD K6-200MHz chip, and I have been very happy with the performance in gp2. It runs full forward detail (no clouds, tho), some mirror detail (no textures), at 23fps without ever going over 100%occupancy (except at monaco, of course). The chip rocks, and is considerable less expensive than an Intel P200MMX. I paid $250 for it a couple weeks ago. That's $100 less than the slower Intel chip, BTW. -- Matt & Audrey Lewis

>I will shortly be replacing my computer, and I would be extremely >grateful for any constructive advice on what Graphics Card to >purchase. >At present I am thinking of perhaps a 200MMX, 32megs of EDO ram, and >one of the Matrox cards. >Thank you for taking the time to read this message. John Shorter Hi John: Racing and flight sims are very demanding. Over a year ago I purchased a P6/200, with a 4 Meg Matrox Millennium. I have been pleased. This machine is used for Unix S/W development, on the weekends I give it a break and let it go racing. However, even my P6 can't run most of the races at max graphics with any mirror detail or sky detail and maintain the silky frame rates which I now demand. I'm specifying at about 23FPS, and the image I'm presented with seems "Like the movies" to me. Monaco requires that the frame rate be turned down to about 18, which is visibly "notchy", but I still love it. Like most people, I can't afford to purchase a PC just to see how it will run GP2. People with P5/200MMX systems are happy, but I'm not convinced that I would be. With the arrival of the Pentium II PCs, we have a new candidate for "Best Hardware". I haven't read any reports on how well they run GP2. GP2 doesn't support the 3D accelerators, which are reported to make less expensive machines scream. Someday we will have a great F1 sim that will take advantage of these processors. I think developers will then start adding features and push the limits of the available technology once again. I would suggest that you get the very most processing power you can afford. I was disappointed when I first ran GP2 on my P6. Then I installed a utility called fastvid, which sets the P6 support chips, Orion and Natoma, to run video much faster. I don't know if this is still required, but if you go with a P6, or a Pentium 2 with Natoma, give it a try. Larry

Hi Goy, the K6 seems to be a very good processor indeed. I would like to ask you to read my response to Kim and Phil Abel in this thread and do the same as I want them to do, please, pretty please :o)? /Christer Andersson, been driving GP2 for almost a year :o)!

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> > I will shortly be replacing my computer, and I would be extremely > > grateful for any constructive advice on what Graphics Card to > > purchase. > > At present I am thinking of perhaps a 200MMX, 32megs of EDO ram, and > > one of the Matrox cards. > > Thank you for taking the time to read this message. John Shorter > I would consider an AMD K6 233 for GP2, I am currently testing one and I > am getting > better fps from the AMD vs Intel at the same Mhz, although it is slower > in Quake and other apps that are fpu intensive. For further info visit > Tom`s Hardware Guide att http://www.sysdocpair.com, great site for > hardware info. > Beers and cheers > Goy

Hi Phil, the 3DBlaster sounds interesting. I have collected data from twenty different computers running GP2. I would like you to compare your two computers and post it hear. I want a line like the following processor, cache size, primary memory size, memory size on the graphics card, graphics card, processor occupancy. Ex: P133, 512kB, 16MB, 1MB, ET4000, 390% The processor occupancy is obtained according to the following rules: All graphics on (dont forget sky and texture in mirrors), 25.6 FPS, grid position 13 in a quick race at Monaco, note the highest occupancy during the signal just before the engines are turned on. If you would be so kind I'll post my results to this news group. Above you have my computer :o). /Christer Andersson!

I have data on about 20 computer systems running GP2 and it seems as if the Matrox Millenium is more 10% faster than most of the graphics card. Virgis, please read my response to Kim and Phil Abel in this post and do the same as I ask them to do, and I will post the results here. Pretty please :o)? /Christer Andersson, just another no helps and no aids driver :o)!

Matt, great another K6 driver :o)! Will you please do the same as I've asked in my response to Kim and Phil Abel in this thread? /Christer Andersson!

P6? Is that the Pentium Pro? I have a friend that's going to match Pentium II against AMD K6 in the test I mentioned in the response to Kim and Phil Abel in this thread. I will post the results in this news group. /Christer Andersson, a no helps and no aids driver :o)!

p133, 256kb, 32mb edo, 4mb, matrox mill. 340% p166, 512kb, 48mb edo, 4mb, 3dblaster. 310% Cheers, Phil

You`ve got it K6 233(at225/75) 512pb, 32sdram, 4mb, mystique, 220% (the sdram was the only way I could make this thing running at 83mhz bus speed, no performance gain otherwise) I`ll give you the results at 250/83 as soon as I get a fan that can keep it cool ( some darn customer came into the shop and bought my last hiperf. cooling fan ) Beers and cheers Goy