The iRacing site just went down for the conversion. Right in the middle of
a message I was writing LOL
Catch you all on the flip side!
-Larry
Notable threadiRacing begins controlled roll-out to subscribers
Larry reported the iRacing site going down for conversion from beta, and Uwe Schürkamp said he had bought a six-month subscription despite earlier saying he would not. Larry described a controlled roll-out with a sign-up deadline, while Ken MacKay and others noted missing features such as pit stops and said the product was effectively still unfinished. Posters agreed iRacing staff were receptive to feedback, while James Promme declared sim racing dead.
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:54:42 -0400, Larry wrote:
I caved in and forked out for a six month subscription. See you on the
track, I'm eating my words about not intending to sign up after the
beta as we speak ;-)
Cheers, uwe
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> The iRacing site just went down for the conversion. Right in the middle of > a message I was writing LOL > > Catch you all on the flip side! > > -Larry >
"Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I look forward to your comments once you get going Uwe !!
Enjoy :)
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> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:54:42 -0400, Larry wrote: >> The iRacing site just went down for the conversion. Right in the middle >> of >> a message I was writing LOL >> >> Catch you all on the flip side! >> >> -Larry >> > > I caved in and forked out for a six month subscription. See you on the > track, I'm eating my words about not intending to sign up after the > beta as we speak ;-) > > Cheers, uwe > > --"UweSch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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When is iRacing going to be open to the public? - Not that I'm desperate or
anything.... :)
RobP
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> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:54:42 -0400, Larry wrote: >> The iRacing site just went down for the conversion. Right in the middle >> of >> a message I was writing LOL >> >> Catch you all on the flip side! >> >> -Larry >> > > I caved in and forked out for a six month subscription. See you on the > track, I'm eating my words about not intending to sign up after the > beta as we speak ;-) > > Cheers, uwe >It's in controlled roll-out now. If you want to be part of that, you need
to decide RIGHT AWAY. Today is the deadline.
We may still be able to get you in.
As to full public release, that has not been discussed yet that I've heard.
-Larry
"RobP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> When is iRacing going to be open to the public? - Not that I'm desperate
> or anything.... :)
>
> RobP
Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote:
> I caved in and forked out for a six month subscription. See you on the
> track, I'm eating my words about not intending to sign up after the
> beta as we speak ;-)
>
> Cheers, uwe
LOL, well done, see you on the track eating humble pie :)
Cheers
Tony
Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Why would you buy a sub now when the game/sim hasn't even gone public yet?
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> > I caved in and forked out for a six month subscription. See you on the > track, I'm eating my words about not intending to sign up after the > beta as we speak ;-) > > Cheers, uwe >The SIM is in limited public release. It is out of Beta.
-Larry
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> Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:485222a1$[email hidden]: > >> >> I caved in and forked out for a six month subscription. See you on the >> track, I'm eating my words about not intending to sign up after the >> beta as we speak ;-) >> >> Cheers, uwe >> > > Why would you buy a sub now when the game/sim hasn't even gone public yet?Larry wrote:
> The SIM is in limited public release. It is out of Beta.
But the official party line is "It's not finished yet. It never will be.
We will constantly improve it and add things over time." They have
repeatedly said that if you don't like what is currently being offered
to come back in a few months, a year, ... So the difference between
Beta and current public release is that one you have to pay to use. ;-)
So yeah, I'm curious as to what changed his mind so drastically to opt
for a 6 month sub (especially when 1 and 3 month subs are available for
just a few $/month less) as I'm currently trying to decide the same thing.
Ken
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:11:57 GMT, Ken MacKay wrote:
> So yeah, I'm curious as to what changed his mind so drastically to opt
> for a 6 month sub (especially when 1 and 3 month subs are available for
> just a few $/month less) as I'm currently trying to decide the same thing.
>
Hi Ken,
I doubt you want a deeper insight into my twisted mind. muhahahaha ;-)
Anyway, I guess what did me in was driving the Skip Barber car online
in a 12 car race for the first time at VIR north course, it was great
fun even at the back of the pack and felt much better than the milk
truck and the Model T which are the only offerings for the rookies.
The beta testers (I was on the beta for over two years) have been
"rewarded" for their efforts with the entire iracing content available
at the time, so I decided to hang in there for another six months and
see how iRacing develops. I guess a month would have been too short,
and I guess half a year is about the right timeframe to really get an
idea what a post release iracing environment is going to be like.
All the best, Uwe
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Uwe Sch�rkamp wrote:
Ok, thanks for the insight. The skippys by themselves are great but
unfortunately my few online races with them didn't give me a warm fuzzy
feeling towards the other drivers or the system. I was thinking of
waiting a few months to allow the new crop of drivers to move up to the
skippys (assuming they don't all bolt after trying the milk truck ;-) )
that would hopefully mean bigger and better fields, and the ability to
race more often. Let us know how you get on with it... it's nice to
know someone is in there that's not afraid to give an objective opinion.
Cheers.
Ken
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> On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:11:57 GMT, Ken MacKay wrote: >> So yeah, I'm curious as to what changed his mind so drastically to opt >> for a 6 month sub (especially when 1 and 3 month subs are available for >> just a few $/month less) as I'm currently trying to decide the same thing. >> > > Hi Ken, > > I doubt you want a deeper insight into my twisted mind. muhahahaha ;-) > > Anyway, I guess what did me in was driving the Skip Barber car online > in a 12 car race for the first time at VIR north course, it was great > fun even at the back of the pack and felt much better than the milk > truck and the Model T which are the only offerings for the rookies. > > The beta testers (I was on the beta for over two years) have been > "rewarded" for their efforts with the entire iracing content available > at the time, so I decided to hang in there for another six months and > see how iRacing develops. I guess a month would have been too short, > and I guess half a year is about the right timeframe to really get an > idea what a post release iracing environment is going to be like. > > All the best, Uwe >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:FvO5k.688$[email hidden]:
> The SIM is in limited public release. It is out of Beta.
>
> -Larry
Just read it doesn't even have pit stops so it is very beta IMO.
"The Coward Robert Ford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It's missing a few very basic items. That, and the initial choice of
cars/tracks won't see it going far, in one of, if not the largest, market
available, i.e., the US.
And of course, it's not Hawaii/TEN days anymore. Simracing is dead boys,
face it or not, and iRacing isn't going to bring it back. Most folks have
moved on, grown up, (or should have) and have other, more important things,
fun and otherwise, to do these days.
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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:FvO5k.688$[email hidden]: > > > The SIM is in limited public release. It is out of Beta. > > > > -Larry > > Just read it doesn't even have pit stops so it is very beta IMO.James Promme wrote:
Hmm, tell us, what the hell are you still doing here?
Go change some diapers, your kids or your own... ;)
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> "The Coward Robert Ford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Mva6k.11330$kx.3342@pd7urf3no... >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:FvO5k.688$[email hidden]: >> >>> The SIM is in limited public release. It is out of Beta. >>> >>> -Larry >> Just read it doesn't even have pit stops so it is very beta IMO. > > It's missing a few very basic items. That, and the initial choice of > cars/tracks won't see it going far, in one of, if not the largest, market > available, i.e., the US. > > And of course, it's not Hawaii/TEN days anymore. Simracing is dead boys, > face it or not, and iRacing isn't going to bring it back. Most folks have > moved on, grown up, (or should have) and have other, more important things, > fun and otherwise, to do these days.
"Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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market
> > available, i.e., the US.
> >
> > And of course, it's not Hawaii/TEN days anymore. Simracing is deadboys,
> > face it or not, and iRacing isn't going to bring it back. Most folkshave
> > moved on, grown up, (or should have) and have other, more importantthings,
> > fun and otherwise, to do these days.
>
> Hmm, tell us, what the hell are you still doing here?
> Go change some diapers, your kids or your own... ;)
Ah, one who hasn't per above, eh ? <wink>
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> James Promme wrote: > > "The Coward Robert Ford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Mva6k.11330$kx.3342@pd7urf3no... > >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:FvO5k.688$[email hidden]: > >> > >>> The SIM is in limited public release. It is out of Beta. > >>> > >>> -Larry > >> Just read it doesn't even have pit stops so it is very beta IMO. > > > > It's missing a few very basic items. That, and the initial choice of > > cars/tracks won't see it going far, in one of, if not the largest,On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:43:05 GMT, Ken MacKay wrote:
> race more often. Let us know how you get on with it... it's nice to
> know someone is in there that's not afraid to give an objective opinion.
> Cheers.
Hi Ken,
critical voices are plenty even on the iracing forums themselves and
actually encouraged by both JH and the iracing staff.
When I triggereed a massive whine a couple of months ago about how
boring the milk truck was to drive, how I hated the incident points
system oh so much and how tedious and pointless those time trials
were, I got lots of feedback, support and only one "you must be crazy
bringing this up after two years on the beta team without a word"
(which wasn't true BTW as I'd whined plenty before this one, too ;-)
response.
So whatever iRacing is up to, I'm certain they do listen to their (now
paying) customers and try to incorporate their feedback and criticsm.
All the best, Uwe
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Each update, usually at the end of each season, has always brought
substantial changes to the system, many of which are based on user feedback.
Trust me. They listen. We don't _always_ get what we want, but they DO
listen and they DO make changes. As well as add new or improved content.
Every post-season update is like Christmas :)
-Larry
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> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:43:05 GMT, Ken MacKay wrote: >> race more often. Let us know how you get on with it... it's nice to >> know someone is in there that's not afraid to give an objective opinion. >> Cheers. > > Hi Ken, > > critical voices are plenty even on the iracing forums themselves and > actually encouraged by both JH and the iracing staff. > > When I triggereed a massive whine a couple of months ago about how > boring the milk truck was to drive, how I hated the incident points > system oh so much and how tedious and pointless those time trials > were, I got lots of feedback, support and only one "you must be crazy > bringing this up after two years on the beta team without a word" > (which wasn't true BTW as I'd whined plenty before this one, too ;-) > response. > > So whatever iRacing is up to, I'm certain they do listen to their (now > paying) customers and try to incorporate their feedback and criticsm. > > All the best, Uwe > > > --Never had any doubt that they listen to feedback. Have seem some things
change as a direct result of it. Iracing staff seem to be very
receptive to criticism and suggestions, they just can't please everyone
and can't get everything done at once. Some of their fans on the other
hand... well let's just say their enthusiasm sometimes affects their
judgment. ;-) Then there are the naysayers that crap on anything they
do. Some however seem to be able to give an objective opinion, pointing
out both what is good and bad. Those are the people I hope post on how
things develop.
Ken
Larry wrote:
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> Each update, usually at the end of each season, has always brought > substantial changes to the system, many of which are based on user > feedback. > > Trust me. They listen. We don't _always_ get what we want, but they DO > listen and they DO make changes. As well as add new or improved content. > > Every post-season update is like Christmas :) > > -Larry > > "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:485a015d$[email hidden]... >> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:43:05 GMT, Ken MacKay wrote: >>> race more often. Let us know how you get on with it... it's nice to >>> know someone is in there that's not afraid to give an objective opinion. >>> Cheers. >> >> Hi Ken, >> >> critical voices are plenty even on the iracing forums themselves and >> actually encouraged by both JH and the iracing staff. >> >> When I triggereed a massive whine a couple of months ago about how >> boring the milk truck was to drive, how I hated the incident points >> system oh so much and how tedious and pointless those time trials >> were, I got lots of feedback, support and only one "you must be crazy >> bringing this up after two years on the beta team without a word" >> (which wasn't true BTW as I'd whined plenty before this one, too ;-) >> response. >> >> So whatever iRacing is up to, I'm certain they do listen to their (now >> paying) customers and try to incorporate their feedback and criticsm. >> >> All the best, Uwe >> >> >> -- >I guess we all will see how fast they plan on doing updates, especially
to tracks. After the Memorial Day races at Lime Rock Park, the track
underwent a rather major track redesign. While apparently the original
layout is being kept intact, they are making other changes to the
layout. The updates are supposed to be done by the time the American
LeMans Series makes it to LRP for the July 11-12 weekend.
I wonder how long it will take iRacing to incorporate the change into
the game/sim?
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:43:46 -0400, Larry wrote:
Normally I'd quote from "Airplane" here (you know the speech Rex
Kraemer holds to Striker over the mike while they've long departed
from the cockpit) as it makes some references to christmas meaning
hell on earth and all that, but my memory is a little rusty. Something
about being kicked with iron boots and so on... ;-)
But of course you're correct, the updates have always been fun and
have usually managed to revive my interest in iRacing for at least a
couple of weeks.
Cheers, uwe
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