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Rendition Tracks page UPDATED!!!

4 posts by 4 people · 21 Oct 1997 - 22 Oct 1997

Matt H 21 Oct 1997#380066
> http://www.dclink.com/racer/index.htm > 2 new N2 tracks added 10-21 Sadly, this page no longer exists. It now reads: Sorry people, just when things were starting to get interesting, the page was gettin 400 hits a day, people started talking, and I was told to shut it down, they didnt like the dat files, and im too damn lazy to make a "patch". I believe that if you already own the software then who cares if I upload a whole dat file, its worthless to anyone who doesnt have a rendition card, and without the lp files and txt files, what can they do with it, AND im giving you files that you already have, right?? Sure you could copy the dat and make up the files yourself, but each of those files creates a unique identity for the track, simply guessing with an lp editor isnt going to give you a very "realistic" feel for the track. Isnt reality a big part of a sim??? more realistic it feels the more you like it. making these files yourself wouldnt be very realistic now would it? Any way, the page is closed, sorry, i guess the tracks are gonna have to stay on my puter, not yours, thank your no piracy network. I'd like to say a great big thank you to whomever pulled the plug on him, if that is indeed what happened, as he claims. Yeah, thanks a hell of alot. Whoever this BDF guy was, he was doing a great job on improving ICR 2 for the Rendition cards. A job that Papyrus Papyrus should have done in the first place. So I'd like someone explain to me how this was piracy. You had to own Nascar 1 and ICR 2 and a Rendition Card in order to use the new dat files, so how could this constitute piracy. Yeah go ahead, explain it to me. I guess I'm just stupid. -- please remove "spammenot" from the email address to reply
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:21:09 -0400, "Matt H."
Quoted text (20 lines)>> http://www.dclink.com/racer/index.htm >> 2 new N2 tracks added 10-21 >Sadly, this page no longer exists. It now reads: >Sorry people, just when things were starting to get interesting, the >page was gettin 400 hits a day, people started talking, and I was told >to shut it down, they didnt like the dat files, and im too damn lazy to >make a "patch"..... >I'd like to say a great big thank you to whomever pulled the plug on >him, if that is indeed what happened, as he claims. Yeah, thanks a hell >of alot. >Whoever this BDF guy was, he was doing a great job on improving ICR 2 >for the Rendition cards. A job that Papyrus Papyrus should have done in >the first place. >So I'd like someone explain to me how this was piracy. You had to own >Nascar 1 and ICR 2 and a Rendition Card in order to use the new dat >files, so how could this constitute piracy. Yeah go ahead, explain it to >me. I guess I'm just stupid.
Technically, the redistribution of the DAT file --- which contains code written by Papyrus --- is piracy, even if the DAT file is modified. The patches that modify Papyrus code but contain none of Papyrus' code are legal and don't require Papyrus' consent. The fact that the DAT files are useless without the original product does not make redistribution of Papyrus code any less contrary to copyright law. That said, shutting down the page is, IMO, stupid. ICR2 advertises as Rendition Ready, yet it's got, what, four tracks that are Rendition enhanced. That creates resentment. Resentment hurts sales -- long term more than short term, but it does hurt eventually. If it's Papyrus that shut him down, they would have been better off, IMO, authorizing him to redistribute the DATs, as altered, with an appropriate copyright notice. They are in fact useless without the game, and that would have protected Papyrus' copyright and intellectual property rights sufficiently to avoid potential risk of the materials falling into the public domain.
Jspencer 22 Oct 1997#380120
Uhh....Its still there.....You just cant get in through the main page anymore. Brian Kochmit -Team SAVATS

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