CART: No Steering Null Zone?

I've been playing the demo, and experimenting with different control setups. Surprisingly, so far I've had better luck with a joystick than my T2. When I'm using the T2, it doesn't seem like there is any null zone with the wheel centered. It is difficult for me to keep the car in a straight line. I'm constantly making minor corrections, often leading to overcorrection. It makes it difficult to set up for the corners. Anyone else experiencing this? I tried a bunch of different variations for the speed and linear steering sensitivity. It seems like the speed sensitivity should tune this out, but it doesn't for me. I actually thought my T2 might have been acting up, but I tried N2 and GP2, and they're both fine. --

--------------80F145A861A1A28BF4EA367E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've noticed this also with my GP1 wheel. I've tried everything. Right now I'm using halfway with the settings. I also have to drive slow to keep from overcorrecting. -- Busch Carpentry Plans? We don't need no stinking plans Busch Motorsports Remember, racecar is racecar spelled backward --------------80F145A861A1A28BF4EA367E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE>I've been playing the demo, and experimenting with different control setups. Surprisingly, so far I've had better luck with a joystick than my T2. When I'm using the T2, it doesn't seem like there is any null zone with the wheel centered.&nbsp; It is difficult for me to keep the car in a straight line. I'm constantly making minor corrections, often leading to overcorrection. It makes it difficult to set up for the corners. Anyone else experiencing this? I tried a bunch of different variations for the speed and linear steering sensitivity. It seems like the speed sensitivity should tune this out, but it doesn't for me. I actually thought my T2 might have been acting up, but I tried N2 and GP2, and they're both fine.</PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> I've noticed this also with my GP1 wheel. I've tried everything. Right now I'm using&nbsp; halfway with the settings. I also have to drive slow to keep from overcorrecting.&nbsp; <P>-- <BR>Busch Carpentry <BR>Plans? We don't need no stinking plans <BR>Busch Motorsports <BR>Remember, racecar is racecar spelled backward <BR>&nbsp;</HTML> --------------80F145A861A1A28BF4EA367E--

Same with my GP1 Ditto It's the game, I can't seem to get the hang of the very twitchy, over sensitive steering...Time to buy a TSW? Ack thippt.....

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>I had the same problem with a T2. I was able to drive, but I found the car >to be hard to control. I bought a Nascar wheel (ie T3) and the problem went >away. I took my T2 apart and found that the bungee cord was pretty stretched >out, leaving a big dead zone in the center. >BTW the T3 immediately whacked a couple of seconds off my laptimes. >Cheers, >John (CART Team)

I have noticed that when I calibrate the T2 in Win95 (using the Contol Panel "game controller" icon, or whatever it's now called with DX5), when the steering wheel is still, the little crosshair in the white box is jittering around somewhat (noticeably visible, yet not too much movement). Could this be a "stretched bungee" problem or dirty pots? And, would this be causing CPR to run erratic when the wheel is set straight (like so many people have complained about). Because, I cannot yet get it to run without twitching everywhere (and I've tried all the "non-linear" suggestions, etc). I haven't noticed any problems with calibrating N2, GP2, or ICR2 (all in DOS). Regards, John Wehman

% >I had the same problem with a T2. I was able to drive, but I found the car % >to be hard to control. I bought a Nascar wheel (ie T3) and the problem went % >away. I took my T2 apart and found that the bungee cord was pretty stretched % >out, leaving a big dead zone in the center. % > % >BTW the T3 immediately whacked a couple of seconds off my laptimes. % > % >Cheers, % > % >John (CART Team) % I have noticed that when I calibrate the T2 in Win95 (using the Contol Panel % "game controller" icon, or whatever it's now called with DX5), when the % steering wheel is still, the little crosshair in the white box is jittering % around somewhat (noticeably visible, yet not too much movement). Could this % be a "stretched bungee" problem or dirty pots? And, would this be causing CPR % to run erratic when the wheel is set straight (like so many people have % complained about). Because, I cannot yet get it to run without twitching % everywhere (and I've tried all the "non-linear" suggestions, etc). % I haven't noticed any problems with calibrating N2, GP2, or ICR2 (all in DOS). Have you tried Thrustmaster's ProPanel applet? I am not positive about the game controller applet that comes with DX5 is as fine-tuned as the ProPanel. I know they "operate" in a similar manner and allow for similar options. But I know for a fact that the ProPanel has been fine-tuned to allow for better calibrations with pots similar to those found in the T1/T2 and GP1 wheels. It's worth a try. If you don't notice this "jittering" in the calibration in DOS programs, it is more than likely a problem with the game controller applet in Win95. But, if you do see it in DOS calibrations it is more likely a dirty pot. ProPanel can be found at: ftp://208.129.210.78/pub/library/propanel.exe -- **************************** Michael E. Carver ************************* Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

If you are having problems with Steering control for CART Precision Racing go to The APEX http://www.quiknet.com/~joja/ There are several instructions on how to improve the steering feel of the game especially using a wheel. In addition there are several setups available for download that will greatly enhance the feel and speed of your car. Thanks John

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>>When I'm using the T2, it doesn't seem like there is any null zone >>with the wheel centered. >>It is difficult for me to keep the car in a straight line. >>I'm constantly making minor corrections, often leading to >>overcorrection. It makes it difficult to set up for the corners. >>Anyone else experiencing this? >Sort of like Test Drive - Offroad? >Man does that product have a steering problem! >-- >Best Wishes!!! >Robert Huggins >Raleigh, NC

Why do get the sneaking feeling that MS/CPR went to Thrustmaster (200k pots + card) for advice about racecar controllers.....! I use mil spec 100k pots (standard j/stick values) in my custom built (GP1) wheel and pedals.....I configure GP2, IndyII and Nascar with no problems......CART will not evan recognise my controller....unless I use the Thustmaster option in the configure menu list. This of course will not calibrate correctly because it is expecting 200k pots.....I have heard a trick is to put a 50k resistor in series with the Joystick one 'Y axis', but this is just a cop-out for lousy programming! I will persevere......will report back after fitting the 50k resistor. Dave Hawnt (UK) > **************************** Michael E. Carver > ************************* > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < > ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=