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Yet another 3d card question.

9 posts by 6 people · 05 Dec 1997 - 10 Dec 1997

Ciccon 05 Dec 1997#385683
I know that there are a lot of 3d card questions asked in this group and it's supposed to be an autosim group but you guys are the most knowledgable because you use these things for the same thing I do....racing. I have heard a lot of people say they have both a Rendition board and a 3dFX. How does that work? I have a screamin 3d card, but my monitor plugs right into it. If I wanted to have both would that mean I would have to reconnect my monitor to the correct card and change the system settings every time I wanted to use a different card? Or can the 3dFX run alongside the Rendition board? Just a query. Maybe someone can answer. Thanks.
Neil Yeatma 06 Dec 1997#385855
Quoted text (9 lines)> I know that there are a lot of 3d card questions asked in this group and > it's supposed to be an autosim group but you guys are the most knowledgable > because you use these things for the same thing I do....racing. > I have heard a lot of people say they have both a Rendition board and a > 3dFX. How does that work? I have a screamin 3d card, but my monitor plugs > right into it. If I wanted to have both would that mean I would have to > reconnect my monitor to the correct card and change the system settings > every time I wanted to use a different card? Or can the 3dFX run alongside > the Rendition board? Just a query. Maybe someone can answer. Thanks.
When you install a 3Dfx into your system, you will unplug your monitor from the Rendition and plug it into the 3Dfx card. You will have a short connector to plug into the output of the Rendition card that you will then plug into the input of the 3Dfx card. This functions as a pass-thru so the Rendition will output to your monitor when the 3Dfx is not in use. The only requirement is that you have a free PCI slot, preferably beside the one you have your existing card plugged into. -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
Ciccon 06 Dec 1997#385856
Thanks Neil. Does this connector come with the 3Dfx card or do you have to buy it separately. And is there a certain kind of 3dFX that does that or are they all like this. >When you install a 3Dfx into your system, you will unplug your monitor >from the Rendition and plug it into the 3Dfx card. You will have a >short connector to plug into the output of the Rendition card that >you will then plug into the input of the 3Dfx card.
There are all like that and they come with it. -- <<Phoenix>> >Thanks Neil. Does this connector come with the 3Dfx card or do you have to >buy it separately. And is there a certain kind of 3dFX that does that or >are they all like this. >>When you install a 3Dfx into your system, you will unplug your monitor >>from the Rendition and plug it into the 3Dfx card. You will have a >>short connector to plug into the output of the Rendition card that >>you will then plug into the input of the 3Dfx card.
Kevin Hill 06 Dec 1997#385858
A side note about the 3dfx card - I am very, very, very, very picky about the quality of my monitor and the signal that gets to the monitor. I go nuts if the screen is the slightest bit fuzzy. I have a Matrox Millennium card with the Diamond Monster 3D card. Don't get me wrong, the Diamond card is great. Best damn thing that I have purchased for game performance ever. however, the Diamond 3D card does, slightly, but noticably cause my monitor to get just a bit out of focus. When I run my monitor direct from my Matrox, everything is crisp. But, when I run the Matrox through the Diamond 3d, and then to the monitor, everything is just slightly blurry. Now, most people will not notice the change - but, if you are picky, you might want to think about this a bit. Kevin > I know that there are a lot of 3d card questions asked in this group and
Quoted text (8 lines)>it's supposed to be an autosim group but you guys are the most knowledgable >because you use these things for the same thing I do....racing. > I have heard a lot of people say they have both a Rendition board and a >3dFX. How does that work? I have a screamin 3d card, but my monitor plugs >right into it. If I wanted to have both would that mean I would have to >reconnect my monitor to the correct card and change the system settings >every time I wanted to use a different card? Or can the 3dFX run alongside >the Rendition board? Just a query. Maybe someone can answer. Thanks.
Neil Yeatma 07 Dec 1997#385983
> Thanks Neil. Does this connector come with the 3Dfx card or do you have to > buy it separately. And is there a certain kind of 3dFX that does that or > are they all like this. Yes the cable comes with the 3Dfx card. To the best of my knowledge all the cards work the same way (and I'm sure I'll be *quickly* corrected if I'm wrong!). The only difference is likely to be the quality of the cable. I recall seeing some posts about certain manufacturers having put better quality cables in later releases of their product. -- Neil Yeatman Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
Quoted text (23 lines)> > I know that there are a lot of 3d card questions asked in this group and > > it's supposed to be an autosim group but you guys are the most knowledgable > > because you use these things for the same thing I do....racing. > > I have heard a lot of people say they have both a Rendition board and a > > 3dFX. How does that work? I have a screamin 3d card, but my monitor plugs > > right into it. If I wanted to have both would that mean I would have to > > reconnect my monitor to the correct card and change the system settings > > every time I wanted to use a different card? Or can the 3dFX run alongside > > the Rendition board? Just a query. Maybe someone can answer. Thanks. > When you install a 3Dfx into your system, you will unplug your monitor > from the Rendition and plug it into the 3Dfx card. You will have a > short connector to plug into the output of the Rendition card that > you will then plug into the input of the 3Dfx card. This functions > as a pass-thru so the Rendition will output to your monitor when the > 3Dfx is not in use. > The only requirement is that you have a free PCI slot, preferably > beside the one you have your existing card plugged into. > -- > Neil Yeatman > Ajax, Ontario, CANADA
How does he choose between the 3Dfx and the rendition 3D though? -- The All-Mighty Lord HOSHUMUNGUS WE, are BORG. YOU, will be ASSIMILATED (if your worthy). RESISTANCE, is FUTILE.
Nathan Wong 10 Dec 1997#386479
If the game doesn't support 3Dfx, it won't select the 3Dfx card. 3Dfx games work with GLIDE, and if they don't find it in the directory, it cannot enable 3Dfx acceleration. Most people will hear an audible "click" as the computer switches to the add-on board. This combo would let you run Rendition accelerated games and 3Dfx. But if it supports both, then 3Dfx would be the wise choice everytime
Nathan Wong 10 Dec 1997#386480
Quoted text (12 lines)>A side note about the 3dfx card - I am very, very, very, very picky about >the quality of my monitor and the signal that gets to the monitor. I go >nuts if the screen is the slightest bit fuzzy. >I have a Matrox Millennium card with the Diamond Monster 3D card. Don't get >me wrong, the Diamond card is great. Best damn thing that I have purchased >for game performance ever. however, the Diamond 3D card does, slightly, but >noticably cause my monitor to get just a bit out of focus. When I run my >monitor direct from my Matrox, everything is crisp. But, when I run the >Matrox through the Diamond 3d, and then to the monitor, everything is just >slightly blurry. Now, most people will not notice the change - but, if you >are picky, you might want to think about this a bit.
Image degradation from running the pass-thru cable. If you can, try sourcing a better quality cable to sharpen the picture. It's an unfortunate side-effect of running the pass-thru..

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