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Why is TOCA so lame??

5 posts by 5 people · 19 Dec 1997 - 22 Dec 1997

I've just been out and bought TOCA. What a letdown. Had a quick go on the Playstation version - excellent fun, just a bit hard to control because it's a digital controller. So I thought I'll go get the PC version. Bad move. First problem - it says on the box that it supports almost every "3d card" on the planet. Well I might, but it makes *** all difference unless you have a PII-300 to back it up. I threw TOCA at my RageII and it coughed - I've seen better frame rates on Revs (BBC Micro). If I had a P90 then I wouldn't be surprised - but an 6x86 200? So I decided to go splash out on an 3dfx... OK, I concede it makes some difference, but I would have expected more from one of the best 3d cards on the market. For example, everytime I approach the pit entrance at Donington it goes into Jerkovision, as soon as I go past it's fine. What's going on? The other huge problem is Codemasters have programmed in 2 joystick modes, Playstationalike Digital, and Realistic Wheel Analog. What about all the analog joystick owners out there? In digital mode I can't get round the corners properly, and in analog mode I can't get the blasted car to go in a straight line. Is it too much to ask to program the blasted software properly? I've e-mailed Codemasters, and in 5 days absolutely nothing. I think it's time to exercise the Electronics Boutique 10 day exchange policy and wait for TOCA2. John Roberts
I have a P133 with a 3Dfx card. I don't have the full version, but the TOCA demo runs very smooth in medium resolution with full detail on my computer. No problems at all. You have a 6x86? That could be the problem. I know of some people who have 6x86s, and although their computers should be able to run TOCA and F1RS at a very nice speed, they don't, and people who have slower computers (but Pentiums) that run the games just fine. -- Please remove nospam from address when replying via e-mail.
Just tried TOCA on my fathers 6X86 P166 and its frame rate makes it unplayable, I appears you may need a Intel equipped machine to get the best from this game. My Intel Classic P200 (3DFX) runs lovely and smooth with full res and detail its an A1 game, my only gripe is the lack of replays .
Quoted text (10 lines)>I have a P133 with a 3Dfx card. I don't have the full version, but the >TOCA demo runs very smooth in medium resolution with full detail on >my computer. No problems at all. >You have a 6x86? That could be the problem. I know of some people >who have 6x86s, and although their computers should be able to run >TOCA and F1RS at a very nice speed, they don't, and people who >have slower computers (but Pentiums) that run the games just fine. >-- >Please remove nospam from address when replying via e-mail.
Doug Bur 21 Dec 1997#388605
Quoted text (29 lines)> I've just been out and bought TOCA. What a letdown. Had a quick go on > the Playstation version - excellent fun, just a bit hard to control > because it's a digital controller. > So I thought I'll go get the PC version. Bad move. First problem - it > says on the box that it supports almost every "3d card" on the planet. > Well I might, but it makes *** all difference unless you have a > PII-300 to back it up. I threw TOCA at my RageII and it coughed - I've > seen better frame rates on Revs (BBC Micro). If I had a P90 then I > wouldn't be surprised - but an 6x86 200? So I decided to go splash out > on an 3dfx... > OK, I concede it makes some difference, but I would have expected more > from one of the best 3d cards on the market. For example, everytime I > approach the pit entrance at Donington it goes into Jerkovision, as soon > as I go past it's fine. What's going on? > The other huge problem is Codemasters have programmed in 2 joystick > modes, Playstationalike Digital, and Realistic Wheel Analog. What about > all the analog joystick owners out there? In digital mode I can't get > round the corners properly, and in analog mode I can't get the blasted > car to go in a straight line. Is it too much to ask to program the > blasted software properly? > I've e-mailed Codemasters, and in 5 days absolutely nothing. I think > it's time to exercise the Electronics Boutique 10 day exchange policy > and wait for TOCA2. > John Roberts
It's your Cyrix chip --- try it on a Intel p150 or above ... let us know that you think.
Michael Kol 22 Dec 1997#388735
Runs absolutely smoothly with my PentiumPro oc'd 233 MHz and Orchid Righteous 3D. Every detail set to the highest, with every view. Must be one of your settings (did you set to hardware acceleration?). If I bypass the 3dfx-card the frame rate decreases to unplayability... --- Michael Kolar from Vienna, the Heart of Europe ---

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