Yamaha sound card / NROS

If you are a member of TEN and the NROS, your Yamaha sound card joystick port will probably not align properly making your car undrivable online. Regardless of how your OPL -XX works fine with everything else People will tell you to go buy a thrustmaster ACM card for your joystick or wheel which will probably be the best solution. Interesting coincidence that your system setup that worked fine before the patch suddenly isn't good enough at about the same time Sierra and thrustmaster joined forces with their drivers ed game ....... ooooppps i mean sim. Not too many developers take away compatability of a product. As i'm sure u know, Papyrus is more or less part of Sierra. If u have a Yamaha sound controler and are thinking of Joining TEN/NROS i reccomend u wait until these problems r fixed or be prepared to pay another 50$ for the ACM card. I'm sure Thrustmaster is all upset at the potential revenue this could bring them. I'm sure TEN will rush to fix it !

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>If you are a member of TEN and the NROS, your Yamaha sound card joystick >port will probably not align properly making your car undrivable online. >Regardless of how your OPL -XX works fine with everything else People >will tell you to go buy a thrustmaster ACM card for your joystick or >wheel which will probably be the best solution. > Interesting coincidence that your system setup that worked fine >before the patch suddenly isn't good enough at about the same time >Sierra and thrustmaster joined forces with their drivers ed game ....... >ooooppps i mean sim. Not too many developers take away compatability of >a product. As i'm sure u know, Papyrus is more or less part of Sierra. >If u have a Yamaha sound controler and are thinking of Joining TEN/NROS >i reccomend u wait until these problems r fixed or be prepared to pay >another 50$ for the ACM card. >I'm sure Thrustmaster is all upset at the potential revenue this could >bring them. I'm sure TEN will rush to fix it !

I have the Yamaha card and had to buy the ACM card. before the update everything was fine but I heard numerous people complaining about there calibration trouble. The update seemed to have fixed most everyone's calibration trouble, but hurt the owners of the Yamaha card. I feel it is unfortunate that they released a bug that cost us $40. but whets best for all of us,is not always whats best for one person. So quit complaining about the $40. and if you want to race buy the card. There are so many people out there spending allot more just to get a stable connection.I feel fortunate that my only problem was the game port. -- Kevin Anderson ICQ # 6769389 >If you are a member of TEN and the NROS, your Yamaha sound card joystick >port will probably not align properly making your car undrivable online. >Regardless of how your OPL -XX works fine with everything else People >will tell you to go buy a thrustmaster ACM card for your joystick or >wheel which will probably be the best solution. > Interesting coincidence that your system setup that worked fine >before the patch suddenly isn't good enough at about the same time >Sierra and thrustmaster joined forces with their drivers ed game ....... >ooooppps i mean sim. Not too many developers take away compatability of >a product. As i'm sure u know, Papyrus is more or less part of Sierra. >If u have a Yamaha sound controler and are thinking of Joining TEN/NROS >i reccomend u wait until these problems r fixed or be prepared to pay >another 50$ for the ACM card. >I'm sure Thrustmaster is all upset at the potential revenue this could >bring them. I'm sure TEN will rush to fix it !

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> I have the Yamaha card and had to buy the ACM card. before the update > everything was fine but I heard numerous people complaining about there > calibration trouble. The update seemed to have fixed most everyone's > calibration trouble, but hurt the owners of the Yamaha card. I feel it is > unfortunate that they released a bug that cost us $40. but whets best for > all of us,is not always whats best for one person. So quit complaining about > the $40. and if you want to race buy the card. There are so many people out > there spending allot more just to get a stable connection.I feel fortunate > that my only problem was the game port. > -- > Kevin Anderson > ICQ # 6769389

Kevin, i think your being too nice to TEN as a consumer, Buisness has to learn that their livelihood is customer driven (read demmings principles of management) not management driven. Its interesting to see the parallels between TEN and NROS and microsoft. We have all been conditioned to think if it's broken it's my problem and i have to pay to fix it. If you bought a new car would you have the same opinion ? Bottom line is you pay for a service, you should expect service.

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It seems to be when you combine Yamaha cards with HP computers. thats when the trouble starts. -- Kevin Anderson ICQ # 6769389 >I have a Yamaha OPL sound card and use it's joystick port with my >Thrustmaster T2 wheel and have had NO problems with NROS on >TEN. Calibration is just fine for me online. My car is definitely >driveable with this setup! >Please, don't make such generalized statements and bash Papyrus and >TEN unless you have your facts straight. It may be a particular OPL >sound card that's the problem, I don't know, but it certainly isn't all >of them!