GP2 and CPU Occupancy

I remember reading a thread awhile ago referring to Processor occupancy in GP2. A lot of people were griping about frame rates, and reporting COs of 140, 160, etc. I just checked mine at Hockenheim, with a full field, and all textures except the sky on, in SVGA. The highest CO I saw was 86.I don't exactly have a screamer of a machine(166MMX, 32 MB EDO, Stealth II, cheap ass motherboard) so why is the CO so low on my system? Just wondering if anyone had an idea.... Scott Moore

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> I remember reading a thread awhile ago referring to Processor occupancy in > GP2. A lot of people were griping about frame rates, and reporting COs of > 140, 160, etc. > I just checked mine at Hockenheim, with a full field, and all textures > except the sky on, in SVGA. The highest CO I saw was 86.I don't exactly have > a screamer of a machine(166MMX, 32 MB EDO, Stealth II, cheap ass > motherboard) so why is the CO so low on my system? > Just wondering if anyone had an idea.... > Scott Moore

Do you have SVGA turned on? Have you manually set the frame rate to a low number or is the automatically selected frame rate low? CO is not absolute but depends on the frame rate. Let us know your frame rate and what CO you get at Monaco at the race start. Keith.

On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:05:28 -0500, "Scott Moore" >I remember reading a thread awhile ago referring to Processor occupancy in >GP2. A lot of people were griping about frame rates, and reporting COs of >140, 160, etc. I like seeing how high I can get the occupancy:) Get lots of tyre smoke going etc... then check the occupancy from outside. My records 350%:) --- The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny

beat 800% on a 486/50 with everything on. :) jon

Check your fps setting. You might get that reading with 16-19 fps, I'm getting about 100 with almost everything on except sky with my 210MHz MMX 32MB DIMM. Diamond Stealth (968).

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> I remember reading a thread awhile ago referring to Processor occupancy in > GP2. A lot of people were griping about frame rates, and reporting COs of > 140, 160, etc. > I just checked mine at Hockenheim, with a full field, and all textures > except the sky on, in SVGA. The highest CO I saw was 86.I don't exactly have > a screamer of a machine(166MMX, 32 MB EDO, Stealth II, cheap ass > motherboard) so why is the CO so low on my system? > Just wondering if anyone had an idea.... > Scott Moore

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WOW! I`m guessing that was SVGA mode too? Impressive:) I remember on my old 386/sx33 getting 400% CO on F1GP. (You had to do it when the screen was fading in.) --- The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny

On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:41:25 -0000, "Jonathan Hills"

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>>I like seeing how high I can get the occupancy:) Get lots of tyre >>smoke going etc... then check the occupancy from outside. My records >>350%:) >beat 800% on a 486/50 with everything on. :) >jon

I've seen it on much the same machine go to 1000% and start again from 0% LOL. Took 3 real life minutes to get the red lights to come on . :) To do this you have to _force_ it to run 25fps with all graphics on... This was the worst 30 pounds I have spent, it's a pity I look to the above to try to fool myself this counts as "entertainment value". Thanks, Jon Guest :-) - http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6746/ "Although this world is a crazy ride, You just take your seat and just hold on tight"

If GP2 is the most important thing, then concentrate totally on processor power. Videocard doesn't change a whole lot. 2Mb vs.4Mb even less (=nothing at all). Probably better wait for the 100 Mhz bus and 350 Mhz PII if you want 25fps all and everywhere with all details, though... JoH Please remove *anti-spam* from the email when replying. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= When everything else failed, we can still become im- mortal by making an enormous blunder.... John Kenneth Galbraith =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>If you think that a K6 is faster than a PII, read the true benchmarks in >games as posted at sites like Tom's hardware (www.tomshardware.com). You >will soon see that in games, the K6 is not even the equal of a Pentium. While I'm inclined to agree with you, I think the point is still open to debate. I wish someone would close the issue by reporting Occupancies with both cpus on otherwise the same system (geez, I'd almost consider buying both just to do this and end the issue!). And if someone has these two CPU's, please test a whole bunch of flight sims too :-) Anyway, unless Tom's site has some new info, I gather you mostly refer to the superior performance of the Intel on Quake, Quake II, and perhaps Forsaken(?). I don't think it is a given that you can extrapolate this to mean that it works better on GP2, or many other titles. OTOH, you also see people respond: "the Intel is superior in Quake and Quake-like games only". I don't see how they conclude this unless privy to a whole lot of info that I haven't seen. Obviously, one can't conclude it from the info above. From the few reports I've seen from people claiming to have tried the MMX and the K6 on an otherwise same system, yes, it does seem like the AMD benches better in many tests, but the Intel is superior in many games' performance. Still, I'd like to see hard data (on games OTHER than Quake-like please!!).

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>> I wanted to get some input on buying a new machine. I will want to play >GP2 >> plus standard PC use. I am debating between AMD K-6 233 or Pentium 233 >or >> Pentium II 233 or even spending a bit more for Pentium II 266. A few >people >> said get the AMD K-6 with 64 MB of RAM because the K-6 is faster that a >> Pentium II 266. Also does anyone know if AMD is planning a chip faster >than >> their 233. Finally, does 2 mb versus 4 mb of video RAM make a difference >or >> 64-bit card versus 128-bit card. Thanks for the input.

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> >> I wanted to get some input on buying a new machine. I will want t > o play > >GP2 > >> plus standard PC use. I am debating between AMD K-6 233 or Penti > um 233 > >or > >> Pentium II 233 or even spending a bit more for Pentium II 266. A > few > >people > >> said get the AMD K-6 with 64 MB of RAM because the K-6 is faster > that a > >> Pentium II 266. Also does anyone know if AMD is planning a chip f > aster > >than > >> their 233. Finally, does 2 mb versus 4 mb of video RAM make a di > fference > >or > >> 64-bit card versus 128-bit card. Thanks for the input.

Get a K6 166 (or 200) and overclock it to 233 (or 225 is even faster?) and get the same or better performance than a p200 (on most things, except Quake......yawn!). I have a k6 200 (clocked to 225) and it rocks, and I have had absolutely no probs at all. (GP2, TOCA Touring Cars, RAC Rally & F1RS fly on it too) 8?) *Peter* 8-)

My K6 200 is as fast or faster than the Intel 200s here in the buildng. The PII will outrun a socket7 chip of the same mhz because of AGP and FPU. Just as Tom says, if you don't play Quake the FPU doesn't matter much. I play Quake every once in awhile and it still doesn't matter much. The K6 runs Quake great. Period. My point: the PII is superior. The K6 is $100s cheaper. The K6 is superior to the Pentium because of price and L1 cache. motley

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>> >> I wanted to get some input on buying a new machine. I will want t >> o play >> >GP2 >> >> plus standard PC use. I am debating between AMD K-6 233 or Penti >> um 233 >> >or >> >> Pentium II 233 or even spending a bit more for Pentium II 266. A >> few >> >people >> >> said get the AMD K-6 with 64 MB of RAM because the K-6 is faster >> that a >> >> Pentium II 266. Also does anyone know if AMD is planning a chip f >> aster >> >than >> >> their 233. Finally, does 2 mb versus 4 mb of video RAM make a di >> fference >> >or >> >> 64-bit card versus 128-bit card. Thanks for the input. >Get a K6 166 (or 200) and overclock it to 233 (or 225 is even faster?) >and get the same or better performance than a p200 (on most things, >except Quake......yawn!). >I have a k6 200 (clocked to 225) and it rocks, and I have had >absolutely no probs at all. (GP2, TOCA Touring Cars, RAC Rally & F1RS >fly on it too) >8?) >*Peter* 8-)