GP2 98carset

Don`t bother,I just spent lots of time downloading carset,editors,new tracks,to see what Gp2 was like(after playing F1RS for 5 months)and it is a big disapointment.not in the same league as F1rs at all. Better wait for Gp3,untill then I will keep playing F1rs,its awesome. Simon.

> Don`t bother,I just spent lots of time downloading carset,editors,new > tracks,to see what Gp2 was like(after playing F1RS for 5 months)and it is a > big disapointment.not in the same league as F1rs at all. > Better wait for Gp3,untill then I will keep playing F1rs,its awesome. The graphics may not be as flashy, and there are no weather options, but in all other respects, I think GP2 wins hands down. BTW - I've downloaded the 98 carset for GP2 and the cars seem trickier to drive, more prone to spin. Is this just my imagination or is it actually the case? Huw -- Note: Mail to the above address will bounce. Please reply to:

> ,I just spent lots of time downloading carset,editors,new > tracks,to see what Gp2 was like(after playing F1RS for 5 months)and > it is a > big disapointment.not in the same league as F1rs at all. > Better wait for Gp3,untill then I will keep playing F1rs,its > awesome. Constructive criticsm please....... Why was it a big disappointment? Why is it not in the same league? Agreed....f1rs is awesome. But IMHO, GP2 is also *awesome* in it's own way. Sure it doesn't have 3D card support (but it was produced *before* 3D cards made a big impact?) It's menus are better than f1rs (faster and in a more logical and user friendly layout?). I think the driving models of *both* are very good, maybe even the best until GPL came along (I know GPL simulates a different era!) and are pretty close, but GP2 *just* edges it for me, no real reason for this except it *feels* better to drive? Sure GP2 doesn't have weather, but the sound *is* better (IMO?) even though you cannot hear the other cars. Some people say the tracks are more accurate in f1rs, others say they are more accurate in GP2? I think they are both accurate enough for me. F1RS has ghost laps which are fantastic, but GP2 has hotlaps which can be saved (in practice sessions) which is also cool. FIRS has better (although not perfect?) multiplayer options, but GP2 has better/more control configuration options (and the option for a clutch). I think if any simulation fan wants the best F1 Sim, they should ultimately have *both* as they each have good and bad points. I too am eagerly awaiting GP3..... 8?) *Peter* 8-)

I have played both and must say I prefer GP2 as the more 'playable' game, but the graphics are far superior on F1RS. If GP3 ever actually makes the shopfloor and has the graphical content of F1RS it would be a hell of a game surely. The driveability of F1rs is very difficult and takes some mastering I am sure, I have not mastered it yet but will keep on persevering. They are both very good games in their own right. Gary Young >Don`t bother,I just spent lots of time downloading carset,editors,new >tracks,to see what Gp2 was like(after playing F1RS for 5 months)and it is a >big disapointment.not in the same league as F1rs at all. >Better wait for Gp3,untill then I will keep playing F1rs,its awesome. >Simon.

Another point to you. If you are like me, whose main computer is a notebook, even with a very fast one like mine (AMD K6-233MMX), don't even think about F1RS. The D3D version is so slow that you can't use. But GP2 is lighting fast, never over 80% of CPU usage. For the track themselves, thanks to Paul Hoad's track editor, we can now have any track from any year. With the proper carset (Pieter's of course), you can have very different games. We now have a very good Cart 98 carset, and most of the tracks are appearing, so, in a very short time, it will be an interesting CART simulator also. Roberto

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>> ,I just spent lots of time downloading carset,editors,new >> tracks,to see what Gp2 was like(after playing F1RS for 5 months)and >> it is a >> big disapointment.not in the same league as F1rs at all. >> Better wait for Gp3,untill then I will keep playing F1rs,its >> awesome. >Constructive criticsm please....... >Why was it a big disappointment? >Why is it not in the same league? >Agreed....f1rs is awesome. >But IMHO, GP2 is also *awesome* in it's own way. >Sure it doesn't have 3D card support (but it was produced *before* 3D >cards made a big impact?) >It's menus are better than f1rs (faster and in a more logical and >user friendly layout?). >I think the driving models of *both* are very good, maybe even the >best until GPL came along (I know GPL simulates a different era!) and >are pretty close, but GP2 *just* edges it for me, no real reason for >this except it *feels* better to drive? >Sure GP2 doesn't have weather, but the sound *is* better (IMO?) even >though you cannot hear the other cars. >Some people say the tracks are more accurate in f1rs, others say they >are more accurate in GP2? I think they are both accurate enough for >me. >F1RS has ghost laps which are fantastic, but GP2 has hotlaps which >can be saved (in practice sessions) which is also cool. >FIRS has better (although not perfect?) multiplayer options, but GP2 >has better/more control configuration options (and the option for a >clutch). >I think if any simulation fan wants the best F1 Sim, they should >ultimately have *both* as they each have good and bad points. I too >am eagerly awaiting GP3..... >8?) >*Peter* 8-)

> whose main computer is a notebook, > even with a very fast one like mine (AMD K6-233MMX), don't even > think about > F1RS. The D3D version is so slow that you can't use. But GP2 is > lighting > fast, never over 80% of CPU usage. Well I have a K6 200(clocked to 225) and drove f1rs in D3d for a while, until I bought a 3DFx card, and it ran quite well on my system, (Midi tower based system with 64Mb SDRam, *not* a laptop?) Whereas, GP2 runs fine also on my system, but I probably average around the 90% mark with occasional spikes around and just over 100%, *not* always below 80%, but hey, who wants to split hairs? And I would be *very* surprised if your system *never* went over 80% in gp2, in svga, with all detail on, at 25fps, at monaco? (also this is a whole other area that has been discussed *many* times before?) Though it obviously depends on how each system is set-up? 8?) *Peter* 8-)

You can't put a 3DFX on a notebook. And, for CPU usage, as most people do, turn off sky textures. Of course, Monaco and the new Brazil98 gets over it sometimes. Nevertheless, notebook users do not have, if I am not wrong, any solution to a good 3D video board. The new racing games, all uses Windows 95 as its platform. In it, if you don't have a 3D video card (Redition, 3DFX, PowerVR,...) you will not get the felling on the game. Roberto

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>> whose main computer is a notebook, >> even with a very fast one like mine (AMD K6-233MMX), don't even >> think about >> F1RS. The D3D version is so slow that you can't use. But GP2 is >> lighting >> fast, never over 80% of CPU usage. >Well I have a K6 200(clocked to 225) and drove f1rs in D3d for a >while, until I bought a 3DFx card, and it ran quite well on my >system, (Midi tower based system with 64Mb SDRam, *not* a laptop?) >Whereas, GP2 runs fine also on my system, but I probably average >around the 90% mark with occasional spikes around and just over 100%, >*not* always below 80%, but hey, who wants to split hairs? >And I would be *very* surprised if your system *never* went over 80% >in gp2, in svga, with all detail on, at 25fps, at monaco? (also this >is a whole other area that has been discussed *many* times before?) >Though it obviously depends on how each system is set-up? >8?) >*Peter* 8-)

>The graphics may not be as flashy, and there are no weather options, >but in all other respects, I think GP2 wins hands down. GP2 definitly. I downloaded the 98 carsets, and they look great, and it runs great on my 333 PII. --- John Remove the x to reply.